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  • ltw0303cavs
    MVP
    • Sep 2006
    • 1052

    #16
    Re: MLB The SHOW Players Attributes Discussion.

    Yeah its been this way with default rosters since Covid and they cant use one year development as an excuse why these rosters are not cleaned up. Also the 3 year average has been replaced with recency bias, just look at Victor Robles. Yes he barely got caught stealing but 99 steal ability ? lol RHH rating ? that is recency

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    • kinsmen7
      MVP
      • Mar 2016
      • 1661

      #17
      Re: MLB The SHOW Players Attributes Discussion.

      Just wanting to ask a couple of questions here, and not meaning to stir any pots, or upset anyone...asking out of pure curiosity so that I can see it from a different perspective.

      I get that it could be an issue for online guys, but if you're an offline player (like most of OS is), why settle for the default roster?

      And, if you see something that you think is unreasonable (ie. Bello's durability), why not just edit it? I mean, even if you're already rolling with your franchise, the game gives you the option to edit a player at any point.
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      • Jeffrey Smith
        MVP
        • Apr 2014
        • 1925

        #18
        Re: MLB The SHOW Players Attributes Discussion.

        Originally posted by kinsmen7
        Just wanting to ask a couple of questions here, and not meaning to stir any pots, or upset anyone...asking out of pure curiosity so that I can see it from a different perspective.

        I get that it could be an issue for online guys, but if you're an offline player (like most of OS is), why settle for the default roster?

        And, if you see something that you think is unreasonable (ie. Bello's durability), why not just edit it? I mean, even if you're already rolling with your franchise, the game gives you the option to edit a player at any point.
        Personally I’m just too lazy to.lol

        I’m just rolling with my franchise regardless.
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        • Therebelyell626
          MVP
          • Mar 2018
          • 2877

          #19
          Re: MLB The SHOW Players Attributes Discussion.

          Originally posted by ltw0303cavs
          Yeah its been this way with default rosters since Covid and they cant use one year development as an excuse why these rosters are not cleaned up. Also the 3 year average has been replaced with recency bias, just look at Victor Robles. Yes he barely got caught stealing but 99 steal ability ? lol RHH rating ? that is recency
          Yeah, every year a couple of guys benefit from recency bias. I remember a couple of years ago it was Ty France. This year it might be Xavier woods with the marlins. Dude has 90 something for right contact, and 89 for left making home one of the best contact hitters in the game

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          • kinsmen7
            MVP
            • Mar 2016
            • 1661

            #20
            Re: MLB The SHOW Players Attributes Discussion.

            Originally posted by Jeffrey Smith
            Personally I’m just too lazy to.lol

            I’m just rolling with my franchise regardless.
            I'd be a complete liar if I didn't admit to adjusting some of my beloved Jays prospects attributes here and there (I'm not even playing with them and I still did it...).

            In fairness though, I'll adjust a handful of players around the league that are *close* to the majors, but I don't really have to touch much after some of the great roster creators out there put out their product.
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            • Madden08PCgmr
              MVP
              • Feb 2017
              • 2435

              #21
              Re: MLB The SHOW Players Attributes Discussion.

              Yeah its been this way with default rosters since Covid and they cant use one year development as an excuse why these rosters are not cleaned up. Also the 3 year average has been replaced with recency bias, just look at Victor Robles. Yes he barely got caught stealing but 99 steal ability ? lol RHH rating ? that is recency
              79% for his career

              30 for 31 last year (in only 71 games in Seattle)
              57 for 64 (89%) over the last 3 years

              I don't know that I'd give him a 99, but if it was 90, how big of a difference would it make?

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              • Madden08PCgmr
                MVP
                • Feb 2017
                • 2435

                #22
                Re: MLB The SHOW Players Attributes Discussion.

                I would love an explanation as to how the compile defensive ratings.

                Building custom rosters, there doesn't seem to be rhyme or reason.

                putouts, assists, fielding errors, throwing errors.. caught stealing% for catchers.. hard to see a pattern as to how(if?!) any/all that is accounted for.
                You want free speech?
                Let's see you acknowledge a man whose words make your blood boil, advocating at the top of his lungs that which you would spend a lifetime opposing at the top of yours.

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                • Jeffrey Smith
                  MVP
                  • Apr 2014
                  • 1925

                  #23
                  Re: MLB The SHOW Players Attributes Discussion.

                  Originally posted by Madden08PCgmr
                  I would love an explanation as to how the compile defensive ratings.

                  Building custom rosters, there doesn't seem to be rhyme or reason.

                  putouts, assists, fielding errors, throwing errors.. caught stealing% for catchers.. hard to see a pattern as to how(if?!) any/all that is accounted for.
                  I’ve played several games with the Pirates and O’neil Cruz is rough defensively. Feels like with him at least the ratings are pretty accurate.
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                  • Ghost Of The Year
                    Sweet Emotion.
                    • Mar 2014
                    • 6344

                    #24
                    Re: MLB The SHOW Players Attributes Discussion.

                    Originally posted by kinsmen7
                    Just wanting to ask a couple of questions here, and not meaning to stir any pots, or upset anyone...asking out of pure curiosity so that I can see it from a different perspective.

                    I get that it could be an issue for online guys, but if you're an offline player (like most of OS is), why settle for the default roster?

                    And, if you see something that you think is unreasonable (ie. Bello's durability), why not just edit it? I mean, even if you're already rolling with your franchise, the game gives you the option to edit a player at any point.
                    Hundred percent spot on. When others find a huge discrepancy I like to fix it asap. Hence this a personal favorite discussion of mine to hear from others experience.
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                    • ltw0303cavs
                      MVP
                      • Sep 2006
                      • 1052

                      #25
                      Re: MLB The SHOW Players Attributes Discussion.

                      I will say I have standardized stamina, I think Stamina first of all to affect overall on RP makes zero sense to me. And you can say Overall isn't as important..but to CPU depth charts it is. So i'm going to run a Manage Only Franchise with SP-75 and Relievers-25 and ill post my stats at All Star Break. I will say I think SDS has calmed down on prospects ratings which for me is nice to see.

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                      • reyes the roof
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 11524

                        #26
                        Re: MLB The SHOW Players Attributes Discussion.

                        I don't know the difference between vision and discipline, but I feel like Soto should have a higher vision rating than 67 considering he has more walks than Ks in his career. Although it doesn't really matter at the end of the day since my vision and discipline as the guy controlling him is -32

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                        • jcar0725
                          "ADAPT OR DIE"
                          • Aug 2010
                          • 3817

                          #27
                          Re: MLB The SHOW Players Attributes Discussion.

                          Originally posted by reyes the roof
                          I don't know the difference between vision and discipline, but I feel like Soto should have a higher vision rating than 67 considering he has more walks than Ks in his career. Although it doesn't really matter at the end of the day since my vision and discipline as the guy controlling him is -32
                          Vision = the ability to square up the baseball when swinging.

                          Contact = the size of the circle around the ball.

                          Discipline = the ability to lay off balls out of the zone.

                          That's how I've always viewed it.
                          JUUUUUUUST A BIT OUTSIDE

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                          • Ghost Of The Year
                            Sweet Emotion.
                            • Mar 2014
                            • 6344

                            #28
                            Re: MLB The SHOW Players Attributes Discussion.

                            Originally posted by reyes the roof
                            I don't know the difference between vision and discipline, but I feel like Soto should have a higher vision rating than 67 considering he has more walks than Ks in his career. Although it doesn't really matter at the end of the day since my vision and discipline as the guy controlling him is -32
                            One thing I don't like is the three year weighted average. If a player had at least say 350-400 plate appearances in 2024, I wish Sony would rate him solely on those numbers, and not factor at all what happened 2-3 years ago. If a player didn't get a lot of PA's the previous year, then do a 3 year weighted average.

                            EDIT - Also, not a huge difference but I'm seeing Soto with a 70 Vision, not 67.
                            Last edited by Ghost Of The Year; 03-29-2025, 04:12 PM.
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                            • Javieryuphone
                              Just started!
                              • Jul 2024
                              • 3

                              #29
                              Re: MLB The SHOW Players Attributes Discussion.

                              One thing that I would love, although not expecting it are batter/pitcher tendencies. For example, hitter swing/take or pitcher pitch percentage where you can adjust how much the CPU throws a pitch to align with how they pitch IRL

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                              • Ghost Of The Year
                                Sweet Emotion.
                                • Mar 2014
                                • 6344

                                #30
                                Re: MLB The SHOW Players Attributes Discussion.

                                Originally posted by Ghost Of The Year
                                Starting with Red Sox pitcher Brayan Bello. I understand he's had a couple injuies the last couple years but his Durability at 13? Even thru injury, he's managed to pitch nearly 320 innings. I would think at worst he's earned at least a 65. At least.

                                What would you guys have his Durability set to?
                                They finally did right by Bello, gave him a 90 Durability.
                                Last edited by Ghost Of The Year; 04-07-2025, 08:30 PM.
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