Is it wrong to try not pitch in the zone .vs human players?

[Chetballard]

I have had no luck in getting legends or cards in packs etc. My team is an 83 or 84 overall. My best player is Rizzo and my highest rated pitcher is 86. So
I have to play smart to win .vs all these dream teams.

To get on topic I am playing teams that are leaps and bounds better than me player wise, but I still win a good amount. I do not have the offense to catch up if i get behind by a great deal, so I try to pitch on the corners of the zone etc. The last few days I have had opponents with team full of legends that I beat. Not all but a fair amount have message me that i cant pitch. I vary my pitches all over the place and I do not always try to nibble the corners.

Basically the messages are the same, with people calling me a jerk because of the way i pitch. I am sorry but am i jerk? I don't see anything wrong with pitching smart. My team era is 2.67 with a 27-27 record so really that's not that good. Those people chose to swing at my pitches, and you can see with my record I am easily beatable.

[Eyecrazy2]

Re: Is it wrong to try not pitch in the zone .vs human players?

Don't worry about if they want meat pitches all game tell them to play on rookie. I throw corners all day. If they cant hit that high fastball I keep pitching it. I sometimes throw a curve and they can hit that offspeed so i go back to throwing the high heat corners. I'm same as you don't have a stack team so I try play smart also a breakeven player .500%

[Gambit1193]

Re: Is it wrong to try not pitch in the zone .vs human players?

Just respond with "Not my fault you can't lay off a changeup in the dirt or high fastball"

[billydkid21]

Re: Is it wrong to try not pitch in the zone .vs human players?

If you're 15-20 pitches per inning, that's kind of lame. No real life pitcher would get away with that and survive the bigs for long. People that pitch this way are abusing the fresh pen.

If you're 5-12ish pitches per inning, doesn't matter what you're throwing. It's their fault for swinging at balls.

You don't need golds to pitch well. Plenty of great silver and bronze SPs. I have a few gold SPs now for fun, but I got myself to 1800+ using silvers, bronzes and even a few commons. I also play with a budget team. My lineup still only has 1 gold. It's a grind when I get above 1750, but that's a lot more fun than winning 10-2.

[baseballsim]

Re: Is it wrong to try not pitch in the zone .vs human players?

I wish there was an easy way to find out everyone's walks per innings pitched so we can compare. I'm sure I probably tend to pitch in the zone too much. Through 130 games played I only have 67 walks!

[frasety]

Re: Is it wrong to try not pitch in the zone .vs human players?

I also had someone message me something similar.. except he paused in the first inning to message me and said throw strikes. I told him it's called pitching, if you don't like it don't play online. He then proceeded to make it a very difficult game for me to play, kept intentionally walking the first batter of the inning so he could constantly throw pick offs. It took 1.5 hours to finish a 6 inning game, luckily i mercied him in the 6th or it could have gone on forever!

I am a free swinger but I don't blame my opponent for it. It's the hitters fault for not laying off those pitches. If I notice someone is throwing a lot out of the zone, I just lay off and work his pitchers so I can get destroyed by their bullpen haha.

[Dag_BoomStick]

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In the end it's their fault not yours. No offense to you but I'd LOVE to play someone like you. If you are gonna nibble at the corners and get me swinging on curves or off speed stuff in the dirt I'll take those pitches and walks. I actually just got a message from a guy that I just played complimenting me on my check swing and that I had a really good eye. I feed on ppl that will try and make me swing at bad pitches. I rather face that then someone that's gonna pound me with strikes all game. When that happens I have a hard time getting the other guys pitcher out bc he's thrown 70 pitches by the 4th. If anything you are doing it right in my opinion. I have never once message a person in spite bc they threw out of the zone a lot. Sooner or later they gotta come in with a pitch and then I can turn on it. Only time I get agrivated is when they pound you with fastballs up and in all game and even sitting on that pitch I'll foul it off or Pop out more often then not. And once they see me swinging at it they will buckle me with a hard change and if I'm lucky then I can check it. Had a guy do this to me last night in a 1-1 game in the 8th until finally teddy ball game got on top of one and hit a 3 run homer to make him rage quit.

[Dag_BoomStick]

Re: Is it wrong to try not pitch in the zone .vs human players?

Just out of curiousity what's your rating bc maybe that could be part of the reason based on the types of ppl your playing. I'm 99-70 with a rating of 1688

[kchuskey]

Re: Is it wrong to try not pitch in the zone .vs human players?

I pitch like I'd pitch in real life. My goal is to get the batter out, and win the game. I could care less who's feelings I'm hurting because they can't hit, or aren't patient. I'm more worried about the knuckleheads that bunt every at bat, or act like they are going to, and do all the other cheesy crap. If you don't see it during a MLB game in real life, then I don't want to see it. And one thing you don't see is pitchers throwing meatballs, because the opponents get in their feelings. If that's the case, then I'll probably be in for a lot of similar messages... Heck that's what baseball is about. Winning the battle at the plate.

[Chetballard]

Re: Is it wrong to try not pitch in the zone .vs human players?

Just out of curiousity what's your rating bc maybe that could be part of the reason based on the types of ppl your playing. I'm 99-70 with a rating of 1688

1486 was above 1500, but seem to hover around there.

[erod550]

Re: Is it wrong to try not pitch in the zone .vs human players?

In the past when there was a lot more lag and you didn't have time to read pitches and basically had to swing as soon as the pitch left the pitchers hand, I can see wanting people to throw more strikes. But the online play is actually very good this year and I have not experienced any lag with reading pitches online. So if they just aren't capable of laying off balls, then keep throwing them. It's their problem, not yours.

[Benz87]

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I absolutely pitch to my opponents weakness, that's baseball. If they show every change-up out of the zone will be chased, i'm throwing that all day. People just get mad they drop $100's on their team(not saying all with stacked teams do) and still cant win because they are center-swingers who can only hit meat pitches.

I feel the fun in this mode is the journey of building your team and then winning while watching statistics develop with the team you've spent so much time building. If others want to drop a bunch of money on an instant "dream team" and then get mad at their opponent because of themselves sucking, that's their bad for dropping money on a game they're not good at.

[Chetballard]

Re: Is it wrong to try not pitch in the zone .vs human players?

Thanks for the replies, I was always curious if I was do something wrong. I am not going to change how I pitch, its baseball. Last night I only had time for 1 game which i won 1-0. The opposing pitcher threw just like I wrote about nibble corners etc, was able to get six hits off him. Its not lag switching, cheap baserunning its just real baseball. I do not think there is one MLB pitcher ever, who thought to him self maybe i should throw more meatballs. I want the other team to have fun too.

As long as you can get 2-2, 3-2 in a count most of the time. I feel you did your job right as a hitter. By the way i have Tony Watson from the pirates and used him in the 8th and 9th last game. The other player also used him vs me and he was nearly impossible to hit for me.

[Wizeguy]

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Great post. I have a stacked team because I wanted to play against other stacked teams and spent way more then I should have because after opening hundreds of packs getting an occasional gold or a silver or two. I never got a Diamond or Legend. So I decided to start to complete sets to get Legends. Now I am not a good online player. I have ZERO plate discipline so I am the one that will swing at obvious balls. It irritates me because I can should be more patient. But I don't blame you guys not wanting to pitch to a stacked team. It's our own fault for swinging at garbage. I have stopped playing online vs opponents and have been playing Extra Innings. I have been having alot of fun with it. But I would rather play someone who throws outside the zone then people who bunt cheese. Because let's be honest there is no real way around that.

[Biizz713]

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If the game is really laggy I have a problem with it because there is no way to tell if something is out of the zone or not.