Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

[swaldo]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

Or perhaps switch to classic pitching? When you're pitcher loses it the pitch meter can get really difficult to nail your release point. Has anyone tried this?

[rudyjuly2]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

Or perhaps switch to classic pitching? When you're pitcher loses it the pitch meter can get really difficult to nail your release point. Has anyone tried this?

I only use Classic. I switched in the past because Classic was harder but when I tried Meter this year it felt impossible so I've stuck to Classic. My brother uses meter and sees these rallies by the cpu as well as a lot of passed balls and is also frustrated. I think some of these things may be related to the pitch system you use.

[swaldo]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

Can you please explain how classic works? I don't understand it. It appears you only have to hit X to start the wind up and hold for max power. However, how long do you hold for max, min and med speeds?

[DarthRambo]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

I use classic, with api on. all i do is tap X to where catcher suggests. Ive gotten a/ot better at controlling the rallies late now. the confidence meter is where its all at. i also turn pitch cursor, strike zone and hot zones off too. Had walked 2 straight batters in 9th to load bases with 2 outs. confidence meter was ZERO so i brough in another pitcher to get last out. 3 pitches later it was popped up. just really have to keep an eye on the meter. use mound visits for starters ear/y in gm if they drop. they need a slider for confidence effectiveness tho i agree but its not bad if u get the hang of it. i dropped throwing errors down all the way on the slikder too.

[swaldo]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

Wouldn't tapping X be the equivalent of throwing a BP fastball? I thought holding X controlled the speed & power of the pitch along with fatigue? Since there's no meter though I have no idea how much power is being used while pitching in classic mode. I feel like I'm missing something...

[HustlinOwl]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

Wouldn't tapping X be the equivalent of throwing a BP fastball? I thought holding X controlled the speed & power of the pitch along with fatigue? Since there's no meter though I have no idea how much power is being used while pitching in classic mode. I feel like I'm missing something...

Depends on where you are throwing it in the zone.

[DarthRambo]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

I just tap and does just fine to me. pitch speed go up and down for same pitches. dont see what holding it would do. i use api tho.. heres my line for the gm im playing now. but been using classic for a ton of gms now.

C. Zambrano 4.1ip 2h 0er 1bb 6k

[nemesis04]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

You can tap or hold both are acceptable.

[rudyjuly2]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

Wouldn't tapping X be the equivalent of throwing a BP fastball? I thought holding X controlled the speed & power of the pitch along with fatigue? Since there's no meter though I have no idea how much power is being used while pitching in classic mode. I feel like I'm missing something...

You aren't really missing anything lol. The longer you hold it the more powerful the pitch but you also lose control. Honestly, I've been playing with Classic for quite awhile and I don't know exactly what is the best amount to hold the button. There is no visual cue to let you know what is best other than the mph on your fastball.

I usually hold every pitch around 1/2 a second to a full second (not sure exactly but a good press). I might take a little off it on a potential ball 4 pitch but I never just tap it. Sometimes I put a little more mustard on a fastball up and in for a strikeout pitch. But I never really know if what I did was a good or bad thing lol. Judging the speed of your 4 seam fastball does help you figure it out.

After you release the pitch in Classic, its final location depends a lot more on your pitcher attributes than when you actually released the button. Sometimes its accurate and sometimes its not. You never know which is nice. Meter has attributes built in but your human timing has a much greater influence on the quality of the pitch. Pitching with classic is more about strategy than user input.

[nemesis04]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

You aren't really missing anything lol. The longer you hold it the more powerful the pitch but you also lose control. Honestly, I've been playing with Classic for quite awhile and I don't know exactly what is the best amount to hold the button. There is no visual cue to let you know what is best other than the mph on your fastball.

How come you are not following my tutorial I made for this a while back? huh,huh?

[rudyjuly2]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

How come you are not following my tutorial I made for this a while back? huh,huh?

Link please! So many threads that I may have missed it.

[nemesis04]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

Link please! So many threads that I may have missed it.

I posted this last year for people who were having trouble understanding classic. I prefer the button press over the tap.

Full motion

Keeping the X button pressed down, let up at three different points of the pitcher's windup to determine velocity.

Slow velocity: Hold X and release when the pitcher just starts his leg lift.

Medium velocity: Hold X and release when the pitcher is at his max leg lift.

Maximum velocity: Hold X and release when the pitcher finishes his leg lift and brings his leg towards the plate.

From the stretch

Slow velocity: Hold X and release when the pitcher is in mid lift of his motion.

Medium velocity: Hold X and release when the pitcher is in mid stride towards home.

Maxium velocity: Hold X and release when the pitcher has planted his foot towards home and is just starting to bring his arm forward to release the pitch.

Note: If you hold the X button through the entire pitcher's motion you will have max velocity and break but you will lose control and the ball will track away from your desired location.

[DarthRambo]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

nice explanation, thanks! but when by just tapping it Zambrano has pitch 6 inning, only allowed 2 hits, 1 walk and 8 strikeouts... i think i'll just tap x lol... holding it and knowing when to release will get confusing and too much thinking involved haha

[rudyjuly2]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

Thanks Nem! I probably do a short hold most of the time.

[nemesis04]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

nice explanation, thanks! but when by just tapping it Zambrano has pitch 6 inning, only allowed 2 hits, 1 walk and 8 strikeouts... i think i'll just tap x lol... holding it and knowing when to release will get confusing and too much thinking involved haha

You can do either. To me I like the button press because in my mind I know power is building as the button is held through the pitcher's motion. Just personal preference.