The Takeaway From EA College Football 25

[Heisman]

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I would also say that CFB25 is NOT a game that should be a benchmark in anyway. The game initial presentation and graphics really pop and give you the wow factor. After a few games with the same team you get the same entrance shots. No pregame highlighting top players to watch. No Studio Updates cut scenes just a quick Kevin Connors voice over bottom line ticket, which errors often. The over 100 hours advertised of commentators is utter BS. The Fowler/Kirk broadcast is straight trash. The Rece/Palmer/Pollock team isnt great but average. Gameplay is just ok, nothing to shine on about its decent, but nothing stellar.

Dynasty mode is so barebones it's pathetic for a game that was a 4+ year creation. No immersion at all. Can't play/watch other games within your Dynasty Universe. No way to check on other College Coaches to see whos on the hotseat or coordinators having good years... it has the Coach Carousel but not being able to look at those coaches throughout the season it's just a throw-in to the process. Extremely limited Dynasty Top Stories so little immersion into the overall season other than just your team. A bunch of glitches of conference realignment and the CFB Playoff is an utter disaster of teams making it that have no business being there.

Recruiting is solid start, but needs a tutorial to teach you how to properly work through the various items. Like the fact that your points when in season is not a weekly points to use its the full season use.

I can't speak to UT or Road to Glory as it's not a mode I play.

I think the SHOW is always solid, needs to get more immersion with depth from a yearly archive season and long run career modes, but i'll take the solid SHOW over CFB25 any day.

You are able to watch other games and see what coaches are on the hot seat.. Yea immersion could be a little better, but you don’t need a million little bells and whistles to enjoy dynasty.

[bronxbombers21325]

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I would also say that CFB25 is NOT a game that should be a benchmark in anyway. The game initial presentation and graphics really pop and give you the wow factor. After a few games with the same team you get the same entrance shots. No pregame highlighting top players to watch. No Studio Updates cut scenes just a quick Kevin Connors voice over bottom line ticket, which errors often. The over 100 hours advertised of commentators is utter BS. The Fowler/Kirk broadcast is straight trash. The Rece/Palmer/Pollock team isnt great but average. Gameplay is just ok, nothing to shine on about its decent, but nothing stellar.

Dynasty mode is so barebones it's pathetic for a game that was a 4+ year creation. No immersion at all. Can't play/watch other games within your Dynasty Universe. No way to check on other College Coaches to see whos on the hotseat or coordinators having good years... it has the Coach Carousel but not being able to look at those coaches throughout the season it's just a throw-in to the process. Extremely limited Dynasty Top Stories so little immersion into the overall season other than just your team. A bunch of glitches of conference realignment and the CFB Playoff is an utter disaster of teams making it that have no business being there.

Recruiting is solid start, but needs a tutorial to teach you how to properly work through the various items. Like the fact that your points when in season is not a weekly points to use its the full season use.

I can't speak to UT or Road to Glory as it's not a mode I play.

I think the SHOW is always solid, needs to get more immersion with depth from a yearly archive season and long run career modes, but i'll take the solid SHOW over CFB25 any day.

Maybe it's just me but I don't find the graphics to be all that overwhelming.

[JSK1979]

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What are some of the issues in CFB25 you think will not be fixed this year?

I think not allowing player editing was a design choice. Maybe it was also in the contracts they signed with the players. If so, it seems disingenuous that they didn't express that in the dynasty breakdown. I dont see that returning, but i truly hope it does. I think editing numbers will make it in, though. Also, to my knowledge, none of the content creators that got their hands on the game before the early release window said anything about this.

Sim stats are an absolute mess and something EA has had an issue with in their football titles for years, I don't think that will get fixed.

Transfer portal and recruiting logic likely won't get fixed.

Custom conferences and schedules from conference realignment won't get fixed for a while because it will likely break something else if they do (no idea if that's true).

I think the ranking system, simmed game results (W-L not sim stats) and, coaching carousel will get fixed.

I hope that I'm wrong and they fix all of these things but I'm not optimistic. I mean as much as the game isn't a Madden re-skin it does have some of the absolute worst elements of Madden...1) CFM - this is the worst idea for franchise implementation in the history of sports games and CFB 25 essentially uses the same style interface for offline dynasty for adding more teams to the dynasty (create or add new character). 2) For many years now, the dev team has decided that we shouldn't have the option to control the playcall frequency between running and passing, the carry/touch split between RBs, designate who's the primary passing target and simply remove playbook from the style of play in simmed games. CFB 25 has this same issue, it ties to the sim stat issue. When I see that Ohio State has 2 of the very few 90+ rated RBs in the game and neither of them get 1000yds all because of playbook and poor sim engine that's just crazy. The fact that the 2nd back in EA football games has been coded to basically just be short yardage - touchdown vultures or receiving backs that only get targets when you play them or slow sim the games. These are immersion breakers in my opinion.

Sorry for the rant, I know it's just a game, but the game released with a lot of issues.

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[Johnny_Montesinos]

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I'm a Baseball guy all the way, I have 628 hours played in the show thus-far, & will continue to play it right up until the Show 25 comes out. I have bought & been playing College Football 25 Road to Glory mode as a running back with ARMY, and I will say I'm having allot of fun, I still prefer the Show, but I do enjoy the change of College Football even though I don't follow football like I did decades ago.

[M112Eagle]

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EA doesn't belong in the same sentence as SDS. MLB the Show has been the best sports title for a very long time now. I have CFB 25 and it's okay, but has a lot of issues that need to be fixed. Hell, I'm still enjoying The Show '23 with my Reds franchise, haven't even bought '24 yet.

Almost every time I play a game in the Show, there's something new that I notice that wows me.

[Feros Ferio 7]

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I would also say that CFB25 is NOT a game that should be a benchmark in anyway. The game initial presentation and graphics really pop and give you the wow factor. After a few games with the same team you get the same entrance shots. No pregame highlighting top players to watch. No Studio Updates cut scenes just a quick Kevin Connors voice over bottom line ticket, which errors often. The over 100 hours advertised of commentators is utter BS. The Fowler/Kirk broadcast is straight trash. The Rece/Palmer/Pollock team isnt great but average. Gameplay is just ok, nothing to shine on about its decent, but nothing stellar.

Dynasty mode is so barebones it's pathetic for a game that was a 4+ year creation. No immersion at all. Can't play/watch other games within your Dynasty Universe. No way to check on other College Coaches to see whos on the hotseat or coordinators having good years... it has the Coach Carousel but not being able to look at those coaches throughout the season it's just a throw-in to the process. Extremely limited Dynasty Top Stories so little immersion into the overall season other than just your team. A bunch of glitches of conference realignment and the CFB Playoff is an utter disaster of teams making it that have no business being there.

Recruiting is solid start, but needs a tutorial to teach you how to properly work through the various items. Like the fact that your points when in season is not a weekly points to use its the full season use.

I can't speak to UT or Road to Glory as it's not a mode I play.

I think the SHOW is always solid, needs to get more immersion with depth from a yearly archive season and long run career modes, but i'll take the solid SHOW over CFB25 any day.

Most of this is factually incorrect.

You can play and watch other games.

Your recruiting points ard for each week.

The gameplay is one of the best ever for a football game. Could it be improved? Yes, obviously. And that answer will always be yes to any game. But each game is very different and you have differing play styles and types and the AI actually adjusts to how you play so you have to adapt.

I may be in the minority but all the presentation stuff is always gonna be limited. They're all cut scenes and I absolutely hate cut scenes in a video game. They get old real quick.

Also the CFP standings aren't that far off with what will happen in real life. The top 12 teams won't make and the CFP committee will screw over teams with better records for teams they feel are more deserving. They've already done that multiple times. Could there be improvement in it? Yes, as it will never be perfect.

The Show is an awesome game and I love it and I've largely been a pro sports gamer but I've recently been pulled away from pro sports games beacaue I can outsmart the AI on the roster construction front. The Show is awesome and one of the best games I've ever played but the roster construction need major improvements.


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[jcar0725]

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Most of this is factually incorrect.

You can play and watch other games.

Your recruiting points ard for each week.

The gameplay is one of the best ever for a football game. Could it be improved? Yes, obviously. And that answer will always be yes to any game. But each game is very different and you have differing play styles and types and the AI actually adjusts to how you play so you have to adapt.

I may be in the minority but all the presentation stuff is always gonna be limited. They're all cut scenes and I absolutely hate cut scenes in a video game. They get old real quick.

Also the CFP standings aren't that far off with what will happen in real life. The top 12 teams won't make and the CFP committee will screw over teams with better records for teams they feel are more deserving. They've already done that multiple times. Could there be improvement in it? Yes, as it will never be perfect.

The Show is an awesome game and I love it and I've largely been a pro sports gamer but I've recently been pulled away from pro sports games beacaue I can outsmart the AI on the roster construction front. The Show is awesome and one of the best games I've ever played but the roster construction need major improvements.


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I just want to add that with 30 team control with the show, you can make sure every team's roster is constructed as such, to make it much more challenging for the user controlled team. As far as I know, no other sports game lets you make sure all the other rosters are at their peak performance.

Yeah if you want to, you can totally outsmart the AI. But you can also play the game as a real challenge if you want to.

[Feros Ferio 7]

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I just want to add that with 30 team control with the show, you can make sure every team's roster is constructed as such, to make it much more challenging for the user controlled team. As far as I know, no other sports game lets you make sure all the other rosters are at their peak performance.



Yeah if you want to, you can totally outsmart the AI. But you can also play the game as a real challenge if you want to.

And I'm glad they have that as option for people to use but for whatever reason it's never appealed to me.

Madden added a trade difficulty slider and it worked for individual trades but the whole picture just isn't there.

I just have a hard time getting into me controlling every team. I prefer variance in roster construction and priority.


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[jcar0725]

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And I'm glad they have that as option for people to use but for whatever reason it's never appealed to me.

Madden added a trade difficulty slider and it worked for individual trades but the whole picture just isn't there.

I just have a hard time getting into me controlling every team. I prefer variance in roster construction and priority.


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Yeah I hear ya. I don't control everything with my 30 team control. It would be too time consuming. But I can make minor cpu adjustments here and there to make sure the cpu roster/lineups are functioning properly to make sure I'm getting the best challenge I can get. It's not for everyone though. Just nice to have options.

[M112Eagle]

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Yeah I hear ya. I don't control everything with my 30 team control. It would be too time consuming. But I can make minor cpu adjustments here and there to make sure the cpu roster/lineups are functioning properly to make sure I'm getting the best challenge I can get. It's not for everyone though. Just nice to have options.

I go as far as making sure my opponents batting order is proper before every game in my franchise. Yes, it takes extra time, but the ability just to do that is another reason why I love this game.

[bryanm1982]

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Another big thing they need to update is the clock management. They still have the winning team be aggressive with a big lead at the end of the game.

I have been just watching CPU vs CPU games and in the championship, Notre Dame had the ball at their own 30-yard line with 20 seconds left in the first half. They were up 13-0. It was 3rd and 20 and I thought the defense would call a timeout. But they didn't because Notre Dame did. They called time out so they can go for it on 4th and 20. They got sacked and fumbled and Georgia recovered. Next play was a 30-yard touchdown to make the game 13-7 and then Georgia had all the momentum after that.

[IndianSummer]

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Is ncaa25 what everyone calls next gen graphics?
I see the team entrances look good but when it comes down to gameplay it really didn’t look much different than the Show to my old eyes.
I actually like both games but I am a baseball guy at heart.

[PhlliesPhan6]

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Is ncaa25 what everyone calls next gen graphics?
I see the team entrances look good but when it comes down to gameplay it really didn’t look much different than the Show to my old eyes.
I actually like both games but I am a baseball guy at heart.

This is kind of how I felt about it. Everyone was kind of hyping it like "wait and see what next gen can do on a game being built from the ground up". And the graphics are just kind of ok. Not much different from Madden to me.

[JSK1979]

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I just want to add that with 30 team control with the show, you can make sure every team's roster is constructed as such, to make it much more challenging for the user controlled team. As far as I know, no other sports game lets you make sure all the other rosters are at their peak performance.

Yeah if you want to, you can totally outsmart the AI. But you can also play the game as a real challenge if you want to.

Actual Madden and NBA 2K allow you to control every team as well. Madden still has a bunch of issues due to the programming insistence of tying sim results to playbook.

However, NBA 2k is much more meticulous when it comes to what can be controlled in 30 team control. I just don't understand why so many MLB The Show fans keep saying that this is the best sports title on the market (im not specifically talking about you). Maybe they are considering the game as a whole because NBA 2Ks online modes are a cesspool of predatory MTX. However, I think I'm talking to offline franchise players here, and The Show just has a way to go to catch up to NBA 2K.

Yes, you can set all of the lineups and rotations for each team, but when you sim games and look at box scores, you'll see the lineup changed. The biggest problem with the game is its antiquated rating system that's horribly weighted and produces odd results in the case of some players.

I enjoy the game because I'm a baseball fan, ot be cause the game is great...in my opinion. I find it entertaining, infuriating, enjoyable, and annoying all at the same time. All and all it is missing so much or not delivering on what it's trying to do and some of the issues have been around forever.

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[countryboy]

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Actual Madden and NBA 2K allow you to control every team as well. Madden still has a bunch of issues due to the programming insistence of tying sim results to playbook.

However, NBA 2k is much more meticulous when it comes to what can be controlled in 30 team control. I just don't understand why so many MLB The Show fans keep saying that this is the best sports title on the market (im not specifically talking about you). Maybe they are considering the game as a whole because NBA 2Ks online modes are a cesspool of predatory MTX. However, I think I'm talking to offline franchise players here, and The Show just has a way to go to catch up to NBA 2K.

Yes, you can set all of the lineups and rotations for each team, but when you sim games and look at box scores, you'll see the lineup changed. The biggest problem with the game is its antiquated rating system that's horribly weighted and produces odd results in the case of some players.

I enjoy the game because I'm a baseball fan, ot be cause the game is great...in my opinion. I find it entertaining, infuriating, enjoyable, and annoying all at the same time. All and all it is missing so much or not delivering on what it's trying to do and some of the issues have been around forever.

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Probably because in their opinion it is.