MLB 09: The Show - Impressions

[wsu_gb23]

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I'm playing on HOF, and am 2-0 in my Dodgers franchise. The first game I won 2-1, and the second I won 5-0.



The only problem I'm having is that I've struck out 11 and 10 times respectively. I think I can improve there, but other than that, it feels really good.

I find myself striking out quite a bit as well, but that doesn't bother me too much. I struck out 8 times against Halladay in a complete game shutout. 8 times seemed about right to me. I also had a game where I struck out 10 times against Peavy. Both of these games were with the White Sox.

Dominate pitchers do get a lot of K's in real baseball, so I don't mind the K's.

[rudyjuly2]

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Pitching is done very well in the Show. Its not a simple system but rather something that needs to be learned over time.

http://www.operationsports.com/rudyj...g-in-the-show/

[Segagendude]

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And that is where you are going wrong. Full Power on pitches = less control on your pitches.

You may get maximum movement on them, but what good is a 4 seem fastball if you chuck it over the plate.

So, I would say that you need to find a happy medium of speed and control instead of loading up on every pitch and trying to strike everyone out, especially with runners on the bases.

Ok, you may be onto something. The pitch meter----I ALWAYS hit "X" when the line's in the red, never the yellow or blue.
Fastballs, I assumed,needed to be thrown with power.
The only time I hit the yellow is on curveballs or sinkers.(Trying to make that break happen sooner)
So, my fastballs come in at 90+ MPH, but they're always in the heart of the zone. Have I been wrong in doing this?

BTW, as a further experiment, I bumped up to All Star. Now, my hitting's a bit better, but pitching, well.......lolol.

[RogueHominid]

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I find myself striking out quite a bit as well, but that doesn't bother me too much. I struck out 8 times against Halladay in a complete game shutout. 8 times seemed about right to me. I also had a game where I struck out 10 times against Peavy. Both of these games were with the White Sox.

Dominate pitchers do get a lot of K's in real baseball, so I don't mind the K's.

No doubt. It feels right to me. I could tell that I left some walks out there and chased some pitches. My K's come when I get in a hurry and rush at-bats.

Great pitchers are gonna get theirs. I think my numbers will be right so long as I stay disciplined. Some days guys just have great stuff, some days they're hittable.

I really like the different deliveries. Chris Young's for SD was hard as hell for me to pick up. It took me like 5 innings to get used to him. The ball just seems to come out of nowhere and be up on you in a hurry. Guess it helps to be 6'10"!

[Pared]

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Ok, you may be onto something. The pitch meter----I ALWAYS hit "X" when the line's in the red, never the yellow or blue.
Fastballs, I assumed,needed to be thrown with power.
The only time I hit the yellow is on curveballs or sinkers.(Trying to make that break happen sooner)
So, my fastballs come in at 90+ MPH, but they're always in the heart of the zone. Have I been wrong in doing this?

BTW, as a further experiment, I bumped up to All Star. Now, my hitting's a bit better, but pitching, well.......lolol.

You do not always have to have maximum effort to have an effective pitch.

Maybe that's where guys are going wrong.

[Skyboxer]

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You do not always have to have maximum effort to have an effective pitch.

Maybe that's where guys are going wrong.

Yep. When I used to use the meter I could throw a curver (For example) 4 times and depending on where I stopped the meter I could get different results with break, speed etc...

I really think I'm staying with Legend mode just to see how the seadon pans out.... Should be interesting.

[EnigmaNemesis]

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Yeah, this is amazing stuff to hear. I usually play on HOF and am playing on VET right now. Why? The game is tougher this year, pure and simple. You actually have to learn and concentrate on the fundamentals of baseball. This was discussed in San Diego, and the devs were right. Hallelujah!

Amen! I am loving it!

[Marino]

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Man I just played a beautiful game against the Astros. Then Broxton had to blow the lead. Damn you Lance Berkman!!! Great game though.

[kt-od]

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I find myself striking out quite a bit as well, but that doesn't bother me too much. I struck out 8 times against Halladay in a complete game shutout. 8 times seemed about right to me. I also had a game where I struck out 10 times against Peavy. Both of these games were with the White Sox.

Dominate pitchers do get a lot of K's in real baseball, so I don't mind the K's.

Zambrano struck me out 14 times last night in a CG shutout. Needless to say, I still haven't gotten this hitting thing down either this year.

Man I just played a beautiful game against the Astros. Then Broxton had to blow the lead. Damn you Lance Berkman!!! Great game though.

Heck yeah, Big Puma in effect.

[Marino]

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Zambrono struck me out 14 times last night in a CG shutout. Needless to say, I still haven't gotten this hitting thing down either this year.



Heck yeah, Big Puma in effect.

See I wasn't even thinking about the "comeback" A.I., I was playing with my friend, and was like damn they have Tejada, Berkman and Lee coming up in the 9th, I doubt Broxton can do it, and of course he doesnt. I think instead of worrying about this comeback A.I., we should put faith in our relievers.

[kt-od]

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See I wasn't even thinking about the "comeback" A.I., I was playing with my friend, and was like damn they have Tejada, Berkman and Lee coming up in the 9th, I doubt Broxton can do it, and of course he doesnt. I think instead of worrying about this comeback A.I., we should put faith in our relievers.

True.. I don't think there is comeback AI. I mean if you have the heart of the lineup coming up in the 9th the likelihood of a save being blown is pretty good.

[Marino]

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True.. I don't think there is comeback AI. I mean if you have the heart of the lineup coming up in the 9th the likelihood of a save being blown is pretty good.

Yeah, and once I blew the save, Broxton got out of the jam. you Broxton. lol

[Bronk_Bonin]

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Ok, you may be onto something. The pitch meter----I ALWAYS hit "X" when the line's in the red, never the yellow or blue.
Fastballs, I assumed,needed to be thrown with power.
The only time I hit the yellow is on curveballs or sinkers.(Trying to make that break happen sooner)
So, my fastballs come in at 90+ MPH, but they're always in the heart of the zone. Have I been wrong in doing this?

BTW, as a further experiment, I bumped up to All Star. Now, my hitting's a bit better, but pitching, well.......lolol.

Segagendude,

You need to treat the fastball just like every other pitch in your arsenal. If you're always maxing out the fastball you'll:

a. burn out your pitchers stamina much quicker, resulting in a gassed pitcher, who have trouble locating later in the game.

b. the more you max out pitches the more you're going to lose location, even if you're hitting the meter accurately, when in the red, the pitches will stray from your intended location leaving pitches over the plate.

c. you need to vary the speed of your fastball just like every other pitch. If every low maxed out fastball is 90 MPH and every high riding fastball is 93 MPH then the AI is going to increase their timing, especially after seeing a pitcher 2-4 times during the game. I tend to max out the fastball when I'm looking for a K in a crucial situation.

Another note. When the AI comes back against me in the later innings it's because I have a new RP in the game and I don't have the meter timed correctly. I find that I miss location A LOT when a new RP comes in and I get his timing down. Sometimes by the time I get the timing down he's already in trouble and his confidence is low and my lead disappears, this is total on me, and not some comeback code. You have to be ultra fine with your location later in the game with the game on the line especially if you have a pitcher in a tight situation with low clutch ratings.

[abbbsinthe]

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Not to be mean but I think most of you guys are smoking some funny stuff! If you dont think there is a serious problem with A.I. comeback etc you are in complete denial. Im 2-8 with the Yanks in every game the opposition has come through in the 7th inning its almost humorous at this point. I dont want to hear all the, "well its possible to comeback etc etc" Last game Joba pitched a gem through 7 then I bring in Veras cause Joba was meterless for fatigue. Sure enough! walk (the walk was silly too considering I didnt pitch in the red and hit the line perfectly every time) Then a double by Navarro then a homer by yeah Iwamura come on! after they score then Veras shut him down. Heres Veras season so far 3 games 3 Ip 6 er 2 bb 4 K's all runs scored in the 7th. I also brought in Rivera once in the seventh just to test this out and sure enough he gave up a single and a homer. I also dont want to hear the usual maybe you just arent that good. BS! Ive prob hit more homers on Legend than anyone in here. My pitching is fantastic until i hit the 7th. Also hitting gets suspect past the 7th for me hmmmm coincidence? Its sad I really want to love this game. Just a couple of days ago I was pulling my hair out just to get the game last week. Pathetically its just not a realistic game at all. Knight and Jim you guys I respect the most in this forum but I just cant figure out how you guys arent seeing this? And dont get me wrong I want to lose games without a doubt but this is silly. Id rather just get pounded one game. I cant stand these constant loses by 1 or 2 runs that occur past the 7th. I mean I cant imagine its possible to ever shut the CPU out unless maybe I try not to score any runs until the 9th inning during a home game. If it wasnt for the prospects of Knights roster and slider tweaks that are to come Id definitely return this game and stick to mlb 08. Sorry guys I know Im bein a troll just telling you how I see this game. If you are all having success with this game then more power to ya!

[dmrich28]

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there is no AI comeback,(unless you have turned on somehow) it's in your head or something.
here is a screen of my standings after my 1st 3 games as a Brewer team..break out the brooms. All-Star, default sliders..Knight's test roster



Dave