Has anyone seen the CPU make a 2nd pickoff attempt during the same AB?

[countryboy]

I was curious if anyone has seen the CPU make a 2nd pickoff attempt in the same AB? In all the games I've played, I don't recall the CPU ever throwing over twice in the same AB. They will throw over once and have one disengagement/pickoff attempt left, but they never use it.

It makes getting a jump on stealing a base easier since you can take the extra step lead, and unless the pitcher slide steps, pitches out, or the runner is extremely slow, the chances of a successful steal are heavily in the runner's favor.

Just curious as to what others have experienced.

[The Gamer]

Re: Has anyone seen the CPU make a 2nd pickoff attempt during the same AB?

I have not. That or the ability to replay challenge close plays after any other except the close play at first. Especially when the same close play at first happens on a double play. Both situations seem to be cosmetic add on's that occur randomly

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[jcar0725]

Re: Has anyone seen the CPU make a 2nd pickoff attempt during the same AB?

I use auto baserunning, but have only seen one throw over from the cpu. Never a second throw.

[countryboy]

Re: Has anyone seen the CPU make a 2nd pickoff attempt during the same AB?

I have not. That or the ability to replay challenge close plays after any other except the close play at first. Especially when the same close play at first happens on a double play. Both situations seem to be cosmetic add on's that occur randomly

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I've only seen a replay on a close play at first during a double play attempt, and it happened fairly recently (current season I'm in). The result was an overturned call to out and it presented a weird glitch where the batter had a (-1) for hits. His stat line was -1 for 3. It didn't effect team stats, nor his personal stats, just a UI glitch.

[tessl]

Re: Has anyone seen the CPU make a 2nd pickoff attempt during the same AB?

In manage mode yes. I've seen it many times. This in in MLBTS23. I don't own 24.

[countryboy]

Re: Has anyone seen the CPU make a 2nd pickoff attempt during the same AB?

In manage mode yes. I've seen it many times. This in in MLBTS23. I don't own 24.

Yeah this is in reference to '24 with the new disengagement rules being in place

[SmashMan]

Re: Has anyone seen the CPU make a 2nd pickoff attempt during the same AB?

Once, yeah. I wish I remembered the circumstances or saved a video but this was months ago. I was taking an extra lead (because I had never seen a second throw over and had a runner with average speed on) and the pitcher threw over a second time and got me.

Never saw it before, never saw it again. Can’t explain why or how beyond that.

[MannybeingManny]

Re: Has anyone seen the CPU make a 2nd pickoff attempt during the same AB?

I have but only when I take a huge lead. I might lead the league in runners picked off lol . Despite only picking two off with my pitching staff in the 200 plus games I’ve played this year.

[bcruise]

Re: Has anyone seen the CPU make a 2nd pickoff attempt during the same AB?

Only when a first attempt has already happened and the player takes a lead of more than two steps (which is begging to be picked off under normal circumstances). Either it results in a pickoff/rundown or a bad throw to first.

And yeah, it's related to the practical application of the new disengagement rule. CPU will just never willingly put itself in the situation of the third pickoff.

Kind of a lame way to go about it, but without ratings/tendencies for this kind of situation idk if there's much they could have done. Wishlist thing for future games for sure.

[Cod]

Re: Has anyone seen the CPU make a 2nd pickoff attempt during the same AB?

I've seen it a small number of times, but all of those were at second base and when taking more more than a single extended lead (hitting L1 two+ times). I've never seen a third attempt.

[countryboy]

Re: Has anyone seen the CPU make a 2nd pickoff attempt during the same AB?

Only when a first attempt has already happened and the player takes a lead of more than two steps (which is begging to be picked off under normal circumstances). Either it results in a pickoff/rundown or a bad throw to first.

And yeah, it's related to the practical application of the new disengagement rule. CPU will just never willingly put itself in the situation of the third pickoff.

Kind of a lame way to go about it, but without ratings/tendencies for this kind of situation idk if there's much they could have done. Wishlist thing for future games for sure.

Yeah the pickoff system really needs attention. I hate how the default lead is an easy return to base standing up instead of being a step and dive back. Also hate that you can successfully steal bases with the default lead.

Wish they would change the default to be a step and dive back. Then the user can adjust from there, either taking another step for a bigger lead or shortening the lead to a stand up return to base.

They also need to figure a way to implement ratings or quirks or something that helps expand upon what is fairly bland system. Allow pitchers to at times take the risk of making a 3rd pickoff attempt. Have there be a chance, while slight, of a catcher snap throw picking off a runner.

This area of the gameplay to me is easily the weakest and most in need of attention going forward.

[Cod]

Re: Has anyone seen the CPU make a 2nd pickoff attempt during the same AB?

Yeah the pickoff system really needs attention. I hate how the default lead is an easy return to base standing up instead of being a step and dive back. Also hate that you can successfully steal bases with the default lead.

Wish they would change the default to be a step and dive back. Then the user can adjust from there, either taking another step for a bigger lead or shortening the lead to a stand up return to base.

They also need to figure a way to implement ratings or quirks or something that helps expand upon what is fairly bland system. Allow pitchers to at times take the risk of making a 3rd pickoff attempt. Have there be a chance, while slight, of a catcher snap throw picking off a runner.

This area of the gameplay to me is easily the weakest and most in need of attention going forward.

From a design standpoint, I really like how PYS approached this problem back in the 2011 time frame with iterations throughout the years. Here's how it works:

• You cannot change lead sizes
• Your player takes off as soon as you hit the advance button
• When you take off, you get an S to G rating (S,A,B,C,D,E,F,G)
• Then it's all about your runner's speed (again S to G)

I like this system because the leads are automated (faster players take slightly bigger leads, etc.) and your jump accounts for ~70% of stolen base success. Speed is also a big part. For example, if I get the best jump with a player having B+ (S,A,B) speed, there's a very good chance of success. Catcher arm strength also plays a role. You can see how all these pieces build on each other to make a complete sequence with various results.

Again, I really think this system works well and makes it a challenge because if you just go on first move, you'll be picked off by good pitchers. It also makes executing hit and runs more difficult because right after hitting advance you have to be ready to hit within a split second. Playing last night, I got a "good" jump (B or C can't remember) with an S-tier speed guy and was thrown out.

The downside is that I've never seen a successful pick off when the runner did not jump. There's also not any sliding creativity to avoid tags (slide to outside, etc.) on pick off or stolen base attempts.

Sorry for the long post. Happy to answer any questions!