MLB 09 The Show Blog: New and Improved A.I.

[Rob_NYY]

Re: MLB 09 The Show Blog: New and Improved A.I.

It's pretty obvious this guy is a 2K troll. He's done this before.

[Knight165]

Re: MLB 09 The Show Blog: New and Improved A.I.

You could call it MLB:Hot Rocks in Water Soup and I'd still say it looks friggin' AMAZING.
I'll tell you what.
I'll play MLB '08.2(we did have that one patch last year...that's .1 ) and be very happy.
40 man rosters...***le V...amateur draft....waiver options....tons of gameplay improvements.....improved atmosphere in the stadium....day/night transition.....new additions to the editor.....and sounds like even more ON TOP of the already best game out there.
I'm in....

M.K.
Knight165

[Rob_NYY]

Re: MLB 09 The Show Blog: New and Improved A.I.

You could call it MLB:Hot Rocks in Water Soup and I'd still say it looks friggin' AMAZING.
I'll tell you what.
I'll play MLB '08.2(we did have that one patch last year...that's .1 ) and be very happy.
40 man rosters...***le V...amateur draft....waiver options....tons of gameplay improvements.....improved atmosphere in the stadium....day/night transition.....new additions to the editor.....and sounds like even more ON TOP of the already best game out there.
I'm in....

M.K.
Knight165

Amen.

[Trax]

Re: MLB 09 The Show Blog: New and Improved A.I.

You could call it MLB:Hot Rocks in Water Soup and I'd still say it looks friggin' AMAZING.
I'll tell you what.
I'll play MLB '08.2(we did have that one patch last year...that's .1 ) and be very happy.
40 man rosters...***le V...amateur draft....waiver options....tons of gameplay improvements.....improved atmosphere in the stadium....day/night transition.....new additions to the editor.....and sounds like even more ON TOP of the already best game out there.
I'm in....

M.K.
Knight165

Knight -- No kidding!

They have added everything! Jim and I talk about this every year!

The only thing I would love as I too am a roster freak -- a total player editor for all players.

This way you can change names of some of the players that last year you could not...

Here is hoping!

[atlbravesws05]

Re: MLB 09 The Show Blog: New and Improved A.I.

Well, let me first say that i bought the PS3 for this series believe it or not. I played these games since 989's 2001 and i loved it year after year. Well, until 08 came around. I was happy with 07, but i expected more than jusy shiny graphical improvements. Well, when i bought 08, i felt as though i played 07 all over again. Knowing me, i will complain but it is inevitable for me to not buy 09 The Show. I have too. I'm just too much of a baseball fan to not get this game. However, i have no problem admitting that i look at 2K as well. Even though The Show is far far superior, i still get 2k7 and 2k8 just to try them out. Well, i sold them because they were bad. I kept 08 The Show for alittle longer but sold it as well because i started to get bored. I dont know if the same will come about this year. I will definitely look at both 2k9 and 09 and i will most likely get both. As someone mentioned before, I'm expecting to much and i wont be getting it. Whatever. Everything will always be opinionated. Me wanting a new mechanic will get me a few bashes and a few agreements. I will always stand by with what i think and i wont let nobody tell me otherwise. In this case, you are asking me to prove input and ways to improve the game, well I'am but apparently it automatically makes me a 2k trool. I will admit that yes i always come in here and talk about the inclusion of a new hitting or pitching mechanic, and yet i never get one. Maybe in '10 but we will see. Hopefully, the new player models will at least provide a sort of new refreshment to this franchise.

[dtigers63]

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Well, let me first say that i bought the PS3 for this series believe it or not. I played these games since 989's 2001 and i loved it year after year. Well, until 08 came around. I was happy with 07, but i expected more than jusy shiny graphical improvements. Well, when i bought 08, i felt as though i played 07 all over again. Knowing me, i will complain but it is inevitable for me to not buy 09 The Show. I have too. I'm just too much of a baseball fan to not get this game. However, i have no problem admitting that i look at 2K as well. Even though The Show is far far superior, i still get 2k7 and 2k8 just to try them out. Well, i sold them because they were bad. I kept 08 The Show for alittle longer but sold it as well because i started to get bored. I dont know if the same will come about this year. I will definitely look at both 2k9 and 09 and i will most likely get both. As someone mentioned before, I'm expecting to much and i wont be getting it. Whatever. Everything will always be opinionated. Me wanting a new mechanic will get me a few bashes and a few agreements. I will always stand by with what i think and i wont let nobody tell me otherwise. In this case, you are asking me to prove input and ways to improve the game, well I'am but apparently it automatically makes me a 2k trool. I will admit that yes i always come in here and talk about the inclusion of a new hitting or pitching mechanic, and yet i never get one. Maybe in '10 but we will see. Hopefully, the new player models will at least provide a sort of new refreshment to this franchise.

One thing I think you need to consider though, is how the developers of this game go out of their way to ask the OS community what it is they want added to the game and I think they do the best they can to accomplish this. I understand your not thrilled about their not being a new pitcher/batter interface (though I don't that's been verified, oh well I could be wrong) or swing stick, but to say that the improvements they made to franchise, the fielding improvements, ect are minor and should be dismissed isn't really being fair in the overall picture. I would even go as far to say that if it wasn't for the SCEA team, the guys from EA still wouldn't be interacting with the OS community. They saw the benefits and decided this is something they should also be doing. The one glaring omission from this equation are the 2K guys, not sure why they have no interaction with this board but it sure couldn't hurt their product in the long run.

[Woodweaver]

Re: MLB 09 The Show Blog: New and Improved A.I.

One thing I think you need to consider though, is how the developers of this game go out of their way to ask the OS community what it is they want added to the game and I think they do the best they can to accomplish this. I understand your not thrilled about their not being a new pitcher/batter interface (though I don't that's been verified, oh well I could be wrong) or swing stick, but to say that the improvements they made to franchise, the fielding improvements, ect are minor and should be dismissed isn't really being fair in the overall picture. I would even go as far to say that if it wasn't for the SCEA team, the guys from EA still wouldn't be interacting with the OS community. They saw the benefits and decided this is something they should also be doing. The one glaring omission from this equation are the 2K guys, not sure why they have no interaction with this board but it sure couldn't hurt their product in the long run.

Not to mention that there is no way to know what SCEA has tried to implement. They may have tried swing stick and new pitching meters, but could not get it to a state with which they were satisfied. Rather than release something that they felt was subpar, unbalanced, unrealistic, and/or just not fun, they may have chose to wait and focus on other elements.

Whatever the case, it makes no sense to post what you posted in this particular thread. You wouldn't go to a board for hot dog lovers, find a thread discussing the merits of the new buns, and post a comment there saying hot dogs are boring and the new buns are pointless because they haven't come up with any new shapes for hot dogs. At least, you would know you would get some push back and troll accusations.

Just my opinion.

[atlbravesws05]

Re: MLB 09 The Show Blog: New and Improved A.I.

Of course i respect what the guys here are doing. However, its blatent that they are not imprementing new mechanics because they feel its not neccessary. That again will also create debates whoch i don't want to go through. I'm not going to beg for new mechanics, i just hope they at least consider them.

As for the other post, if they did try to work on new mechanics, i'm sure they would have mentioned it at least instead of hiding it.

[Skyboxer]

Re: MLB 09 The Show Blog: New and Improved A.I.

SoxChamp, how would you know? The majority here will disagree with me, but outside these boards, you won't know.

Arbitration, 40 man rosters, new fielding animations etc.. etc... and "it's the same game as 08"?
Any, ANY baseball fan thinks this game is going to be vastly different than '08. If you want add-ons/gimmicks just for the sake of adding things every year then this game isn't for you.
I'm not downing you but trying to save you some money.
It seems to me that you're looking for a new video game while the rest of us are looking for a new game of baseball... and we're getting it.
It's just not for you apparently. Sorry man.

[dtigers63]

Re: MLB 09 The Show Blog: New and Improved A.I.

Not to mention that there is no way to know what SCEA has tried to implement. They may have tried swing stick and new pitching meters, but could not get it to a state with which they were satisfied. Rather than release something that they felt was subpar, unbalanced, unrealistic, and/or just not fun, they may have chose to wait and focus on other elements.

Whatever the case, it makes no sense to post what you posted in this particular thread. You wouldn't go to a board for hot dog lovers, find a thread discussing the merits of the new buns, and post a comment there saying hots are boring because they haven't come up with any new shapes for hot dogs. At least, you would know you would get some push back and troll accusations.

Just my opinion.

Your first paragraph is an excellent point, how many times have we seen things implemented only to have it cause twice as many problems. I think this was one of the things that led to 2K's game being so underwhelming last year, they simply added to many things and never got everything debugged.

[atlbravesws05]

Re: MLB 09 The Show Blog: New and Improved A.I.

Sky, I don't understand why you are saying every year they should include new mechanics and what not. Since the 989 days, this franchise used the same old hitting mechanics where you hit X for hitting and for the last few years, they used the same pitching mechanic with the meter. Making a transition to next gen, i expected at least one notible aspect to the overall gameplay that made it feel like a brand new or at least a "next gen" baseball game created by the same developers.

[Woodweaver]

Re: MLB 09 The Show Blog: New and Improved A.I.

Of course i respect what the guys here are doing. However, its blatent that they are not imprementing new mechanics because they feel its not neccessary. That again will also create debates whoch i don't want to go through. I'm not going to beg for new mechanics, i just hope they at least consider them.

As for the other post, if they did try to work on new mechanics, i'm sure they would have mentioned it at least instead of hiding it.

How do you know that they are blatently not implementing features because they feel they are uneccessary? Do you have some dialogue with them to which we are not privy? Or, are these just wild assumptions?

Why would they tell you or any one here about new features before they are ready? They have kept many things close to the vest even on features that are definite for the current release.

[Mark IV]

Re: MLB 09 The Show Blog: New and Improved A.I.

The pitching and batting interfaces are perfect as is, I hope they never change them.

[Woodweaver]

Re: MLB 09 The Show Blog: New and Improved A.I.

Sky, I don't understand why you are saying every year they should include new mechanics and what not. Since the 989 days, this franchise used the same old hitting mechanics where you hit X for hitting and for the last few years, they used the same pitching mechanic with the meter. Making a transition to next gen, i expected at least one notible aspect to the overall gameplay that made it feel like a brand new or at least a "next gen" baseball game created by the same developers.

How about completely new graphics and hundreds of new animations to name just two "next gen" features?

[atlbravesws05]

Re: MLB 09 The Show Blog: New and Improved A.I.

One, I said gameplay.

Two, the new animations, at least for me dont enhance the overall gameplay to a new level. Plus, i'm talking specifically about pitching and hitting.