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  • papadell
    MVP
    • Mar 2019
    • 4176

    #16
    Re: MLB The Show 20: The Future Is Bright Event Overview and Tips

    This would be the perfect time to really go all in on a deep variety of single year cards. Then the meta wouldn't need to shift so fast but I'm sure they'll just pump out the fake cards
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    • brunopuntzjones
      Pro
      • Jul 2018
      • 651

      #17
      Re: MLB The Show 20: The Future Is Bright Event Overview and Tips

      Originally posted by Coxatron
      This would be the perfect time to really go all in on a deep variety of single year cards. Then the meta wouldn't need to shift so fast but I'm sure they'll just pump out the fake cards
      Yeah if there's any year to not worry about pushing out multiple all-star, hardware, or postseason versions of the same guys, this is it.

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      • JoshC1977
        All Star
        • Dec 2010
        • 11564

        #18
        Re: MLB The Show 20: The Future Is Bright Event Overview and Tips

        Originally posted by Coxatron
        This would be the perfect time to really go all in on a deep variety of single year cards. Then the meta wouldn't need to shift so fast but I'm sure they'll just pump out the fake cards
        I'd have loved this SO much.....You have the entire pool of the in-game major league players plus the available legends...they could've had some fun with it (imagine like a Rookie Billy Hamilton - elite speed/defense OR a 2014 Jose Abreu).

        Projecting current ratings for prospects is a dubious enough proposition as is...projecting out "best case scenarios" of what they could be (and 99% of whom never will) for THAT many low level minor leaguers is just pure fantasy. You can even look back to past Future Star cards...how many of THOSE guys have even come close to those levels...?
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        • papadell
          MVP
          • Mar 2019
          • 4176

          #19
          Re: MLB The Show 20: The Future Is Bright Event Overview and Tips

          Originally posted by JoshC1977
          I'd have loved this SO much.....You have the entire pool of the in-game major league players plus the available legends...they could've had some fun with it (imagine like a Rookie Billy Hamilton - elite speed/defense OR a 2014 Jose Abreu).



          Projecting current ratings for prospects is a dubious enough proposition as is...projecting out "best case scenarios" of what they could be (and 99% of whom never will) for THAT many low level minor leaguers is just pure fantasy. You can even look back to past Future Star cards...how many of THOSE guys have even come close to those levels...?
          It's one of those things where like - they're a business and they need to do things to make money. Totally cool with that. But I just don't get why THAT is their approach.

          Give me a usable Griffey. Give me a 99 MVP Chipper. Give me some usable cards of the legends you already have instead of creating your own.

          But if they did that, there wouldn't be a huge rush for all the big cards that seems to happen every year. It's an area I wish they could get better at because even with this only being my second year with the game it's clear they don't properly power creep the cards or give usable versions of popular players.
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          • BigOscar
            MVP
            • May 2016
            • 2971

            #20
            Re: MLB The Show 20: The Future Is Bright Event Overview and Tips

            I mean, who doesn't want a 90+ rated version of the Blue Jays number 23 prospect?

            Think the mistake they made was getting the order of FotF wrong. That first team affinity diamond should have been these prospects, like the first batch they released in packs (low diamonds). Then they could have released really beefed up FotF players for Team Affinity 2 and no one would have complained. Having juiced up versions of each teams best players is cool, it was a good idea, but they went too low, too early with it. Making the Live players, the ones people actually have a real life connection to, relevant cards is a great thing. Making mediocre prospects who may or may not even make it as a major league player, the best players on the game, is stupid. It might please the computer game first bunch, who don't much care about baseball but like cards with big numbers on them, but it would make 100 times more sense to make the current best players these great cards instead.

            Give me a 94 Vlad, or 93 Buxton any day over a 95 Alex Bohm or Kevin Smith

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            • JoshC1977
              All Star
              • Dec 2010
              • 11564

              #21
              Re: MLB The Show 20: The Future Is Bright Event Overview and Tips

              Originally posted by BigOscar
              I mean, who doesn't want a 90+ rated version of the Blue Jays number 23 prospect?

              Think the mistake they made was getting the order of FotF wrong. That first team affinity diamond should have been these prospects, like the first batch they released in packs (low diamonds). Then they could have released really beefed up FotF players for Team Affinity 2 and no one would have complained. Having juiced up versions of each teams best players is cool, it was a good idea, but they went too low, too early with it. Making the Live players, the ones people actually have a real life connection to, relevant cards is a great thing. Making mediocre prospects who may or may not even make it as a major league player, the best players on the game, is stupid. It might please the computer game first bunch, who don't much care about baseball but like cards with big numbers on them, but it would make 100 times more sense to make the current best players these great cards instead.

              Give me a 94 Vlad, or 93 Buxton any day over a 95 Alex Bohm or Kevin Smith
              Well said....

              ....I mean, modes like this are indeed "fantasy modes"...I get that. But this just feels a bit too contrived...
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              • mikeq672
                MVP
                • Mar 2010
                • 1761

                #22
                Re: MLB The Show 20: The Future Is Bright Event Overview and Tips

                Originally posted by BigOscar
                I mean, who doesn't want a 90+ rated version of the Blue Jays number 23 prospect?

                Think the mistake they made was getting the order of FotF wrong. That first team affinity diamond should have been these prospects, like the first batch they released in packs (low diamonds). Then they could have released really beefed up FotF players for Team Affinity 2 and no one would have complained. Having juiced up versions of each teams best players is cool, it was a good idea, but they went too low, too early with it. Making the Live players, the ones people actually have a real life connection to, relevant cards is a great thing. Making mediocre prospects who may or may not even make it as a major league player, the best players on the game, is stupid. It might please the computer game first bunch, who don't much care about baseball but like cards with big numbers on them, but it would make 100 times more sense to make the current best players these great cards instead.

                Give me a 94 Vlad, or 93 Buxton any day over a 95 Alex Bohm or Kevin Smith
                They never have a sound plan for releasing cards and clearly just wing it each year, otherwise Id give them the benefit of the doubt this year with whats going on.

                Like last year how the first program rewards were garbage and then just jumped right to 99's. They just make things up on the fly and it shows badly.

                Some of these guys getting mid 90's cards arent even that good of prospects, meanwhile guys that are top 10 prospects now have 40 prospects better than them. I just wish theyd put some real thought into this stuff instead of panicking and making a bunch of cards they just released worthless.

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                • papadell
                  MVP
                  • Mar 2019
                  • 4176

                  #23
                  Re: MLB The Show 20: The Future Is Bright Event Overview and Tips

                  I really am afraid this huge negative reaction will cause them to just flood the 99s now. SN was roasting them for this and even Twitter people are ****ting on it.

                  Outside of the content, I hope they do some level of Showdown that lets us use our teams instead of just doing Moments to draft pitchers in an offensive boss battle mode. That might be fun.
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                  • BigOscar
                    MVP
                    • May 2016
                    • 2971

                    #24
                    Re: MLB The Show 20: The Future Is Bright Event Overview and Tips

                    Originally posted by mikeq672
                    They never have a sound plan for releasing cards and clearly just wing it each year, otherwise Id give them the benefit of the doubt this year with whats going on.

                    Like last year how the first program rewards were garbage and then just jumped right to 99's. They just make things up on the fly and it shows badly.

                    Some of these guys getting mid 90's cards arent even that good of prospects, meanwhile guys that are top 10 prospects now have 40 prospects better than them. I just wish theyd put some real thought into this stuff instead of panicking and making a bunch of cards they just released worthless.
                    Yeah, releasing content in a haphazard, disorganised order is becoming one of the real staples of this series. No idea why they don't set out a road map and plan things out better, it's not that hard. They then repeat the same mistakes year after year. The complete lack of joined up thinking is pretty staggering for a company that's been going for so long

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                    • BigOscar
                      MVP
                      • May 2016
                      • 2971

                      #25
                      Re: MLB The Show 20: The Future Is Bright Event Overview and Tips

                      Originally posted by Coxatron
                      I really am afraid this huge negative reaction will cause them to just flood the 99s now. SN was roasting them for this and even Twitter people are ****ting on it.

                      Outside of the content, I hope they do some level of Showdown that lets us use our teams instead of just doing Moments to draft pitchers in an offensive boss battle mode. That might be fun.
                      Yeah, in essence that is the bigger problem than the silly overrated prospect cards. They need to actually give a compelling reason to play the game and actually accumulate the team affinity points, because if it's just redoing the same boring Mto/showdown/innings nonsense then it's pretty irrelevant what the rewards are. It was boring enough to do that once, doing it all again every time they release a new chunk of affinity missions would be the dullest grind they've ever produced

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                      • JoshC1977
                        All Star
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 11564

                        #26
                        Re: MLB The Show 20: The Future Is Bright Event Overview and Tips

                        Originally posted by Coxatron
                        I really am afraid this huge negative reaction will cause them to just flood the 99s now. SN was roasting them for this and even Twitter people are ****ting on it.
                        Those folks roast anything that doesn't have maxed power with an OVR of 99....I kinda lol a bit at those crowds. I also suspect a large percentage of those folks don't even know who these guys are - because they don't even really follow the game. On the flip side...I've been out of prospect stuff the last year or so (I was heavy into it beforehand) and I'm looking-up a few of these guys....that's how DEEP they're digging (and then giving them 90+ OVRs; which would essentially be the "perfect world" scenario for their development).

                        I really hope SDS takes these guys with a massive grain of salt...because in the end, those casual guys whine for the sake of whining. But nonetheless, I think your fear is valid...I think the 3rd inning program is going to tell us a lot....
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                        • JoshC1977
                          All Star
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 11564

                          #27
                          Re: MLB The Show 20: The Future Is Bright Event Overview and Tips

                          Originally posted by BigOscar
                          Yeah, in essence that is the bigger problem than the silly overrated prospect cards. They need to actually give a compelling reason to play the game and actually accumulate the team affinity points, because if it's just redoing the same boring Mto/showdown/innings nonsense then it's pretty irrelevant what the rewards are. It was boring enough to do that once, doing it all again every time they release a new chunk of affinity missions would be the dullest grind they've ever produced
                          THIS right here....

                          I'd rather do a FUN grind for a card I don't want than do a dull grind for a card I DO want.
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                          • papadell
                            MVP
                            • Mar 2019
                            • 4176

                            #28
                            Re: MLB The Show 20: The Future Is Bright Event Overview and Tips

                            Originally posted by JoshC1977
                            THIS right here....



                            I'd rather do a FUN grind for a card I don't want than do a dull grind for a card I DO want.
                            Same. It's why I so openly bitch about the game.

                            I really don't feel like I'm doing anything worthwhile. Moments are manipulated with weird sliders, showdown is pretty much the same thing and online is a random bag of bugs, cheesers and RNG. At the end of it all...it doesn't feel fun and just feels pointless.

                            That's why I said I've had so much fun with PvCPU. There's still goofy **** with the game but for the most part, PvCPU on Legend is the game I want to play. I just get nothing out of it.
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                            • JoshC1977
                              All Star
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 11564

                              #29
                              Re: MLB The Show 20: The Future Is Bright Event Overview and Tips

                              Originally posted by Coxatron
                              Same. It's why I so openly bitch about the game.

                              I really don't feel like I'm doing anything worthwhile. Moments are manipulated with weird sliders, showdown is pretty much the same thing and online is a random bag of bugs, cheesers and RNG. At the end of it all...it doesn't feel fun and just feels pointless.

                              That's why I said I've had so much fun with PvCPU. There's still goofy **** with the game but for the most part, PvCPU on Legend is the game I want to play. I just get nothing out of it.
                              ...and for me, if I'm going to play a bunch of 9 inning games for no reason other than to accrue innings for TA for cards I don't want....I'm just going to go back to my franchises...

                              I've got enough stars for the 2nd inning (between Showdown, exchanges, and innings played) that if I ever decide I want to do some of the player programs or Conquest for that inning, I can do it and still hit 300. Right now, I'm just accumulating Play vs CPU missions in player programs....then I'll do a massive run through all the teams....
                              Play the games you love, not the games you want to love.

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                              • BigOscar
                                MVP
                                • May 2016
                                • 2971

                                #30
                                Re: MLB The Show 20: The Future Is Bright Event Overview and Tips

                                Make a 9 inning conquest USA with decent but not spectacular rewards and I'd put the 20 hours it takes to complete that, while racking up a ton of innings for TA. Would take zero programming to do as well.

                                Just give me a reason to play your game

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