MLB 09 The Show Patch Announcement From the MLB Development Team

[DrUrsus]

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I am new to MLB 09 the Show and this forum. I just bought a PS3 for this game. So far I love the game I just have some questions and hope someone will answer.

Why do the lineups keep getting changed. I play the Phillies and they always have Howard hitting 3rd and Utley hitting 4th even if I change it the computer changes it back in franchise. Is the update going to fix this? Also loading rosters online for minor league players losing the historical stats?

My other thing I am wondering is why do pitchers lose all of their energy after pitching 70 pitches? I mean guys like Santana, Beckett and other power pitchers who can throw 100+ pitches.

Why does the computers outfielders seem like they can fly and catch every gap shot and deep line drives near the wall. Any way to fix that with a slider?

Again I am sure some of these questions have been answered but it would be a great help to me to understand this game and what I can change with it. Also, when is this update expected i've been putting off my franchise for two weeks now waiting.

Yea, put OF speed to 0 or 1, drop OF arm strength down about 1 or 2 from default.
I don't have a problem at all with SP fatigue, personally.
Don't know for sure if the update will fix the lineup/rotation problem (this problem is well documented all over this forum, lol), but it is the single biggest problem for me personally. It honestly drives me bonkers! Why does this happen? Your guess is as good as mine, but there really seems to be a LOT of database problems with the game this year.
I recently started a franchise with the last SCEA update (the one before this newer one). All the historical stats looked fine. 3 games into my franchise, in the paper, it shows that C. Villanueva of the Brewers broke the all time saves lead with 500+ saves. I don't think he was ever a closer before this year, lol. So I had to trash that franchise, and start all over.

[DrUrsus]

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I truly don't understand why we can't get more information. I work for a software company, and whenever we are working on releasing a patch or service pack for our software, we have a general idea of enhancements and a time frame for when it will be done, and we let our customers know as soon as we know anything. The only thing I can think of is that SCEA thinks that they can't fix some of the more prevalent issues, and therefore do not want to list them from the get go. However, as members of the MLB community, I think we should be given more updates and details into the process. We have all waited patiently for these issues to be fixed, and someone from SCEA should be able to answer some of our questions at this point. They should have a strong idea of whether or not we have to restart our season/franchise. You'd have to think that when Russell started this post, they were probably already a couple of weeks into the whole process, and its already been 2 weeks since he started the thread. We STILL have not gotten updates. I understand that things have to go through the QA process and what not, but as a developer, I also know that at this point, you should already know what your limitations are and what you can accomplish.
What's the deal?

They were probably told not to comment until they knew for sure what they could/would fix. I'm just happy their working on a patch, and hope to God that it includes a lineup/rotation "glitch" fix.

[DrUrsus]

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Has anyone figured out a way to control these damn rosters in season/franchise mode? I see that there have been some patches discussed, have any been released yet? It's really annoying some of the lineups the cpu throws at me. Please let me know. Thanks. -Dan

I can tell you I have tried EVERY trick I have ever used in any game.

Here is one thing you can do, but it only works for your team and team you are playing against.

If you have 2 controllers move one over to your team and the other controller to the other team. Set your lineups, start the game, and once the game starts, press pause, controller select, and move the 2nd controller back to the middle for CPU control. The CPU will take over.
If you only have one controller you can try moving it to the opposite team, and then select their lineup. After the game starts move it back to your team. I am not sure about this one since I haven't tested it. Your team may get messed up, I don't know. Give it a try if you only have one controller. If that doesn't work, try going farther into the selection process without starting the game with your team, and then back out a little and do the other team, and leave the controller on the other team, start the game, and move it back after the game starts. I know that's hard to follow. If you have 2 controllers, its easy.
Of course this doesn't work for any other lineups/rotations except the games being played.

[johnreyes]

Re: MLB 09 The Show Patch Announcement From the MLB Development Team

Jim, I understand you've worked with these guys and I only said I feel like they are stringing me along. It's unlikely that that would do that, but you also have to understand the frustration in this community.

[sarge81]

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And they are stringing us along because.......?

For what it's worth, bugs and glitches cannot be fixed unless they are recreated exactly how they happened. We were shown how this works at the event. SCEA has asked us to help them and there is a thread for this. SCEA has been communicating with this community for years and it should be appreciated, I'd think. Ever look at the CREDITS when they roll at the end of the game?

No matter of complaining in this thread fixes anything. If you can't be patient though, continue on, but stringing us along?

You're right Jim, they're not stringing us along. However, if you knew a thing or two about the development process and running a business, you'd know that SCEA isn't doing anything special here. They do have top notch customer service, but anyone that is running a successful business needs to have keep in touch with and have good rapport with their customers. You guys glorify these developers when IT IS THEIR JOB to create a great game and they get paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to do so. If they didn't make such a great game, no one would buy it and they'd be out of business. Let's stop the a$$ kissing here and start getting updates. I'm not asking for a play by play on the nitty gritty details of this patch, but what I am asking for is something like this:
"The patch has been in progress for the past couple of weeks, and we are currently in the QA phase. At this point, we feel like you will not have to restart your season, but a more defnitive answer will be given once this process is complete. We hope to be posting the patch in the next week or two."
At my company, we send out emails like that to our customers ALL THE TIME, and I don't think that it would be too difficult for Russell to give us an update like that. We all paid $60+ for this game and do so every year. WE pay their salaries. WE are the customer, and the customer is ALWAYS right.

[rudyjuly2]

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You're right Jim, they're not stringing us along. However, if you knew a thing or two about the development process and running a business, you'd know that SCEA isn't doing anything special here. They do have top notch customer service, but anyone that is running a successful business needs to have keep in touch with and have good rapport with their customers. You guys glorify these developers when IT IS THEIR JOB to create a great game and they get paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to do so. If they didn't make such a great game, no one would buy it and they'd be out of business. Let's stop the a$$ kissing here and start getting updates. I'm not asking for a play by play on the nitty gritty details of this patch, but what I am asking for is something like this:
"The patch has been in progress for the past couple of weeks, and we are currently in the QA phase. At this point, we feel like you will not have to restart your season, but a more defnitive answer will be given once this process is complete. We hope to be posting the patch in the next week or two."
At my company, we send out emails like that to our customers ALL THE TIME, and I don't think that it would be too difficult for Russell to give us an update like that. We all paid $60+ for this game and do so every year. WE pay their salaries. WE are the customer, and the customer is ALWAYS right.

I agree. Say what you want about 2K, they have released two patches for their game and were giving out updates as they went along.

[countryboy]

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You're right Jim, they're not stringing us along. However, if you knew a thing or two about the development process and running a business, you'd know that SCEA isn't doing anything special here. They do have top notch customer service, but anyone that is running a successful business needs to have keep in touch with and have good rapport with their customers. You guys glorify these developers when IT IS THEIR JOB to create a great game and they get paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to do so. If they didn't make such a great game, no one would buy it and they'd be out of business. Let's stop the a$$ kissing here and start getting updates. I'm not asking for a play by play on the nitty gritty details of this patch, but what I am asking for is something like this:
"The patch has been in progress for the past couple of weeks, and we are currently in the QA phase. At this point, we feel like you will not have to restart your season, but a more defnitive answer will be given once this process is complete. We hope to be posting the patch in the next week or two."
At my company, we send out emails like that to our customers ALL THE TIME, and I don't think that it would be too difficult for Russell to give us an update like that. We all paid $60+ for this game and do so every year. WE pay their salaries. WE are the customer, and the customer is ALWAYS right.

you'll never be a successful business if you follow that motto. Never.

Look I understand people want to know what is and isn't going to be fixed, because it could mean the difference of starting a franchise now or waiting, I understand that. But at the same time, what good is jumping on the message board and complaining about the lack of info going to do? Its not going to make the patch come any faster, and I doubt a few bellyaches are going to change the minds of SCEA.

Every business handles various practices different ways. SCEA chooses to wait until everything is complete and finalized with a patch before disclosing details. Honestly, if I was in their shoes, I would do the same thing. The only thing worse than having a bug/glitch is to promise your customers that its going to be fixed and then not be able to. Or to promise a timeframe and miss the date.

Lying/misleading customers is the WORST thing a business can do, outside of blantantly cheating them. It seems that SCEA chooses to wait to disclose info until they are 100% sure, in order to avoid the backlash of a misguided/mislead customer base.

[sarge81]

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Wow countryboy, why am i not surprised that you would answer the post in this way? I don't do much posting on here, but I do a lot of reading, and it seems like all you do is kiss SCEA's a$$, and make condescending remarks to those ppl that don't agree with SCEA. Seriously dude, get over yourself.

[tabarnes19_SDS]

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I believe it is sony's policy not to release info until after everything is wrapped up. Look at firmware updates usually it is all rumors till one day there is a blog and a prompt to download.

The developers also have to follow company policy since SONY pays their salary!

[rudyjuly2]

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I believe it is sony's policy not to release info until after everything is wrapped up. Look at firmware updates usually it is all rumors till one day there is a blog and a prompt to download.

The developers also have to follow company policy since SONY pays their salary!

And people are venting over that policy. Common place on a message board and I have no problem with it (since I'm doing it too :wink: ).

[johnreyes]

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OS veterans seem to talk down to people who dare say one bad thing about the developers. All I wanted was any info on how the patch is going because it has been 2 weeks since they announced that are working on a patch. I did not ask for a developer diary, I did not ask when it will be completed, all I asked for was an update. These developers should not be put on a pedestal like what most people here have done.

[countryboy]

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Wow countryboy, why am i not surprised that you would answer the post in this way? I don't do much posting on here, but I do a lot of reading, and it seems like all you do is kiss SCEA's a$$, and make condescending remarks to those ppl that don't agree with SCEA. Seriously dude, get over yourself.

So my post was kissing SCEA's a$$? Wow! Care to tell me how? Care to point out others? Seems you've been taking note of them, so share a few. I have no problems with it. Point out to me where I was wrong.

[green94]

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I've honestly played this game ~10 times since March 3rd. Part of me wishes they would have kept this game a month longer so they could have delivered on their "better AI lineups in Franchise" and fixed the majority of the bugs that we are seeing today. With competition, I'm assuming that will never be the case, but I guess I'm shocked that a game made by SCEA (especially this team) would have so many bugs holding it back. The past 2 years this game has been near flawless in that department. I guess the more things you add, the greater the chance to encounter some of this stuff.

I do feel like we haven't heard much from the dev team at all this year, I'm not sure if this is why Russell is posting more or not, but it was always nice of them to drop in and say a few things here and there. Nevertheless, let's hope they drop us a line soon enough detailing fixes for the majority of the stuff holding this game back.

[countryboy]

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OS veterans seem to talk down to people who dare say one bad thing about the developers. All I wanted was any info on how the patch is going because it has been 2 weeks since they announced that are working on a patch. I did not ask for a developer diary, I did not ask when it will be completed, all I asked for was an update. These developers should not be put on a pedestal like what most people here have done.

What you consider putting on a pedestal, I consider showing respect. But to each their own.

[rudyjuly2]

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What you consider putting on a pedestal, I consider showing respect. But to each their own.

Sorry CB, but I completely agree with the other poster. Devs ARE put on a pedestal in the Show forums and dissenting opinions are rejected with extreme prejudice. Sometimes people are a bit disrespectful but that happens in EVERY forum and thread on OS. But the moment it happens in the Show forums, people get called out to a degree I don't see anywhere else.

The Community day interaction has left many here feeling as though they have a personal connection with these guys (some do) and I think that has tainted the objectivity. That's just my opinion but I do think it gets out of hand in these forums. One mod won't even moderate here anymore because of it.