Newbie tips for Online DD?

[hyacinth1]

Finally took the plunge and tried some online DD games in the Ranked seasons mode. Win or lose I just want to have a good game w/ the other opponent. You know, baseball! In the past I've avoided the mode because like every other ranked online 'ultimate team' its all about winning and you have people who exploit the game.

But since we're in the beginning of the show 20 , the teams i've played are fairly ranked at my level (low 80s) and have similar non-diamond players like I do.

I'm finding out my players that go good offline aren't doing as well online, especially some of the silver players.

I'll try to udpdate to gold players but any tips for online DD? More like what's the best camera angle to use? I think that's a big thing since you need more time to read the pitch. I've used Zoom, Show 15, Retro for offline but are those any good for online? I guess maybe the fisheye is good? what are your thoughts?

Also, I am terrible at Zone hitting so what's better online, directional or analog?

Any other tips appreciated!

[papadell]

Re: Newbie tips for Online DD?

Most competitive players use strike zone for hitting and analogue pitching. I use strike zone 2 personally I like it much more than strike zone. I use meter pitching and always will but pitching is so random it doesn't really matter. Really you just need to find a camera that you like and keep using it to get comfortable. It took me a while to get used to try strike zone views but you really do need them online. Between the wildly varied speeds you'll see and people quick pitching every pitch it's valuable to see the ball as well as possible.

I use fish eye 2 I think for pitching. I switch this view every once in a while but I like this view as I see the runner on first and just like the presentation of the plate.

Directional isn't as easy to use as a lot of people say. So I would recommend analogue hitting instead. I actually REALLY enjoy the feel of analogue but the game is geared towards zone to be competitive so I don't use analogue online. It I end up in had slumps I might experiment with a different view and analogue to get my timing but overall it's easily better than directional. Try them all out though and see what you like the most. This game is all about feel so do what works for you.

The absolute best advice I can give is to try and not get frustrated which is HILARIOUS coming from me but I know I get tilted with this game. Watching the gameplay just be... broken can dishearten even the most well meaning player. This game will piss you off the more you play online because stuff happens that just doesn't make sense. Even in the wild world of baseball.

Having said that you will absolutely read me complain about the game so maybe I'm not the best advice giver [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

[ChaseB]

Re: Newbie tips for Online DD?

Camera is going to be all about what you feel good with, there is no true answer for what to use there online. I would not use directional hitting online though, try to get used to zone or do analog.

[hyacinth1]

Re: Newbie tips for Online DD?

Thanks for the tips. I tried a few and played some real jerk online just now.

He kept trying to take extra bases and I kept throwing him out. For relievers he kept using starters. I didnt know they allowed this online DD to use starters when you have a full bullpen available.

He went up 8-3 on me and thought I would quit but I didnt. I figured out his pitch style where he would always pitch balls in the dirt first two pitches so i didnt swing. then he kept walking me where I took the lead in one inning coming all way way back. I ended up winning 10-9 and it was really sweet.

But at the same time it soured me to online DD again because I want to play an opponent with some kind of baseball IQ. This guy should have easily beat me if he didnt try to take every extra base and try to score from 2nd on a ground out throw to first. Crap like this just bugs me. I would rather lose against a guy who knows how to play the game of baseball than win against a guy like this.

[mikeq672]

Re: Newbie tips for Online DD?

Thanks for the tips. I tried a few and played some real jerk online just now.

He kept trying to take extra bases and I kept throwing him out. For relievers he kept using starters. I didnt know they allowed this online DD to use starters when you have a full bullpen available.

He went up 8-3 on me and thought I would quit but I didnt. I figured out his pitch style where he would always pitch balls in the dirt first two pitches so i didnt swing. then he kept walking me where I took the lead in one inning coming all way way back. I ended up winning 10-9 and it was really sweet.

But at the same time it soured me to online DD again because I want to play an opponent with some kind of baseball IQ. This guy should have easily beat me if he didnt try to take every extra base and try to score from 2nd on a ground out throw to first. Crap like this just bugs me. I would rather lose against a guy who knows how to play the game of baseball than win against a guy like this.

And this is why a lot of us dont play online. Almost every random person you encounter is a massive try hard that plays as if their life depends on them getting a win in the most annoying and moronic way possible

[buziii]

Re: Newbie tips for Online DD?

And this is why a lot of us dont play online. Almost every random person you encounter is a massive try hard that plays as if their life depends on them getting a win in the most annoying and moronic way possible

Ya know...I read this a lot in this forum and other MLBTS forums. I'm not a great player, and don't try to be. I could previously never win online when I tried, but played it more last season. I wound up winning about 50% of my RS games and 40% of Event games.

In my experience, the online jerk idea is a massive exaggeration. I've experienced it, but I bet over 90% of my online competition has not been that way.

Am I just lucky, or is this another online forum exaggeration?

[papadell]

Re: Newbie tips for Online DD?

Both. Slight exaggeration plus luck. I've played every multiplayer game under the sun and have dealt with trolling of every kind.

Somehow this game seems to have the worst kind. Between people pausing for minutes at a time to try and get you to quit, baserunning cheese, people trying to friendly quit glitch you and all kinds of stuff it really does get exhausting. If games weren't 9 innings it might not be as bad but investing 1 hour per game to run into the ridiculous stuff on top of the inconsistent gameplay (at least last year) it ends up being pretty ***

[hyacinth1]

Re: Newbie tips for Online DD?

Ya know...I read this a lot in this forum and other MLBTS forums. I'm not a great player, and don't try to be. I could previously never win online when I tried, but played it more last season. I wound up winning about 50% of my RS games and 40% of Event games.

In my experience, the online jerk idea is a massive exaggeration. I've experienced it, but I bet over 90% of my online competition has not been that way.

Am I just lucky, or is this another online forum exaggeration?

In 19 I did the head to head online. not the DD one, but the one where you play the real clubs. In those games, I would say 90 percent of the opponents were terrific. They managed their teams like a real baseball manager would and most of the games were competitive. And those that were not it was ok because the other opponent wasnt exploiting the game.

I think when it comes to DD and other ultimate team type of games the jerks really come noticeable.

[mikeq672]

Re: Newbie tips for Online DD?

In 19 I did the head to head online. not the DD one, but the one where you play the real clubs. In those games, I would say 90 percent of the opponents were terrific. They managed their teams like a real baseball manager would and most of the games were competitive. And those that were not it was ok because the other opponent wasnt exploiting the game.

I think when it comes to DD and other ultimate team type of games the jerks really come noticeable.

100% correct.

[ChaseB]

Re: Newbie tips for Online DD?

In 19 I did the head to head online. not the DD one, but the one where you play the real clubs. In those games, I would say 90 percent of the opponents were terrific. They managed their teams like a real baseball manager would and most of the games were competitive. And those that were not it was ok because the other opponent wasnt exploiting the game.

I think when it comes to DD and other ultimate team type of games the jerks really come noticeable.

Still depends on the game. In The Show I think this holds up more than in some other sports games. That being said, I don't really run into too many toxic players in The Show.

[JoshC1977]

Re: Newbie tips for Online DD?

Also, I am terrible at Zone hitting so what's better online, directional or analog?

Any other tips appreciated!

I see no reason why you couldn't use directional (if you really understand its nuance). But, you'd have to build your teams to it (i.e. stay away from low vision players like Gallo, Judge, etc.). Directional is going to be tougher to use because you're going to be more reliant on player ratings but if you have a good handle on how it works and what influences to use for each player, you should be fine.

[Metsaholic230]

Re: Newbie tips for Online DD?

Some tips I have...

A. Watch some tips videos on how to hit and pitch. There's tons available and it really does help. (I'm a nerd who has to know all the ins and outs. )

B. Pitching
While this is baseball you have to remember it's a game and some things will be easier for your opponent to do than in real life. If you throw a pitch middle low right on the edge of the zone you will get murdered by a good player. Why? If you slam down the PCI the middle hits right on the zone line. Something to keep in mind...

The most reliable way to pitch is analog. It takes a while to get used to, but once you do you will love how it works and pitch much much better than any other mode. For example if you use meter the meter changes for each pitcher and their windup. It will also change if they go to the stretch (Because the windup changes) This makes it MUCH harder to regularly control what you are doing.

I HIGHLY recommend heading over to gamestop and getting kontrolfreeks. If you put a longer stick on the right stick it makes pitcher so much easier and fun...

I use these and would never go back.

https://www.kontrolfreek.com/products/fps-freek-galaxy

C. Hitting
Zone hitting if you are trying to compete online. Anything else and you will get more random luck. Not saying you can't win or have fun using something else, but you certainly will be at a disadvantage.

What I personally do is cheat slightly up in the middle with the PCI before the pitch. And unless it's two strikes I'm looking for only certain pitches. (Oh I still get chase fever from time to time but I'm getting better). That way you aren't trying to fly around to get the PCI very far.

C. Hitting Camera
It's really personal preference, but I found that strike zone 2 was the best for me. Strike zone is too zoomed in, but a lot of people use it. I found I was swinging at everything with that view.

D. Fielding
Button accuracy for sure... Once you get used to the meter (which changed a bit this year) you will make much less errors than on any other setting.

E. All Star and getting lit up
After finally getting decent at all star online... If you play a good player you will get lit up no matter how well you pitch. It's just too easy for some people to hit at that difficulty. Just keep that in mind when you wonder if you are doing something wrong. Hall of Fame, which I still suck at online starts to get a bit more tactical and they won't hit everything under the sun.

I think my ERA after 160 games online was 3.00. I was super proud of that. I just wish my hitting would come close to that much success. I blame that on being old.

[brunopuntzjones]

Re: Newbie tips for Online DD?

There are definitely a lot of cheesy, annoying players (and dashboarders, the real scum of the virtual earth) in the game. I think Ranked Seasons and Events tend to have the lowest fun factor because of that, while Battle Royale fares a bit better.

My advice is basically to play how you want, figure out which modes you enjoy the most, and stick to them. Also avoid the temptations of the community market and spending extra money on stubs. Use the team you've got and have fun with them without getting caught up in keeping up with the Joneses. You can absolutely beat a team of nothing but 99s while having much lower rated cards if you have some wherewithal.

[hyacinth1]

Re: Newbie tips for Online DD?

There are definitely a lot of cheesy, annoying players (and dashboarders, the real scum of the virtual earth) in the game. I think Ranked Seasons and Events tend to have the lowest fun factor because of that, while Battle Royale fares a bit better.

My advice is basically to play how you want, figure out which modes you enjoy the most, and stick to them. Also avoid the temptations of the community market and spending extra money on stubs. Use the team you've got and have fun with them without getting caught up in keeping up with the Joneses. You can absolutely beat a team of nothing but 99s while having much lower rated cards if you have some wherewithal.

ya i get you on all counts. i sort of have an average squad with a lot of silvers that i like. im getting golds by playing more and more but i really enjoy my silver guys. it's like my own favs and my own team. Sure I should replace guys like Moncada and Anderson w/ golds but I love playing w those guys. I think i'll just stick w them and not fall for putting the best rated players on the squad but my favs instead.

[esdot404]

Re: Newbie tips for Online DD?

Agree. The camera will be a user preference. So move the batting camera around to one that you can read pitches better.

Also, I don’t think this is for everyone, but I kept some hitting and took the PCI off. I only have a few games testing this but I’m having good results hitting-wise. I think having it off let’s me focus more on recognizing the type of pitch/ball/strike and laying off junk.


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