DD/RTTS Combo..

[Kenzojoe]

I just heard about it, but haven't read anything or watched a video about it. I'm curious to see how SDS does this. Does this mean that CAPs in DD will be no more? Will this increase value on diamond equipment? And lastly, I usually do two or three RTTS a year. A SP, RP/CP and an everyday positional player. I'm curious to see if you can incorporate all your RTTS players on your DD squad or just use one.

The potential for a true fantasy squad is intriguing.

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[papadell]

Re: DD/RTTS Combo..

Yeah I'll be curious to see how they do it too. I personally dislike CAPs in DD but it's a money maker and people in general seem to like it.

I would imagine they're going to go the 2K route where you can basically create your player for RttS and then whatever you pump into it carries over. Basically keeps you from having to double down on equipment and stuff. And I would imagine you can only have one CAP active on your team at a time.

[ValhallaVikings]

Re: DD/RTTS Combo..

I'm one that likes my CAP player...

But at this stage of the year I believe they're not as good as other cards. I'm using my 102mph submarine LHP closer thats 6"10....I have all the eqpt but at this stage with the people that are playing it's not that big a deal

He throws a 102mph fb, a 98mph cutter, and like a 70mph changeup. That worked early on but the people that are still playing will sit on the fastball and lay off the eephus pitch. I think division series and above the CAP lefty is really only good in a jam where you need 1 out. If you pitch them an inning or two they get figured out.

I still think framber valdez is vastly underrated

I was using my CAP at SS until a month ago but started slumping with him so now I'm rolling with prestige tatis at SS and prestige honus at 2b

Even on offense, you can basically have a 125 contact/125 power/120 vision at nearly every position at this stage in the game. They're awesome early on but less effective by about December or so

[Kenzojoe]

Re: DD/RTTS Combo..

If CAP is no more, and you have to use your RTTS player, I hope, and I trust SDS, that it's not akin to 2K or MUT.

"You want this old-school Louisville Slugger for a power boost? That'll cost you 25 bucks of your real money. You want this pair of old school Franklin Batting gloves from the early 90s to help with your contact? That'll be 20 bucks."

That's what I'm afraid of.

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[papadell]

Re: DD/RTTS Combo..

I mean that's basically how it is now. You can earn stubs to buy equipment but can also pay to buy it all.

In 2K you just buy VC and can boost your attributes to whatever you want within the caps set by the player archetype or whatever. So theoretically you can just drop however much money to make your player as good as possible then have a beefed up player for RttS or a goon on your DD team.

[Kenzojoe]

Re: DD/RTTS Combo..

DD is nothing like 2K or MUT.

As of now, anything in the game can be had, you just have to play. Nothing is behind an insane pay wall.

What I'm fearful of, is normal stubs you earned, or grinding won't buy or unlock certain equipment.

Here is this special form of currency that you can only get by paying for it. You normal stub's don't apply.

Last season, by May, i had great diamond equipment for both my CAP and RTTS that I did not pay for. I got it by playing. I'm willing to bet the majority of the people did as well. Just look at equipment of all levels and see how cheap it was this year with stubs. It was an oversaturated market.

I might be wrong, but I think the most expensive thing was a Lizard Skin bat wrap, and that itself wasnt even that bad.

After that, you had stuff locked in through programs and not paywalls. Want it? Play the program it's associated with.

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[papadell]

Re: DD/RTTS Combo..

You can definitely earn stuff by playing. I meant more that if you're looking to max your player you're definitely spending money on the best equipment. Like the people who want to have a maxed out CAP in DD are spending serious stubs on the best stuff.

I'd wager that won't change much. 2K equipment is mostly just aesthetic, isn't it? You can spend real money to really customize your player but it doesn't change your stats. You literally just buy your stats with VC either through playing and earning or spending money.

With The Show not having a "Sandlot" feature akin to 2K's Playground, they can't fully mirror that system. And I think they're very aware that their XP Reward Path and general earning through playing is better than other sports games.

If they do this right it should actually save people time/money since they won't have to grind out multiple CAPs.

[Kenzojoe]

Re: DD/RTTS Combo..

Doing it "right" is keeping the stub/grinding formula that's already in place. I'm just worried that SDS will go down that dark path of pay to level up with special currency that hasn't been used yet in the game. Part of me says it'll be fine, another part says..."RTTS CAN BE USED IN DD!!" LOL

The grind is annoying enough, but I have faith in SDS. My dream is a chance to build a roster of fantasy players that are not in the game. I'd love to have my DD team go against others in RS, with my team being the entire roster of 93 Phillies. Lol

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[Kenzojoe]

Re: DD/RTTS Combo..

After watching that video...I didn't really see anything ground breaking, minus the programs being mentioned. Have a feeling only one RTTS can be tied to DD.

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[Dolenz]

Re: DD/RTTS Combo..

People keep trying to tell me that I am wrong but I see it more as a further Monetization of RTTS and CAP Players.

You were previously pretty much forced to hit the market to buy diamond equipment before now but looking at the video made me even more concerned. When doing missions you progress through rewards, these rewards are shown as Perk packs, Equipment packs, and even the end reward was shown as an Archetype pack.

Also, on the screen where it looked like they were dealing with perks, they all looked like bronze perks. That made me wonder if we are in a territory now where not only will you have to chase diamond equipment on the market but you'll also need to chase diamond perks.

Now add in two way players and loadouts. Essentially to be the best two way player you can be you will want one complete set of equipment and perks for the days you are a position player and another complete set for days that you are supposed to pitch.

And let us not overlook one thing they did say in the video and that is that you will only be able to get your base stats up to level 50 simply by playing, beyond that the improvements will come from equipped archetype, perks and equipment.

[Dolenz]

Re: DD/RTTS Combo..

After watching that video...I didn't really see anything ground breaking, minus the programs being mentioned. Have a feeling only one RTTS can be tied to DD.

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I'd go so far as to say that there is a possibility you only get a single RTTS save and that it will require online access to keep the player synced to their server for usage in DD.

[JoshC1977]

Re: DD/RTTS Combo..

People keep trying to tell me that I am wrong but I see it more as a further Monetization of RTTS and CAP Players.

You were previously pretty much forced to hit the market to buy diamond equipment before now but looking at the video made me even more concerned. When doing missions you progress through rewards, these rewards are shown as Perk packs, Equipment packs, and even the end reward was shown as an Archetype pack.

Also, on the screen where it looked like they were dealing with perks, they all looked like bronze perks. That made me wonder if we are in a territory now where not only will you have to chase diamond equipment on the market but you'll also need to chase diamond perks.

Now add in two way players and loadouts. Essentially to be the best two way player you can be you will want one complete set of equipment and perks for the days you are a position player and another complete set for days that you are supposed to pitch.

And let us not overlook one thing they did say in the video and that is that you will only be able to get your base stats up to level 50 simply by playing, beyond that the improvements will come from equipped archetype, perks and equipment.

So Mills did a post-stream wrap-up and raised some of these issues. SDS actually came on the stream and answered a couple of questions.

1. You can do the grind strictly by playing RTTS, strictly by playing DD, or both. Both sets have repeatable missions to earn the 'points' to move up.
2. Archetype/loadout "packs" are only earnable by playing.
3. The one thing unanswered is whether or not the perks are auctionable.

I believe it was said also that you can have more than one character. It is unclear if more than one could be used in DD at any one time (i.e. more than one CAP in a DD game).

[Dolenz]

Re: DD/RTTS Combo..

So Mills did a post-stream wrap-up and raised some of these issues. SDS actually came on the stream and answered a couple of questions.

1. You can do the grind strictly by playing RTTS, strictly by playing DD, or both. Both sets have repeatable missions to earn the 'points' to move up.
2. Archetype/loadout "packs" are only earnable by playing.
3. The one thing unanswered is whether or not the perks are auctionable.

I believe it was said also that you can have more than one character. It is unclear if more than one could be used in DD at any one time (i.e. more than one CAP in a DD game).

Now that I think about it I can see having multiple careers and just choosing which player you want to bring over to DD.

So the main thing to look out for is how Perk packs are handled. Are perks tiered (bronze, silver, gold, diamond) with the corresponding rarity, making the best perk cards expensive on the market (remembering that they will be needed by both RTTS and DD players). Will there be perk packs on the shop? Will perk cards be tossed into standard pack along with all of the other extras competing for the two non-player card slots in those packs?

Still some questions rattling around in my head.