Fact or Fiction: Baseball Games Cometh Edition

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  • trm538
    Rookie
    • Feb 2009
    • 3

    #31
    the ball physics were ok. I played the game again the other day and randy johnson's slider does not move 8 feet across the strike zone. It was ridiculous

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    • Petocrew
      Rookie
      • Jul 2008
      • 35

      #32
      I'm going to get roasted but I haven't embraced a baseball game since Baseball Stars. I find that either a main component of gameplay to be all off in every game.

      I realize Baseball Stars was an arcade experience, but at least it was fun for me.

      I'm hoping that the Show or 2K game delivers this year.

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      • JohnnytheSkin
        All Star
        • Jul 2003
        • 5914

        #33
        A bit off topic, but what are the forum names of these writers? Since most of the OS discussion is IN the forums, knowing the backgrounds and opinions of these guys would be helpful.

        Maybe an Arena link for each one in their names or something?
        I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams

        Oh, sorry...I got distracted by the internet. - Scott Pilgrim

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        • crazymallard
          Rookie
          • Feb 2007
          • 86

          #34
          Re: Fact or Fiction: Baseball Games Cometh Edition

          hey JohnnytheSkin, I'm Jack Hoeffel. You may see me on the forums now and then, but to be honest I haven't posted much recently.

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          • Knight165
            *ll St*r
            • Feb 2003
            • 24964

            #35
            Re: Fact or Fiction: Baseball Games Cometh Edition

            Originally posted by Art1bk
            Somebody has to be wearing those because they see things differently then you
            Ha...well...yes....NO I'm only kidding.

            I think you misunderstood my post.
            I was saying ....take a fan(esp...nutty fan) of ANY game and they seem to put on their version of those goggles about that game.


            M.K.
            Knight165
            All gave some. Some gave all. 343

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            • rdelizo35
              Rookie
              • Jul 2008
              • 148

              #36
              Re: Fact or Fiction: Baseball Games Cometh Edition

              Originally posted by JohnnytheSkin
              A bit off topic, but what are the forum names of these writers? Since most of the OS discussion is IN the forums, knowing the backgrounds and opinions of these guys would be helpful.

              Maybe an Arena link for each one in their names or something?
              Hey JohnnytheSkin,

              I'm Ray Delizo, and I'm on here from time to time.

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              • btown12
                Rookie
                • Mar 2004
                • 322

                #37
                Re: Fact or Fiction: Baseball Games Cometh Edition

                OK, I just popped in MVP 05 and after playing a few games, I don't see it. Maybe I'm missing something but pretty much everything that's been mentioned (ball physics, hit variety, ball/bat contact, etc...) doesn't seem as great as everyone's making it out to be. Of course, this is the PS2 version...the PC version is a completely different animal.

                MVP was great for it's time (still one of my all time favs mainly because of the graphics, mini games and owner mode) but this seems to be a case of a 2 ft. long fish growing 6 inches every time the story is told...if you know what I mean Of course, no one's opinion can be wrong, you can choose to like whatever game you want, but I would rate MLB '08 higher than MVP '05, and thus believe MLB '09 will be even better.

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                • sgthalka
                  Rookie
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 159

                  #38
                  Re: Fact or Fiction: Baseball Games Cometh Edition

                  When people get all misty-eyed about MVP '05, they tend to gloss over the up-and-to-the-right insta-HRs and the pinpoint pitching accuracy with identical breaks every throw.

                  I loved the stadium creator, though.

                  The Show would have eclipsed MVP in 2006 were it not for bugs.

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                  • redsoxfan2434
                    Rookie
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 1

                    #39
                    theres no doubt mvp 2005 was the best at the time, but its been 4 years man. Unbelievable graphics, some new features, and RTTS make it impossible for MVP to match it. However, if EA had these 4 years to improve the game, MVP 2009 (if it existed) would blow THE SHOW out of the water.

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                    • sooners52794
                      Rookie
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 177

                      #40
                      Originally posted by sgthalka
                      When people get all misty-eyed about MVP '05, they tend to gloss over the up-and-to-the-right insta-HRs and the pinpoint pitching accuracy with identical breaks every throw.

                      I loved the stadium creator, though.

                      The Show would have eclipsed MVP in 2006 were it not for bugs.
                      god i have never played mvp 05 but i want a game with a stadium or team creator (or both like in madden). it would b a bit arcade-like but it would freshen up any baseball game if it was good...i wonder why not many ppl ever talk about that

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                      • Chizzypoof
                        MVP
                        • Dec 2004
                        • 1651

                        #41
                        Re: Fact or Fiction: Baseball Games Cometh Edition

                        Originally posted by btown12
                        MVP was great for it's time (still one of my all time favs mainly because of the graphics, mini games and owner mode) but this seems to be a case of a 2 ft. long fish growing 6 inches every time the story is told...if you know what I mean Of course, no one's opinion can be wrong, you can choose to like whatever game you want, but I would rate MLB '08 higher than MVP '05, and thus believe MLB '09 will be even better.
                        I have to agree with you here. Even NFL 2k5 is not the same when I pop it in now compared to how I remember it. I did love MVP 05, but I remember one of the features of the game was the grass patterns. Hearing Kruk and Kuip talk about the grass before every game got annoying. I know it was a minor thing, but it still got to me.

                        MVP was great, but it's just speculation to say it would have continued it's dominance. It would definately have been beneficial to us to have the competition though.

                        P.S. Ichiro's swing was "dead on" in this series.

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                        • Shinyhubcaps
                          MVP
                          • Oct 2007
                          • 1786

                          #42
                          MVP 2005 was good, but let's re-think how they would fare today...

                          1.) MVP 2006 was marginally a step back. The rock-throw pitch meter was probably the only tangible gameplay sacrifice.

                          2.) Madden NFL AND NBA Live both did poorly on their first jumps to the PS3 and Xbox 360.

                          3.) Classic stadiums and alternate jerseys, as well as the stadium editor, would likely be cut for the new generation. I say this because alternates were cut from NBA Live, classic stadiums were cut from really all games, and the court creator in NBA Street was removed. It seems that with the upgrade in graphics, they wouldn't take the time to add back all of the accessory things.

                          I loved MLB 2005 for the PS2, but it may be like ESPN NFL 2K5 vs. All-Pro Football 2K8. Something gets lost in translation, and I highly doubt MVP could have recaptured the magic with the new consoles.

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                          • rckabillyRaider
                            MVP
                            • Jul 2008
                            • 4382

                            #43
                            Re: Fact or Fiction: Baseball Games Cometh Edition

                            Originally posted by boomhauertjs
                            The greatest baseball game ever? High Heat (either 2002 or 2003).
                            ouch!
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                            • btown12
                              Rookie
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 322

                              #44
                              Re: Fact or Fiction: Baseball Games Cometh Edition

                              Originally posted by rckabillyRaider
                              ouch!
                              Hahahaha, the end of that video is hilarious

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                              • hukasmokincaterpillar
                                Rookie
                                • Mar 2005
                                • 105

                                #45
                                Re: Fact or Fiction: Baseball Games Cometh Edition

                                I dunno, I think some of you guys are selling Show's ball physics and hit variety rather short. Maybe in '07 and years past, but the last few iterations have caught up IMO (if not surpassed). Its early to say but going by the '09 demo it seems they've made another considerable leap in this category. I've been consistently impressed with the hit variety, how it travels off the bat depending on swing and location, the foul balls, variation in trajectory and velocity et al. Granted I haven't fired up MPV in quite awhile, but from what I remember the bat to ball physics certainly had their own share of quirky rough edges (up on the stick anyone?).

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