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  • jim416
    Banned
    • Feb 2003
    • 10606

    #46
    Re: Three Things MVP 05 Still Does Better

    Originally posted by Art1bk
    I feel MVP had more hit variations.
    Disagree 100% and I loved MVP PC.

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    • nemesis04
      RIP Ty My Buddy
      • Feb 2004
      • 13530

      #47
      Re: Three Things MVP 05 Still Does Better

      The only aspect I remotely miss from MVP is the fielding. That area needs some major attention. I think the pitching in the Show blows away what MVP had in terms of the pitching meter.

      I did not like the hitting in MVP at all the up for a fly ball down for a grounder was lame. I much prefer aiming the left stick to track the pitch. The PCI still needs to be smaller, it is too big.
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      • mikeveli20
        Rookie
        • Jul 2007
        • 355

        #48
        If I had to choose only 1 of the 3 things you mentioned to be implemented into The Show 2010, it would definitely be the hitting. I agree, there is nothing like the hitting in MVP 05 and it really was incredible.

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        • nemesis04
          RIP Ty My Buddy
          • Feb 2004
          • 13530

          #49
          Re: Three Things MVP 05 Still Does Better

          Originally posted by jim416
          Disagree 100% and I loved MVP PC.
          The hit variety in the Show has improved tremendously but there were some hit types that were in MVP that are absent from the Show.
          “The saddest part of life is when someone who gave you your best memories becomes a memory”

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          • ehh
            Hall Of Fame
            • Mar 2003
            • 28959

            #50
            Re: Three Things MVP 05 Still Does Better

            Originally posted by Art1bk
            I feel MVP had more hit variations.
            MVP was pop up, line drive and HR city. Very few weak grounds and no bloopers. I loved the hitting in MVP but the hit variety was poor, by comparison MLB '09 is better but even that pales in comparison to MLB 2K4 IMO. Why can't a baseball game get bloopers right these days? I never hit a single blooper in any version of MVP or The Show.
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            • Townie33
              Rookie
              • Feb 2005
              • 130

              #51
              Hitter's Eye was pure genius! Trying to "read" the pitch out the pitcher's hand was the best. The different colors for the different pitches was sweet. Why can't we have that again?

              But I do LOVE THIS game!
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              • bsb13
                Banned
                • Mar 2005
                • 3439

                #52
                Re: Three Things MVP 05 Still Does Better

                Originally posted by ehh
                MVP was pop up, line drive and HR city. Very few weak grounds and no bloopers. I loved the hitting in MVP but the hit variety was poor, by comparison MLB '09 is better but even that pales in comparison to MLB 2K4 IMO. Why can't a baseball game get bloopers right these days? I never hit a single blooper in any version of MVP or The Show.
                I dont know man, The Show is pretty line drive happy itself and i dont know if I have seen a true high chopper yet. Also, in the show all my bloopers are from jam shots that go to opposite field...I have nevers seen a pulled bloop hit.

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                • nemesis04
                  RIP Ty My Buddy
                  • Feb 2004
                  • 13530

                  #53
                  Re: Three Things MVP 05 Still Does Better

                  Originally posted by Townie33
                  Hitter's Eye was pure genius! Trying to "read" the pitch out the pitcher's hand was the best. The different colors for the different pitches was sweet. Why can't we have that again?

                  But I do LOVE THIS game!
                  Never knew why so many people loved this feature? Basically a feature that tipped the batter to the cpu's pitch.

                  On another note hope all is well Townie!
                  “The saddest part of life is when someone who gave you your best memories becomes a memory”

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                  • bsb13
                    Banned
                    • Mar 2005
                    • 3439

                    #54
                    Re: Three Things MVP 05 Still Does Better

                    Originally posted by nemesis04
                    Never knew why so many people loved this feature? Basically a feature that tipped the batter to the cpu's pitch.

                    On another note hope all is well Townie!
                    It was supposed to simulate a hitter reading the seams of the ball (which happens in real life). I thought it was a good attempt but it just didn't quite cut it.

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                    • ehh
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Mar 2003
                      • 28959

                      #55
                      Re: Three Things MVP 05 Still Does Better

                      Originally posted by bsb13
                      I dont know man, The Show is pretty line drive happy itself and i dont know if I have seen a true high chopper yet. Also, in the show all my bloopers are from jam shots that go to opposite field...I have nevers seen a pulled bloop hit.
                      I definitely agree with you, there are way, way too many line drives in The Show but overall I feel the hit variety is better. There are a more realistic number of weak grounders and IF hits in MLB '09.
                      "You make your name in the regular season, and your fame in the postseason." - Clyde Frazier

                      "Beware of geeks bearing formulas." - Warren Buffet

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                      • nemesis04
                        RIP Ty My Buddy
                        • Feb 2004
                        • 13530

                        #56
                        Re: Three Things MVP 05 Still Does Better

                        Originally posted by bsb13
                        It was supposed to simulate a hitter reading the seams of the ball (which happens in real life). I thought it was a good attempt but it just didn't quite cut it.
                        I know what it was supposed to do but it seemed like a crutch to me. A batter cannot read ever single pitch.
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                        • Brian SCEA
                          Senior AI Programmer - MLB: The Show
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 293

                          #57
                          Re: Three Things MVP 05 Still Does Better

                          Originally posted by bsb13
                          It was supposed to simulate a hitter reading the seams of the ball (which happens in real life). I thought it was a good attempt but it just didn't quite cut it.
                          It is what it is, so some people will like it and others won't. Like a lot of features in sports games, this is an alternative way to play the game. Many people won't like being told the pitch type every time by color, but MVP shouldn't remove it just because other people don't like it. A game wouldn't have any features if that happened, for the same reason why there's more than one way to play the Show.

                          Any discussion about "remove feature A, put in feature B" is bound to end up going in circles when there are also people who would "remove feature B, to put in feature A".

                          If you want the most realistic type of hitting, use pure zone hitting. Guess pitch is for people who want guess pitch, there's no need to take that away from them just to please people who don't want it to exist. People have fun playing the game both ways including one vs. the other, and that's what counts.

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                          • whoady4shoady
                            Rookie
                            • Jun 2007
                            • 345

                            #58
                            The hitting is much better in the Show, and I have no problems even on the hardest difficulty. I mean yes it is really hard, but there is nothing arcadey about it like MVP.

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                            • Gamit
                              Rookie
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 27

                              #59
                              Re: Three Things MVP 05 Still Does Better

                              High Heat to me was better but thats another story

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                              • Bumble14
                                Producer - EA Sports
                                • Dec 2004
                                • 808

                                #60
                                Just for clarification purposes, I have no problem hitting in The Show 09, so that is not why I wrote what I did about batting. If anything I find the hitting system to be too easy- currently batting .415 as a team in my dynasty on the 2nd hardest difficulty. With a tweaked slider set in MVP I always felt challenged when stepping to the dish, especially with scrub hitters.

                                SCEA can post as many facts as they want about their hitting system- the bottom line is that in my opinion, I feel as if user control is being removed in an effort to create a more statistically realistic experience. It's almost as if I can tell I am playing against cpu logic telling me what I can and can not hit as opposed to me making the adjustments on my own. I have run into multiple games where I am able to initiate the exact same hit variation/animation 4-5 times in a row just by nailing swing timing at a certain location.

                                My point was that MVP's system gave the user far more control to do what they wanted through the zone. The MVP system felt completely organic in that mid swing adjustments felt completely dictated by the users actions. When I play the Show, I feel like there is some kind of disconnect from my virtual batter. It's a difficult feeling to explain, but I think there are a lot of MVP 05 hitting fans out there who know where I am coming from.
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