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  • #46
    baseballsim
    MVP
    • Jun 2009
    • 1279

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    Just thought about something. This probably won't apply the majority of pitchers but it's worth noting. If you know the BB/9 of the pitcher you are facing it may help with your approach. If the pitcher has a low BB/9 he will get less calls on the black so let those pitches go by.
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    • #47
      Yankee Mystique
      Rookie
      • May 2008
      • 13

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      I usually just lay off of them, and leave it up to the umpire. Sometimes he'll call them strikes and sometimes he won't. It sucks.

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      • #48
        Denzel Washington
        Rookie
        • Mar 2013
        • 406

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        Played some guy with 1800+ rating.

        He kept throwing high fastballs with Sale all damn game. After like 3 innings of him throwing high I left my PCI up and hit back to back homeruns. He calmed down with the high heat. I won the game 7-2

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        • #49
          VowedVengeance
          Banned
          • May 2015
          • 63

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          After dropping from 1880s down to 1650, I've won 15 of my last 17 with the only two losses being DCs. I have zero explanation

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          • #50
            stephens123
            Rookie
            • Jan 2014
            • 48

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            TV's do matter. If you have a nice big screen TV it's going to be alot harder..due to refresh rate etc. This version is stupid...the timing is completely off.....LATE/Early...even when u know youre right on it. I been playing the Show for 3-4 years now...and I feel like this is a completely different experience from previous versions. Even if you sit fastball you are still late.

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            • #51
              jayb_270
              Rookie
              • Apr 2015
              • 257

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              Originally posted by stephens123
              TV's do matter. If you have a nice big screen TV it's going to be alot harder..due to refresh rate etc. This version is stupid...the timing is completely off.....LATE/Early...even when u know youre right on it. I been playing the Show for 3-4 years now...and I feel like this is a completely different experience from previous versions. Even if you sit fastball you are still late.

              This. You can sit fastball and still be late. I tried sitting in the high inside fastball, and even a middle inside fastball and no matter what, I could win. Even If I was a tad early, I pulled the ball down the line well foul. A hair late and either my bat shatters or I pop it up easily in the infield. Sometimes it reaches the outfield going the other way, but still
              It's a routine ball. I break way too many bats in a game to the point where it's frustrating to even play. Even when my timing would say "good" it would turn into an easy fly ball out or still go foul. It's obvious that this is way too OP, as any major leaguer who is sitting on the pitch and looking for it if it's thrown to them a few times in a row would have a good shot of mashing the thing. I hope the devs realize this and do something about it

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              • #52
                cardinalbird5
                MVP
                • Jul 2006
                • 2814

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                Originally posted by MrOldboy
                What view can you use post patch that gives them that advantage.

                I might be in the minority, but I don't have a huge issue with high fastballs. If you have the PCI up there the result is usually a hard hit ball. If you don't it's a popup. If someone tries to abuse the pitch I'll usually start sitting on high fastballs. After two or so home runs they move onto low changeups. These are both effective pitches, its just that in the show it is very hard to lay off of them even when thrown consecutively. Try that with a MLB hitter...
                I am with oldboy. Hitting high pitches are not that hard even when I was hitting on a 40 inch tv. People just refuse to put their PCI up there and swing early...that or just do not have the reflexes. If you cannot hit the high heat then why would your opponent stop throwing it? They aren't going to groove you low curves so you can keep your PCI low and crush it.

                I've also had a few come in my stream and complain about my hitting view lol. I always ask them how is it cheesy? What makes seeing your batter more realistic than my view lol? Nothing realistic about hitting from a behind the umpire perspective.

                And the TV's and monitor debates....I feel like I am the perfect one to ask about this. I use a 40 inch sony Bravia for MLB 09 all the way up to 14. I starting using the BenQ this winter with MLB 14.

                Does it help? Yes, but you can still be a great hitter w/o it. In fact in 14 I found myself rolling over and being super early on everything. It took me awhile to get used to it, but now I have and I think I am a little bit better than what I was in 12.

                I still raked in 12 and 13 online (was #1 in DD in 12 and #3 in 13). I batted over nearly .400 in 13.

                My point is that you can still hit the heat, unless you are on a 90 inch tv or something. You guys might want to try a monitor though. They are less than 200 bucks and very convenient for gaming. It helps for sure, but it won't turn you into a great hitter out of no where. You still need to practice, practice, practice, possess good reflexes, and have a solid approach at the plate.

                I do lab sessions and most of these guys have this same problem. You don't need to hit consistently hit high heat to stop your opponent from throwing it. Trust me...you hit once early on and they will start to mix it up more. Also, you simply do not have to swing. I can almost bet most people cannot throw 3 strikes out of 6 pitches up and inside. it is not that easy to locate. Look for them to hang one middle high, middle in, or just middle. You can hit the middle pitches to oppo with good success as well.

                Oldboy is one of the better hitters too and I know he has to make this constant adjustment as much as I do. You have to show your opponent you can hit it or they will abuse you. Why would they throw anything else?
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                • #53
                  ManiacMatt1782
                  Who? Giroux!
                  • Jul 2006
                  • 3981

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                  If you anticipate it, it's almost an automatic homer. But it is a pitch you have to anticipate. There is no reaction time because you have the least amount of time to swing at that pitch.
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                  • #54
                    baseballsim
                    MVP
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 1279

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                    I think I'm one who just doesn't have the reflexes. And, I DO have a BenQ. Anyways, I tried something last night that gave me some good results. I tried contact hitting and then poked one into the OF for a single.
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                    • #55
                      Dag_BoomStick
                      Rookie
                      • Apr 2015
                      • 317

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                      I try not to give to much high heat when I pitch. I will do it from time to time but I'm always afraid someone will be sitting on that pitch. As far as hitting goes I can get around on it sometimes but if I'm sitting on it its gone. More often then not I tend to foul it off if I'm not sitting on it and that is more or less the only way to combat it. Though my very first at bat using bagwell on the first pitch he ever received for me I got a high inside fast ball from a righty and cleared that out with a no doubter and I wasn't even sitting on that pitch. Might of just got lucky.

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                      • #56
                        FindingTim
                        Rookie
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 386

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                        Originally posted by hotdiggity33
                        leave your PCI there and wait for it. Those are the most satisfying HRs.
                        absolutely. I took Chapman deep with Salvador Perez last night on a 100 mph fastball at the shoulders. I lost the game 11-2 but that single hit made the game feel like a triumph lol

                        on the flip side, with guys like Chapman and Rosenthal, you can have the PCI up in the zone and look fastball, and still be late on the pitch if you aren't 100% focused. And if you look high fastball and they throw you something offspeed, you end up on one knee

                        I sit my zone up and in and adjust accordingly when the pitch comes. Because the high heat requires the quickest swing, I need to start my zone up there. I have time to adjust to lower pitches, but you don't have time to adjust to the high heat.
                        perfectly said. I use the same strategy myself-- aside from select moments where I have a strong inclination a low-and-outside fastball is coming that I'll try to wack it the other way. I'd been using directional hitting for months and switched to 'zone' last week. I think zone is the way to go. You feel a lot more in control of your fate.

                        Originally posted by Biizz713
                        this BS is ridiculous. fastball high inside. curveball in the dirt. repeat. swing at the fastball it's a popup no matter what. don't swing they call strike because the ball grazed the corner of the strike zone. it's trash.
                        Baseball can be frustrating, obviously. But I think this game mirrors real-life very well. For every pitching strategy, there is a viable counter-strategy (except for Pedro Martinez-- there is no counter-strategy for Pedro). If an opponent is using the same pitching patterns to great effect, it's not "BS", it's your inability to adjust.

                        One thing that helps me a lot when I'm struggling is focusing on the ball in the pitchers hand. I mean really trying to watch the ball leave his fingers. The micro-fragment of a second this gains you is invaluable. When I remember to do this, my hitting almost always improves immediately.
                        Last edited by FindingTim; 08-15-2015, 02:08 PM.

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