Three Things MVP 05 Still Does Better

[jim416]

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What facts did I get wrong Jim? Brian attempted to say that PCI mimicked MVP 05's left stick 1:1 influence- this is flat out not true. PCI may work to influence the direction of the ball on certain pitches (even Brian admits that "there are other factors" that go into where you hit the ball besides PCI influence), but MVP would attempt to take the ball the direction you wanted on every pitch. If you wanted to try and pull an outside pitch, no matter how ill advised, at least you had the option to try in MVP- your batters arms through the zone were completely under your control. There is a huge difference between the two hitting models, and my article was pointing out that I preferred the control MVP gave me at the plate.

I don't really have an issue with people knocking the article, but trust me when I say that there was a lot of research and play testing that occurred before it was written. My facts are not incorrect- Brian is incorrect by making users believe left stick (pci) influence in The Show is true 1:1 swing influence like in MVP.

Not you, the person who wrote the article. The problem with this entire thread is people aren't even bothering to read what the dev wrote regarding the hitting. They're taking what was factually wrong, running with it, and like Brian said, it becomes an urban legend.

This thread should be moved to the MVP forums as this would have never survived this long had I, or anyone else posted it. It's become a "What's Better MVP or The Show". Just saying, if I would have posted this it would have been closed, and rightfully so, and we would have been told that there is an "impressions thread", lol. That's all.

It's taken on a life of it's own, MVP vs. The Show.

And this is even more overated than MVP. This game is even worst than last year The Show (Glitch) version.

[Bumble14]

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Not you, the person who wrote the article. The problem with this entire thread is people aren't even bothering to read what the dev wrote regarding the hitting. They're taking what was factually wrong, running with it, and like Brian said, it becomes an urban legend.

This thread should be moved to the MVP forums as this would have never survived this long had I, or anyone else posted it. It's become a "What's Better MVP or The Show". Just saying, if I would have posted this it would have been closed, and rightfully so, and we would have been told that there is an "impressions thread", lol. That's all.

It's taken on a life of it's own, MVP vs. The Show.

Jim-

I wrote the article- I'm Christian McLeod.

There was nothing factually wrong about what I wrote about The Show's hitting system. The bottom line is that PCI is not 1:1 left stick hitting like in MVP. That is EXACTLY what I talked about in my article, and even in Brian's response he admits that along with PCI there are other factors that go into into what determines where a ball is hit in The Show. I never said one thing in the article that was not factual about the hitting system in The Show.

I agree with you though in that people are not reading this article. What I think many people are not understanding is that I said I enjoy the game immensely, and have it on my short list of GOTY. That being said- there are certain areas that MVP still does better than The Show, and those were clearly defined in my article.

[bkrich83]

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While you hope they implement those MVP features you prefer, I really hope they never will. And I could too write an article "with a lot of previous research", and demostrate how everything on The Show is so much better than MVP except fielding.

Agreed. I despised MVP's hitting system. It would be very disappointing if it was implemented in The Show.

[bkrich83]

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Not you, the person who wrote the article. The problem with this entire thread is people aren't even bothering to read what the dev wrote regarding the hitting. They're taking what was factually wrong, running with it, and like Brian said, it becomes an urban legend.

This thread should be moved to the MVP forums as this would have never survived this long had I, or anyone else posted it. It's become a "What's Better MVP or The Show". Just saying, if I would have posted this it would have been closed, and rightfully so, and we would have been told that there is an "impressions thread", lol. That's all.

It's taken on a life of it's own, MVP vs. The Show.

Agreed on all points...

[jim416]

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and even in Brian's response he admits that along with PCI [b]there are other factors that go into into what determines where a ball is hit in The Show[b].

Which was overlooked and is being missed. Guess I just can't figure out how this can be posted, but no 2k vs. Show comparisons, and we've got one thread that only certain people can post in. Scratching my somewhat bald head.

No problem, said my piece.

And this is even more overated than MVP. This game is even worst than last year The Show (Glitch) version.

[Bumble14]

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Which was overlooked and is being missed. Guess I just can't figure out how this can be posted, but no 2k vs. Show comparisons, and we've got one thread that only certain people can post in. Scratching my somewhat bald head.

No problem, said my piece.

I guess to answer your question, whenever we post a feature article on the site, it normally ends up in the forum of the game it is written about.

Article was never meant to be a MVP vs. The Show, but rather a closer look at the 3 areas mentioned.

Hope this clears things up as to why this article was placed into this forum.

Love your writings by the way. I know it's off topic, but wanted to let you know.

[jpup]

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I guess to answer your question, whenever we post a feature article on the site, it normally ends up in the forum of the game it is written about.

Article was never meant to be a MVP vs. The Show, but rather a closer look at the 3 areas mentioned.

Hope this clears things up as to why this article was placed into this forum.

Love your writings by the way. I know it's off topic, but wanted to let you know.

How can you write an article called "Three Things MVP 05 Still Does Better" and say it isn't supposed to be MVP vs. The Show? Silliness.

[bsb13]

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I think it was a good article.....the problem is/was it was put in the show forums...which is a big mistake. This thread should have been put in the MVP forum.

[k_bassuka]

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I think it was a good article.....the problem is/was it was put in the show forums...which is a big mistake. This thread should have been put in the MVP forum.

What's the difference of placing it in the MVP forum? If you don't like people to point out the truth about this game just don't read the forum, I believed that's what the forum is about for people to talk about what they like and what they don't like about a game. If you like this game better than anything you ever played good for you and you have the right to support the game but they're others that aren't so high on this game as you are, like me, I believe I was robbed yet again (3 years in a row) on a game that's half build and its repetitive, that's my thought. To suggest that people shouldn't complaint/ point out the games problems or weak areas is just ridiculous. Grow up.

[Woodweaver]

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What's the difference of placing it in the MVP forum? If you don't like people to point out the truth about this game just don't read the forum, I believed that's what the forum is about for people to talk about what they like and what they don't like about a game. If you like this game better than anything you ever played good for you and you have the right to support the game but they're others that aren't so high on this game as you are, like me, I believe I was robbed yet again (3 years in a row) on a game that's half build and its repetitive, that's my thought. To suggest that people shouldn't complaint/ point out the games problems or weak areas is just ridiculous. Grow up.

Half built? Robbed 3 years in a row? The truth?

[jim416]

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What's the difference of placing it in the MVP forum? If you don't like people to point out the truth about this game just don't read the forum, I believed that's what the forum is about for people to talk about what they like and what they don't like about a game. If you like this game better than anything you ever played good for you and you have the right to support the game but they're others that aren't so high on this game as you are, like me, I believe I was robbed yet again (3 years in a row) on a game that's half build and its repetitive, that's my thought. To suggest that people shouldn't complaint/ point out the games problems or weak areas is just ridiculous. Grow up.

We have been constantly reminded by the moderators on this site that threads like this ARE NOT ALLOWED. Pitting one game against another is not allowed. We have threads to point out complaints and impressions of this game. Might as well just start reposting the 2k vs. The Show threads, don't you think? If someone wants to point out the merits of MVP, put it in that forum, 2k the 2k forum, The Show here. Easy enough.

[bkrich83]

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Half built? Robbed 3 years in a row? The truth?

Yes, hyperbole at it's finest.

[mmorg]

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Jim-

I wrote the article- I'm Christian McLeod.

There was nothing factually wrong about what I wrote about The Show's hitting system. The bottom line is that PCI is not 1:1 left stick hitting like in MVP. That is EXACTLY what I talked about in my article, and even in Brian's response he admits that along with PCI there are other factors that go into into what determines where a ball is hit in The Show. I never said one thing in the article that was not factual about the hitting system in The Show.

I agree with you though in that people are not reading this article. What I think many people are not understanding is that I said I enjoy the game immensely, and have it on my short list of GOTY. That being said- there are certain areas that MVP still does better than The Show, and those were clearly defined in my article.

That hitting system is broken. The hitting system in MVP belongs in a video game not a true simulation like The Show.

[ochonflcinco85]

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i never played mvp,and i dont plan to,i love this game and thier needs to be some minor changes and thats it,im shure mvp was buggy(as ea always makes games)and besides you talk about the shows unrealistic hiiting system,but thiers an easy solution,and it happens to be the most realistic you can make hitting in any baseball game as of now,and thats simply to use you mind and skill and turn off that guess pitch grap,use you own skill

[Keith121212]

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How did I know Bumble wrote this article

Because of how wrong it is.

The hitting in MVP was very unrealistic and more importantly way too easy so of course there are a number of individual mistakenly believing that the hitting in MVP was good, let alone even comparable to how good it is in "The Show"