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  • hitmanwa
    Rookie
    • Mar 2005
    • 317

    #1

    A year behind

    I just bought 06 for my son who's starting to get into baseball. I figured 20 bucks for 06 was a cheap deal. I, in the past have always played MVP. However, I sat down with him to teach him how to play and I couldn't put the controller down. I'm in love with this game. Anyhow, had a quick ? What does CFP in the pitcher status screen mean. I assume it's CFP as it's sort of squiched together. Also, are the red on zones hot and cold spots for the pitcher? On the field diagram for whatever you call it. Like 33% pulled, 33% straight away and 34% away they are color coded as well. What exactly does that mean. Sorry about the noob questions.

    How does 07 for PS2 compare? If I'm enjoying 06 so much is it worth the 50 or whatever to get 07?

    Thanks,
    Hit
    Last edited by hitmanwa; 05-26-2007, 09:39 AM.
  • Rodster
    Banned
    • Mar 2003
    • 5709

    #2
    Re: A year behind

    1) CFP I believe has to do with Pitcher Confidence. As his confidence goes up and he's in the zone the meters sweet spot gets larger.

    2) Cold and Hot Zones are for the batters.

    3) MLB 07 plays a little better than 06 but has framerate issues and a couple of bugs 06 didn't have.

    I purchased 07 for the PS3.

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    • hitmanwa
      Rookie
      • Mar 2005
      • 317

      #3
      Re: A year behind

      Originally posted by Rodster
      1) CFP I believe has to do with Pitcher Confidence. As his confidence goes up and he's in the zone the meters sweet spot gets larger.

      2) Cold and Hot Zones are for the batters.

      3) MLB 07 plays a little better than 06 but has framerate issues and a couple of bugs 06 didn't have.

      I purchased 07 for the PS3.
      Thanks so much for the quick reply. How come the hot/cold zone at the plate is different than the one you see in the status window, when you hold select down?

      Hmmm, after thinking about it a bit more, is it the opposing batters hot/cold zones as a whole vs. that particular pitcher? Sort of like Opponent's BA?
      Last edited by hitmanwa; 05-26-2007, 09:53 AM.

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      • baa7
        Banned
        • Jul 2004
        • 11691

        #4
        Re: A year behind

        Just another opinion: I stuck with 06 this year after renting 07. 07 has some serious slowdown/stuttering issues; the graphics are inferior (yes, you read that correctly); and it has a few glitches that weren’t in 06.

        I’d help you out with hot/cold zones, but I never use them, so I have no idea.

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        • hitmanwa
          Rookie
          • Mar 2005
          • 317

          #5
          Re: A year behind

          Originally posted by baa7
          Just another opinion: I stuck with 06 this year after renting 07. 07 has some serious slowdown/stuttering issues; the graphics are inferior (yes, you read that correctly); and it has a few glitches that weren’t in 06.

          I’d help you out with hot/cold zones, but I never use them, so I have no idea.
          Yeah, I generally don't use them either but I'm trying to get a handle on the game. Any suggestions for sliders for 06? Most of the stuff I've rooted through is for 07.

          Thanks again,
          Hit

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          • Woodweaver
            Developer
            • Apr 2006
            • 1145

            #6
            Re: A year behind

            In short, I'd go for '07. Some people have mentioned the framerate hit occasionally after a hit is made and the camera is transitioning to fielding. Personally, I never really noticed it until it was mentioned on these boards, and it never affected my gameplay. The graphics (other than the GUI) are exactly the same as '06 in my opinion. Athough there are some new bugs in Franchise and Season modes, they have a bunch of new stuff:

            1) New animations (swings, catches, throws, etc.)

            2) Some new cutscenes

            3) Better ball physics resulting in a much wider variety of hits and throws

            4) Adaptive Pitch Interface. Which has your catcher call the game for you (giving you pitch type and location suggestions) based on the specific situation. You can shake him off (or turn it off all together) if you have a better idea.

            5) Umpire personalities. One ump may have a tight strike zone while another may be a bit more liberal. You have to figure it out.

            6) Road To The Show mode. Where you take your created player from AA to the Show (if you're lucky). Kinda like career mode, but you see each play, at bat, etc. from your players perspective via an "over the shoulder" camera.

            7) New baserunner controls that I personally find much more intuitive. Although you can stick with the '06 ones if you prefer.

            There is more stuff too! Rent '07...I think you'll see it is worth the upgrade.
            "Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"

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            • baa7
              Banned
              • Jul 2004
              • 11691

              #7
              Re: A year behind

              Originally posted by hitmanwa
              Any suggestions for sliders for 06? Most of the stuff I've rooted through is for 07.
              I’ll run down a few things with 06. I’d check my sliders BTW except I put my PS2 away last week and hauled out my Xbox. (2K5 football, baby! And the Yankees are awful this year, so I’m depressed and turned off baseball... until they get their act together.)

              The most realistic setting seems to be Allstar, or Veteran if you prefer timing-only hitting. HoF is for people who like to strike out 15 times a game and pretend that’s ‘sim’ just because it’s the hardest setting

              The contact slider does not determine your ability to hit the ball. It affects the velocity of the hit – how hard the ball comes off the bat. A lot of people played 06 with both contact sliders at or close to 0 (all the way left). What this does is give a realistic assortment of hits – they’re not all screaming line drives, in other words. On the other hand, the CPU outfielders cut off too many potential gappers, so you might want to make sure you don’t lower User contact too low.

              I fixed a lot of these issues with player rating edits, but I’m trying to stay away from recommending that sort of thing, given you and your son probably just want to enjoy the game.

              The power sliders are really up to you. I have the CPU power slider somewhere around 1/4 and mine at just under 1/2. The CPU seems to have an advantage in some areas of the game programming – common with a lot of games.

              Another area the CPU has a huge advantage: throwing accuracy. My CPU slider for that is at 0, while my User slider is maxed (all the way right).

              Both arm strength sliders should be set at 0. I’m not sure anyone who played the game last year would argue that one.

              There are very few errors in the game (a programming issue). I have both error sliders maxed, but it causes a lot of overthrows to first (especially User throws) and dropped fly balls. So tweak that one however you feel best.

              Something to be aware of: an issue many had with 06 is that the pitcher confidence feature is programmed to an extreme degree. If a pitcher gives up 3-4 hits, he’s basically toast. Don’t know how that affects 2 Player games, but against the CPU it can be as frustrating as watching the Yankees this year.

              And as suggested: RENT 07 before buying. Many people who loved 06 were disappointed with it. It's improved in some areas, yes; just be aware it has some real issues as well.

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              • hitmanwa
                Rookie
                • Mar 2005
                • 317

                #8
                Re: A year behind

                Thanks woodweaver and baa, I'll work on the sliders and planned on renting 07 before dropping that much money. 1 thing I did notice, in career mode anyhow, was that there's a lot of knuckleballers and a ton of passed balls. Maybe that's just me.

                Thanks again all,
                Hit

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                • baa7
                  Banned
                  • Jul 2004
                  • 11691

                  #9
                  Re: A year behind

                  Originally posted by hitmanwa
                  1 thing I did notice, in career mode anyhow, was that there's a lot of knuckleballers and a ton of passed balls. Maybe that's just me.
                  Knuckleballs in The Show don't work. I just gave Wakefield a palmball and made him a reliever.

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                  • Heelfan71
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 19940

                    #10
                    Re: A year behind

                    Originally posted by baa7
                    HoF is for people who like to strike out 15 times a game and pretend that’s ‘sim’ just because it’s the hardest setting

                    l.

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                    • slthree
                      MVP
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 2529

                      #11
                      Re: A year behind

                      Originally posted by hitmanwa
                      Thanks so much for the quick reply. How come the hot/cold zone at the plate is different than the one you see in the status window, when you hold select down?

                      Hmmm, after thinking about it a bit more, is it the opposing batters hot/cold zones as a whole vs. that particular pitcher? Sort of like Opponent's BA?
                      It is from the batters perspective as he looks out at the pitcher. Don't ask why. It confuses me too. It's the same thing you see from the mound but you are looking at it from the pitcher's perspective.

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                      • hitmanwa
                        Rookie
                        • Mar 2005
                        • 317

                        #12
                        Re: A year behind

                        Originally posted by slthree
                        It is from the batters perspective as he looks out at the pitcher. Don't ask why. It confuses me too. It's the same thing you see from the mound but you are looking at it from the pitcher's perspective.
                        Wow, I feel stupid...makes sense now though.

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