Considering Going Back to Traditional DH Rules in '24

[DonkeyJote]

Re: Considering Going Back to Traditional DH Rules in '24

If they make it so Ohtani is only a position player in the rosters, I'll honestly be pretty peeved. That just completely screws up anything after year 1 in Franchise. And it makes no sense to do; there aren't pre-existing injuries in Franchise, so Shane McLanahan is available to pitch but Ohtani isn't? It solves a problem for a pretty small amount of players and creates a problem for a larger group.

In real life I prefer pitchers to other players but damn if I wish they had taken their turn at bat as seriously as Ohtani does.

I don't think it's really a matter of taking it "seriously", personally. I think it's largely a matter of talent. There were absolutely pitchers who put no effort into hitting and were terrible. But there were pitchers who took it seriously and still weren't really great. Tom Glavine won 4 Silver Sluggers, and always seemed to take pride in his hitting, and he had a career .454 ops. There is a guy named Reggie Crawford in the Giants system who was a two-way player, including exclusively playing 1B in the AFL last year. And after having just a .600 OPS across the AFL, Single-A, and High-A last year is pivoting to focusing on pitching (though he's still going to take BP, he's not going to play 1B or DH anymore).

Even 100 years ago, pitchers had just a .519 OPS league wide, with the next lowest position being Shortstops at .680.

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[WillieB1214]

Re: Considering Going Back to Traditional DH Rules in '24

Honestly, my plan would be to just pretend Ohtani didn’t get hurt if it messes something up where he can’t pitch after year 1. Assuming we can work around it, I’ll import his pitching attributes from 23 if he’s listed as a position player and just roll as if he was pitching in 24.

[0blong00]

Re: Considering Going Back to Traditional DH Rules in '24

If they make it so Ohtani is only a position player in the rosters, I'll honestly be pretty peeved. That just completely screws up anything after year 1 in Franchise. And it makes no sense to do; there aren't pre-existing injuries in Franchise, so Shane McLanahan is available to pitch but Ohtani isn't? It solves a problem for a pretty small amount of players and creates a problem for a larger group.



I don't think it's really a matter of taking it "seriously", personally. I think it's largely a matter of talent. There were absolutely pitchers who put no effort into hitting and were terrible. But there were pitchers who took it seriously and still weren't really great. Tom Glavine won 4 Silver Sluggers, and always seemed to take pride in his hitting, and he had a career .454 ops. There is a guy named Reggie Crawford in the Giants system who was a two-way player, including exclusively playing 1B in the AFL last year. And after having just a .600 OPS across the AFL, Single-A, and High-A last year is pivoting to focusing on pitching (though he's still going to take BP, he's not going to play 1B or DH anymore).

Even 100 years ago, pitchers had just a .519 OPS league wide, with the next lowest position being Shortstops at .680.

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What you say about Ohtani and pre existing injuries is exactly why I plan to just jump into my franchise with the day one rosters. Once I load up the game it’s a different universe. Some guys didn’t get hurt. Some guys may not be signed. In the Dodgers case, I’m guessing Ohtani going to be 100% but they’re not going to have Yamamoto so it’s a wash.


I also think what you say about pitchers and hitting is pretty accurate. I’d just add that it’s really hard to hit a baseball at the major league level. Most people can’t do it even when it’s their primary focus in life. Same goes for pitching. So everyone for the last 100+ years with the exception of Ohtani has had to make the choice to focus on one.

[countryboy]

Re: Considering Going Back to Traditional DH Rules in '24

Less than a day until release, and I'm still debating whether to stick with modern DH rules, or go back to traditional.

Decisions, decisions.

[LegendKillerOne]

Re: Considering Going Back to Traditional DH Rules in '24

Less than a day until release, and I'm still debating whether to stick with modern DH rules, or go back to traditional.

Decisions, decisions.

Look forward to reading the stories you write in the 24 franchise thread. Hope I can stick with a Met one long enough to provide one myself.

[MikeAK79]

Re: Considering Going Back to Traditional DH Rules in '24

I've debated it but I also want to follow the league rules so if the MLB has it in place than so will I.

[Ghost Of The Year]

Re: Considering Going Back to Traditional DH Rules in '24

Less than a day until release, and I'm still debating whether to stick with modern DH rules, or go back to traditional.

Decisions, decisions.

Flip a coin, and if you dont like the results... best 2 out of 3!

[tgreer]

Re: Considering Going Back to Traditional DH Rules in '24

Do you guys think SB will be up just like in real MLB since they are incorporating bigger bases into the game or do you think it will remain similar?

[Ghost Of The Year]

Re: Considering Going Back to Traditional DH Rules in '24

Do you guys think SB will be up just like in real MLB since they are incorporating bigger bases into the game or do you think it will remain similar?

I think if they go up (and I tend to lean they will rise), they will go up because of the limited amounts you can make pickoffs. I usually only want lefties in my bullpen but this year I feel I'm going to need two lefty starters and a lefty long relief reliever.

[LowerWolf]

Re: Considering Going Back to Traditional DH Rules in '24

My last lengthy franchise was on 21 with traditional rules. I definitely enjoyed the strategy. One of the seasons, I had Ozuna in LF, Acuna in CF and Joc in RF. I'd often double switch late in games, put Kiermaier in CF, slide Acuna to RF and Joc to LF. That was fun. And making trades to fortify the bench because you actually needed pinch hitters was fun too.

Having pitchers come up in RBI spots - for me or the CPU - wasn't as much fun. And I do worry about CPU roster management with traditional rules. Ozuna is pretty worthless to the Braves in a non-DH world. I'm sure other NL teams have similar situations.

I do hope Ohtani is two-way in the base roster. I play injuries off, so he's fully healthy in my universe. I want him pitching and hitting.

Since I played 21 with traditional rules, I'm going to go universal DH for 24. I will miss some of the strategy though.

[countryboy]

Re: Considering Going Back to Traditional DH Rules in '24

I stuck with the modern rules. The way that rosters are constructed now and with the addition of prospects in game potentially being 2 way players, I decided to roll with the rules currently in place.