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  • LastActionHero
    MVP
    • Feb 2009
    • 2453

    #1

    What’s the deal with quick counts?

    Will they ever switch back to how it was? I believe they used to deduct 1 pitch to the pitch count every generated quick count..? Did they ever say why they changed that approach to where it is now where we get ridiculous high pitch counts early in the game?

    Also in my experience the generated quick count is 1-1 like 70% of the time. It has gotten to a point that I’m not even looking at the starting count anymore because it’s probably 1-1 anyway ��
    Last edited by LastActionHero; 12-31-2024, 06:55 AM.
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  • KnightTemplar
    MVP
    • Feb 2017
    • 3282

    #2
    Re: What’s the deal with quick counts?

    Originally posted by LastActionHero
    Will they ever switch back to how it was? I believe they used to add 1 pitch to the pitch count every generated quick count..? Did they ever say why they changed that approach to where it is now where we get ridiculous high pitch counts early in the game?

    Also in my experience the generated quick count is 1-1 like 70% of the time. It has gotten to a point that I’m not even looking at the starting count anymore because it’s probably 1-1 anyway 🤨
    Been that way since last year. I don’t know why they messed with a good thing.
    I have to say, tho, I really enjoy the game more since not using it. Doesn’t really add that much more time.

    We wanted it, got it, worked great then someone stepped in and messed it up. Hopefully it’s fixed in 25.

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    • seamus95
      Rookie
      • Feb 2003
      • 53

      #3
      Re: What’s the deal with quick counts?

      Originally posted by KnightTemplar
      Been that way since last year. I don’t know why they messed with a good thing.
      I have to say, tho, I really enjoy the game more since not using it. Doesn’t really add that much more time.

      We wanted it, got it, worked great then someone stepped in and messed it up. Hopefully it’s fixed in 25.
      agree, not deducting 1 pitch per batter really has messed with pitch counts/fatigue. Would also like to see more count variety in QC. I.E. 0-1, 1-0, 0-0, 3-0, 0-2, as well. Or an option to turn it on/off during the game.

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      • kinsmen7
        MVP
        • Mar 2016
        • 1661

        #4
        Re: What’s the deal with quick counts?

        Originally posted by seamus95
        agree, not deducting 1 pitch per batter really has messed with pitch counts/fatigue. Would also like to see more count variety in QC. I.E. 0-1, 1-0, 0-0, 3-0, 0-2, as well. Or an option to turn it on/off during the game.
        This times 1000.

        I enjoy quick counts because it helps (IMO) balance out the check swing issue that I find in offline. I'm also a bit too aggressive, so it helps me get a bit deeper into counts, and around 20th in the league in walk rate, which would be virtually non-existent for me without it.

        The fact that every count starts at least 1-1 is kinda "meh" IMO, and makes it virtually impossible for either starter to ever make it deep into a game.

        The one thing that I'd worry about is that the game doesn't seem to adjust for first pitch on QC vs. without, so I'm not sure how I'd actually feel if someone tossed an accidental meatball 0-2, and I was still hitting weak contact on it.

        Ramble-y thoughts...
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        • baconbits11
          MVP
          • Oct 2014
          • 2597

          #5
          Re: What’s the deal with quick counts?

          Even All Star Baseball 2005 had a better QC system. You could set ANY count, hitter friendly, pitcher friendly or RANDOM. Random included ALL possible counts including 0-0.

          The way THE Show has it, you can never have the possibility of a 1 pitch at bat.

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          • TheBrew101
            Rookie
            • Mar 2003
            • 308

            #6
            Re: What’s the deal with quick counts?

            I really wish at minimum they just bring it back to how it was pre MLB23. The old way worked fine.

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