MLB '08: The Show Review

**Oldschool17** · 03-18-2008, 04:46 PM

Re: MLB '08: The Show Review

Originally posted by djep

Is that in context enough for you?

"A game that is obviously created with online vs. play being an added bonus should not be negated in a review for average online play." Online vs. play being an added bonus? Modes like RTTS are added bonuses. Online play has been standard in sports games for most of the past decade.

"When was the last time we saw a sports game without sliders? Yet, how many times do we see a game released with customizable sliders that some don't usually have an effect?" FIFA, Winning Eleven, Tiger Woods, NASCAR, F1:CE, Top Spin 2....none of these have sliders. Yet, they still feature online versus play.

Thank you for understanding my point...Now we have 3 people that actually get where I'm going with this..I'm stilll waiting to hear someone score this game assuming that Franchise was unreliable or problematic. What does anyone think that score would be if Franchise was not reliable?...Would it still rate a 8 or 9?

**jim416** · 03-18-2008, 06:48 PM

Re: MLB '08: The Show Review

Good lord.

**SoxChamp** · 03-18-2008, 07:21 PM

Re: MLB '08: The Show Review

Originally posted by Slizeezyc

Plus there's so much else the online offers outside of the H2H play itself.

He doesn't understand this. There is no use in continuing the discussion.

The one area that he personally enjoys is not up to par with the rest of this terrific game, so he feels the entire review should suffer. 6.5? Utterly asinine.

**Oldschool17** · 03-18-2008, 10:28 PM

Re: MLB '08: The Show Review

Originally posted by SoxChamp

He doesn't understand this. There is no use in continuing the discussion.

The one area that he personally enjoys is not up to par with the rest of this terrific game, so he feels the entire review should suffer. 6.5? Utterly asinine.

I never stated the game should be a 6.5...That was just an arbitrary number thrown out there as an example...If your gonna attempt to explain and/or discuss something I've commented p[lease be kind enough to get your facts straight...Thanks

**SoxChamp** · 03-18-2008, 10:51 PM

Re: MLB '08: The Show Review

Originally posted by Oldschool17

I never stated the game should be a 6.5...That was just an arbitrary number thrown out there as an example...If your gonna attempt to explain and/or discuss something I've commented p[lease be kind enough to get your facts straight...Thanks

Really? On Page 2, you said that without reliable online play, this game is a 6.5-7.0. Those are YOUR words. That's YOUR "review score". You can't tell me to forget your so-called "arbitrary" number of 6.5 when you can't stop focusing on the 9 it received from the review. We're talking strictly numbers here, right? Afterall, it was mentioned in the review THREE TIMES that online play was unreliable.

If you are going to continue to hammer home redundant point after redundant point, at least avoid being a hypocrite while doing so. Thanks.

This discussion is over with me. Happy gaming.

**Oldschool17** · 03-18-2008, 11:01 PM

Re: MLB '08: The Show Review

Originally posted by SoxChamp

Really? On Page 2, you said that without reliable online play, this game is a 6.5-7.0. Those are YOUR words. That's YOUR "review score". You can't tell me to forget your so-called "arbitrary" number of 6.5 when you can't stop focusing on the 9 it received from the review. We're talking strictly numbers here, right? Afterall, it was mentioned in the review THREE TIMES that online play was unreliable.

If you are going to continue to hammer home redundant point after redundant point, at least avoid being a hypocrite while doing so. Thanks.

This discussion is over with me. Happy gaming.

get your facts straight son..This is the exact quote

This game w/reliable online play is a 9...maybe a 10..But w/o its closer to a 6.5 - 7.0...Laugh if you want but until the voices in the community ring loud and clear in a producers ear about the overall dissatisfaction gamers have with next gen online play there will be no changes for the foreseeable near future.

Again...the whole premise of my suggestion was to utilize arbitrary numbers to get the attention of game producers who routinely neglect portions of videogames that are extremely important to consumers in an effort to cause companies to be more thorough with all areas of all games...Not just Franchise and not just online.

Until a producer or game manufacturer comes on this forum and specifically sais that Franchise is more important than Online and/or vice versa I'll stand by my crazy notion that both are equally important to producers and gamers as a whole. Hell..show me any comment by EA, 2k or Sony concerning their sports titles where they negate the importance of ONLINE in favor of franchise and/or vice versa.

Poorly constructed REVIEWS and while I'm not saying the OS review was poor... I am suggesting it can be misleading as most reviews often focus on whats important to the reviewer and his personal taste as opposed to truly representing the community as a whole..If you can't understand or see that then your blind among other things. Happy gaming right back at ya

**huskerfan4life** · 03-19-2008, 12:49 AM

Re: MLB '08: The Show Review

I have now been playing exhibition games for the last 14 days and i must say that the game is totally awsome and does put you in the game of baseball and it is the most realistic baseball simulation that i have seen in a very long time

**bh446066** · 03-21-2008, 11:15 AM

Re: MLB '08: The Show Review

nothing like reading through 10 pages of bickering.......

**bkrich83** · 03-21-2008, 11:33 AM

Re: MLB '08: The Show Review

Originally posted by bh446066

nothing like reading through 10 pages of bickering.......

Happens after every review. There's always some clown hung up on the score of the game, and thus must tell everyone why the score is "wrong". As if a score based on a personal opinion can be wrong.

Such is life.

**DickDalewood** · 03-23-2008, 02:29 PM

Re: MLB '08: The Show Review

If it weren't for a few knuckleheads bickering back and forth about the validity of an opinion based number score, I'd give this thread a 9.5... maybe even a 10.

As it stands, I can't score it higher than a 7.

**agonytheclown** · 03-27-2008, 08:47 PM

Re: MLB '08: The Show Review

Originally posted by huskerfan4life

I have now been playing exhibition games for the last 14 days and i must say that the game is totally awsome and does put you in the game of baseball and it is the most realistic baseball simulation that i have seen in a very long time

Wow. You think that The Show is a simulation? You must be new to gaming, or computing in general. Try OOTP if you really want to play a "simulation" There aren't any animations in that game, but you will for sure being playing a realistic game of baseball.

**SoxChamp** · 03-30-2008, 03:25 PM

Re: MLB '08: The Show Review

Originally posted by agonytheclown

Wow. You think that The Show is a simulation? You must be new to gaming, or computing in general. Try OOTP if you really want to play a "simulation" There aren't any animations in that game, but you will for sure being playing a realistic game of baseball.

I really hate when people try to compare games like The Show to OOTP. They are two completely different games, and I'm hard-pressed to actually call OOTP a "game". For a console baseball game WITH GRAPHICS, The Show is a terrific simulation that plays an incredible game of baseball. I'd love to know how a text-based generator can be considered a "simulation" of anything, other than reading. No thanks. Nothing makes you feel more on the *outside* of a sport than a game where you have to read everything and see nothing. Heck, even GM's that watch from the press box see more action than people "playing" OOTP. Granted, I admire it's statistical engine, but it's not a simulation. It's a stat generator, and nothing more. Now that's what I call fun! You said he'd be playing a realistic game of baseball. I fail to see where playing is actually involved.

If anything, I'd love to see The Show incorporate the guys from OOTP into the development process and mold the two games.

**Eddie1967** · 03-30-2008, 08:35 PM

Re: MLB '08: The Show Review

Originally posted by SoxChamp

I really hate when people try to compare games like The Show to OOTP. They are two completely different games, and I'm hard-pressed to actually call OOTP a "game". For a console baseball game WITH GRAPHICS, The Show is a terrific simulation that plays an incredible game of baseball. I'd love to know how a text-based generator can be considered a "simulation" of anything, other than reading. No thanks. Nothing makes you feel more on the *outside* of a sport than a game where you have to read everything and see nothing. Heck, even GM's that watch from the press box see more action than people "playing" OOTP. Granted, I admire it's statistical engine, but it's not a simulation. It's a stat generator, and nothing more. Now that's what I call fun! You said he'd be playing a realistic game of baseball. I fail to see where playing is actually involved.

If anything, I'd love to see The Show incorporate the guys from OOTP into the development process and mold the two games.

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Just thought I would help you out there.

**SoxChamp** · 03-30-2008, 08:40 PM

Re: MLB '08: The Show Review

Originally posted by Eddie1967

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Just thought I would help you out there.

Thanks. I can't believe I misplaced my dictionary. Thank God you were there to rescue me. All of a sudden, OOTP makes sense. Whew!

**Eddie1967** · 03-30-2008, 08:44 PM

Re: MLB '08: The Show Review

Originally posted by SoxChamp

Thanks. I can't believe I misplaced my dictionary. Thank God you were there to rescue me. All of a sudden, OOTP makes sense. Whew!

LOL, that's what I'm here for, to help you out. No problem.

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