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  • The Bimmer
    Far from perfect
    • Oct 2006
    • 1236

    #1771
    Re: MLB 09 The Show Demo Available, Post Impressions Here

    Originally posted by jim416
    Well, there are new people that come along and read these things and don't realize how old the build is, haven't read the things that definitely have been corrected, haven't read through the impressions we had at SCEA, etc.

    I am currently pausing the game and counting every duplicate button in the crowd and will report my findings.

    3,489,298,346,893,489 and 1. Thats what i came up with. Let me know when your done!

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    • DickDalewood

      #1772
      Re: MLB 09 The Show Demo Available, Post Impressions Here

      Just had Rollins get ejected for arguing a close play at first. That was a new one

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      • DickDalewood

        #1773
        Re: MLB 09 The Show Demo Available, Post Impressions Here

        Originally posted by countryboy
        nah, the line that gets me is when Matty V says, "its 64 degrees under mostly cloudy skies" and the sun is shining brightly down on the field.

        lol
        Hahahaha dude that drives me nuts! Maybe his vision is just clouded.

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        • The Bimmer
          Far from perfect
          • Oct 2006
          • 1236

          #1774
          Re: MLB 09 The Show Demo Available, Post Impressions Here

          Originally posted by dickdalewood
          Just had Rollins get ejected for arguing a close play at first. That was a new one
          Yeah, B.J. Upton got tossed the day for me too. I wonder if a manager will get thrown out this year? I've seen the managers arguing a few times also.

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          • meatman
            Rookie
            • Jul 2002
            • 312

            #1775
            Re: MLB 09 The Show Demo Available, Post Impressions Here

            For those that played the 08 version and the demo for 09, is there a reason to purchase 09?

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            • spitoon
              Pro
              • Apr 2004
              • 926

              #1776
              Re: MLB 09 The Show Demo Available, Post Impressions Here

              Originally posted by meatman
              For those that played the 08 version and the demo for 09, is there a reason to purchase 09?
              There is another thread about this somewhere (I think there's another thread about everything ever asked about MLB '09 before )...

              The consensus was that 'casual players' might not see the full benefit of upgrading from 08 to 09, but 'serious players' will definitely see it.

              For me, the addition of 40 man rosters and the other 'contract' stuff is great, plus it's really purdy

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              • DickDalewood

                #1777
                Re: MLB 09 The Show Demo Available, Post Impressions Here

                Originally posted by meatman
                For those that played the 08 version and the demo for 09, is there a reason to purchase 09?
                Depsite this build being from mid-December (you're welcome Jim), it's very evident that 09 just plays a better game of baseball. It's not a specific huge improvement type thing, they just did so many little things with the graphics, gameplay, etc, that there is no way I would go back to 08 now. Need proof? I've played the freakin' demo over 30 times... A DEMO!!! That should tell you how awesome this game could be...

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                • dave_sz
                  Pro
                  • Mar 2005
                  • 575

                  #1778
                  Re: MLB 09 The Show Demo Available, Post Impressions Here

                  Is there a reason why he slid like 7 feet past the base?


                  Shot of what was the beginning of a nice DP


                  Bad, bad, BAD collision detection


                  Another thing that keeps happening to me is that I can't seem to preload the 2nd baseman for double plays. Say the SS picks the ball up and throws it to the 2nd baseman, while the ball is in the air I'll hold O to preload a throw to 1st, but it doesn't always register...

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                  • jim416
                    Banned
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 10606

                    #1779
                    Re: MLB 09 The Show Demo Available, Post Impressions Here

                    I'm not sure that first photo is seven feet past home, not like that's never been seen in baseball.

                    The demo is a build from DECEMBER, MID DECEMBER. As stated, we had no problem pre-loading and turning any types of double plays at the event with the NEW build (which still wasn't the final).

                    The game doesn't have collision detection. They have worked on having the player side step IN THE MORE RECENT BUILD WE SAW and it seemed to work better. I didn't even see a clipping kind of problem when I played. Will it be there, yes, as there is NO COLLISION DETECTION IN THE GAME.

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                    • Scottdau
                      Banned
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 32580

                      #1780
                      Re: MLB 09 The Show Demo Available, Post Impressions Here

                      Originally posted by jim416
                      I'm not sure that first photo is seven feet past home, not like that's never been seen in baseball.

                      The demo is a build from DECEMBER, MID DECEMBER. As stated, we had no problem pre-loading and turning any types of double plays at the event with the NEW build (which still wasn't the final).

                      The game doesn't have collision detection. They have worked on having the player side step IN THE MORE RECENT BUILD WE SAW and it seemed to work better. I didn't even see a clipping kind of problem when I played. Will it be there, yes, as there is NO COLLISION DETECTION IN THE GAME.
                      So what are you saying there is NO COLLISION DETECTION IN THE GAME or do you mean there is no collision detection in the game? I am lost, you mean there isn't or there is?
                      Also, those where some nice pics. I love the way this game looks. Also, they said that the players will side step each other this year. Not all the time, but a lot of times. So it really wouldn't be an issue.

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                      • jim416
                        Banned
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 10606

                        #1781
                        Re: MLB 09 The Show Demo Available, Post Impressions Here

                        I'm requesting all future demos self destruct after seven days, lol. I'd still like to see the demos released the morning that the retail version gets released. It's safer that way.

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                        • spitoon
                          Pro
                          • Apr 2004
                          • 926

                          #1782
                          Re: MLB 09 The Show Demo Available, Post Impressions Here

                          Originally posted by dave_sz

                          Another thing that keeps happening to me is that I can't seem to preload the 2nd baseman for double plays. Say the SS picks the ball up and throws it to the 2nd baseman, while the ball is in the air I'll hold O to preload a throw to 1st, but it doesn't always register...
                          Actually, I have seen that issue where the throw doesn't happen from 2nd to 1st in this demo. I saw it occasionally in '08 as well. I'm not sure if it's a timing thing or what, but it is very rare. I suppose it could be something that I'm doing wrong, but DP's work 95% of the time so I'm doing some of it right.

                          As far as 'collision detection' goes. While it would be nice, if you really think about it, it is going to be a huge undertaking. Just taking that image as an example, think about what would have to happen if this game had full collision detection...there'd have to be an entire new library of animations/mo-caps to deal with the guy hitting Howard's legs and the resulting 'collision' (or partial collision/avoidance). You couldn't just have the guy hit Howard and stop dead, or you'd have a 10 page thread about how unrealistic the collisions are. No easy task to be sure.

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                          • dave_sz
                            Pro
                            • Mar 2005
                            • 575

                            #1783
                            Re: MLB 09 The Show Demo Available, Post Impressions Here

                            Originally posted by spitoon
                            Actually, I have seen that issue where the throw doesn't happen from 2nd to 1st in this demo. I saw it occasionally in '08 as well. I'm not sure if it's a timing thing or what, but it is very rare. I suppose it could be something that I'm doing wrong, but DP's work 95% of the time so I'm doing some of it right.

                            As far as 'collision detection' goes. While it would be nice, if you really think about it, it is going to be a huge undertaking. Just taking that image as an example, think about what would have to happen if this game had full collision detection...there'd have to be an entire new library of animations/mo-caps to deal with the guy hitting Howard's legs and the resulting 'collision' (or partial collision/avoidance). You couldn't just have the guy hit Howard and stop dead, or you'd have a 10 page thread about how unrealistic the collisions are. No easy task to be sure.
                            No there wouldn't. If that specific thing happened, Howard would be called for interference since he's in he baserunners way, right?

                            Another thing that has been happening ALL THE TIME is throwing out the base stealer at 2nd. 99% of the time, the catcher throws the ball high and the 2nd baseman has to jump therefore he guy is always safe a 2nd. This is happening both when I'm stealing as well as when i'm trying to throw the guy out. And this early build as well as the "we saw nothing like this at the community day or whatever it was" CAN'T be an answer for everything! You guys answer some questions that you get with a " we didn't have enough time to try this or we didn't see this"but other you answer we didn;t see it so it isn't there. Just cause you didn't see it doesn't mean it was fixed. Truth is for most of the things you DON'T know if they were fixed unless the devs or people there specifically told you so.
                            Last edited by dave_sz; 02-22-2009, 11:35 PM.

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                            • riDIRKulous41
                              Pro
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 724

                              #1784
                              Re: MLB 09 The Show Demo Available, Post Impressions Here

                              Sliding past a base, especially at home plate is called momentum

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                              • DickDalewood

                                #1785
                                Re: MLB 09 The Show Demo Available, Post Impressions Here

                                Originally posted by jim416
                                I'm requesting all future demos self destruct after seven days, lol. I'd still like to see the demos released the morning that the retail version gets released. It's safer that way.
                                I agree. I keep telling myself to delete this and wait for the game to come out, but I can't stop myself!

                                Damn beautiful, fun demo...

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