Errors

[DonkeyJote]

Re: Errors

In years past maybe. This year seems to be tied more to fielder reaction from what I’ve seen. If you keep fielder reaction at 5 you will still see plenty of great infield plays. I have infield errors at 8 and see tons of great defensive plays.

I bumped up fielding errors and started seeing every dive result in a ball bouncing off the glove. Reaction helps them get to the ball, but the fielding errors slider still seems to determine how often they execute the play on the dive. In my experience, anyway.

EDIT: I went into Custom Practice and tried different settings, and now I'm not convinced either slider makes a difference on dives. If they do, it's either very slight, or something about Custom Practice breaks things.

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[MiracleMet718]

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Is this just this year? I switched to button accuracy awhile ago because I felt I didn’t have enough errors with regular button throw.

[DonkeyJote]

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Is this just this year? I switched to button accuracy awhile ago because I felt I didn’t have enough errors with regular button throw.

Yeah, it's new this year. Was getting more the first couple weeks too. I actually switched to buttons from button accuracy because it gave me more throwing errors. Iirc, I actually didn't even have throwing errors maxed out last year because there ended up being too many throws from 3B on double play attempts sailing into RF.

I did finally see an offline throw today, but it was the 1B throwing to 2B (didn't count as an error, since they still got the out at 1B). Kinda seems like a bug that's just preventing offline throws to 1B for me (whether that be errors or picks by the 1B). I still see offline throws in the OF and from the C occasionally. But never from 2B/3B/SS.

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[kaptainkarl76]

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Would it be too much to ask for a throw to home..be to home? Half the time they chuck way off line like they're aiming for the dugouts!

[DarthRambo]

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Should I have fielding errors at 10 as well or only throwing ?

I leave fielding errors at 5. I had them at 8 this year for a good while and noticed no difference. In fact I think at 5 I had more fielding errors lol. IMO, it's completely random and has nothing to do with the actual fielding attribute. I think the fielding attribute determines errors in simulated games, but nothing for games played. The reaction attribute is the one that is noticeable in the game, especially for OF.

Years past as DJ said, raising IF fielding errors would only increase bobbled grounders but not errors. This year it doesn't seem to do that thankfully at least. But still doesn't actually do what it says.

Would it be too much to ask for a throw to home..be to home? Half the time they chuck way off line like they're aiming for the dugouts!

Always so annoying that this game has professional outfielders throwing way off line at least 90% of the time when throwing home.

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[tc020791]

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I leave fielding errors at 5. I had them at 8 this year for a good while and noticed no difference. In fact I think at 5 I had more fielding errors lol. IMO, it's completely random and has nothing to do with the actual fielding attribute. I think the fielding attribute determines errors in simulated games, but nothing for games played. The reaction attribute is the one that is noticeable in the game, especially for OF.

Years past as DJ said, raising IF fielding errors would only increase bobbled grounders but not errors. This year it doesn't seem to do that thankfully at least. But still doesn't actually do what it says.

Always so annoying that this game has professional outfielders throwing way off line at least 90% of the time when throwing home.

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I disagree with this. I see way more misplays in the infield from defenders with lower fielding rating. If a great fielder dives for a ball they usually make the play. If an average fielder dives for a ball they usually can only knock it down. Same with throwing errors. I almost never see throwing errors from my SS (70+ accuracy). Yet I’ve seen a handful from my 3B (Under 60 arm accuracy).

[DonkeyJote]

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I disagree with this. I see way more misplays in the infield from defenders with lower fielding rating. If a great fielder dives for a ball they usually make the play. If an average fielder dives for a ball they usually can only knock it down. Same with throwing errors. I almost never see throwing errors from my SS (70+ accuracy). Yet I’ve seen a handful from my 3B (Under 60 arm accuracy).

I agree. I cranked IF Fielding Errors up to 10 a few games ago, and have definitely seen an uptick on errors. I'm still not really getting errors or picks on any IF throws to 1B (one exception being I got a bad throw animation after the fielder also mishandled the groundball).

It's still not ideal, but it's better than it had been. And I've still seen a couple nice dives with errors at 10.

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[StonewallTexan]

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So are we ready to call the lack of errors on throws to 1B a genuine bug?

[FluffyTonka]

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i'm yet to see an outfield error or dropped catch of any kind.

i raised outfield errors, and all i'm seeing is players taking bad routes, and diving for balls they have no hope of tracking down. so poor outfield play, but no actual errors.

anyone else?

[DonkeyJote]

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So are we ready to call the lack of errors on throws to 1B a genuine bug?

I've been able to get some bad throws to 1B since bumping fielding errors up too, but still not off anything resembling a normal ground ball. Got one with the 2B booting the ball first, and then a bad throw off the recovery. I got one wide throw that was called an error (but shouldn't have been) when the SS made a diving stop and then threw from the seat of his pants wide (no one advanced, so would have been a hit irl, but a wide throw is still a wide throw). Another was on a double play turn with the runner right on the 2B, and the last was when I took a wide turn around 1B on a single to the OF, and the 2B decided to throw to 1B and it went high.

I think I've seen one pick by a 1B, and that was off a diving play/throw from the knees as well. I personally think it's a bug; the animations do exist, you can trigger them if you're using button accuracy. They just don't seem to happen if you're using buttons (or for the CPU).

i'm yet to see an outfield error or dropped catch of any kind.

i raised outfield errors, and all i'm seeing is players taking bad routes, and diving for balls they have no hope of tracking down. so poor outfield play, but no actual errors.

anyone else?

I've seen 1 this year. Though, tbh, that's more than I've seen IRL this year. Dropped flyballs are pretty rare. I haven't seen any balls under the glove or anything either though. Tbh, I don't even remember if that's an animation in The Show or if I'm thinking of the old 2k games.

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[glenn77901]

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I have played 18 gms in my Rangers franchise and have yet to see an error from either my team or the cpu team. i'm playing on HOF for both hitting and fielding. Have Fielding errors maxed on Inf and OF, as well as Inf throwing. Have OF throwing E @ 5. I have double checked to make sure errror's were turned on, so that's not the issue.

[MiracleMet718]

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So are we ready to call the lack of errors on throws to 1B a genuine bug?

It’s not a bug just because it still works with other throw methods. If I remember correctly, a few years back people that use button throw complained that there were too many errors happening, so they toned it back. I think people were getting annoyed that there wasn’t rhyme or reason for errors, so a super easy grounder to short had the same chance of an error as a difficult moving or diving play.

And since people were losing DD games because of it, they rolled the errors back some.

[DonkeyJote]

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It’s not a bug just because it still works with other throw methods. If I remember correctly, a few years back people that use button throw complained that there were too many errors happening, so they toned it back. I think people were getting annoyed that there wasn’t rhyme or reason for errors, so a super easy grounder to short had the same chance of an error as a difficult moving or diving play.



And since people were losing DD games because of it, they rolled the errors back some.

Animations not triggering with one input could absolutely be a bug. The fact that they happen with the other inputs means it's more likely to be a bug.

And I don't think too many of the most active online players are using button; button accuracy is the default there because of the perfect throws from the OF.

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[MiracleMet718]

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Animations not triggering with one input could absolutely be a bug. The fact that they happen with the other inputs means it's more likely to be a bug.

And I don't think too many of the most active online players are using button; button accuracy is the default there because of the perfect throws from the OF.

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Now it is, but a few years ago there wasn’t the perfect throw option. So I think most people used button. I could be wrong though.

[StonewallTexan]

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It’s not a bug just because it still works with other throw methods.

The button mode was supposed to use the players ratings (arm strength and accuracy, mostly, I guess) to determine the outcome of the throw, so if it is never generating errors in that mode, that would be a bug.

Plus if the CPU never makes throwing errors, that would be a problem/bug for franchise players.