Three Things MVP 05 Still Does Better

[bkrich83]

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Play the PC version of MVP 05.

There's a reason it is still selling for $60+ on ebay these days.

I couldn't disagree more. I have the PC version of MVP 05, and feel it's the one of the most overrated games of all time. I think due to it's premature demise, people seem to place it in higher esteem than it should be.

I agree with the article on the baserunning, I hate the baserunning in the MLB series, imo, it's always beeen counter intuitive.

But to that end, I hated the hitting and pitching systems in MVP 05, particularly the hitting system, and I felt it's results were questionable at best. I love the fact that in The Show ratings matter, and there are a plethora of them. In MVP the hitting system, and ratings system felt way dumbed down. Power hitter up? Press up and inside and wait for an inside pitch. Whammo home run.

I also felt the franchise setup in MVP was ok, but not great, and somewhat simplistic.

[jim416]

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Whatever......don't add one danged thing to this game until the problems with the game are resolved. Give me THIS game next year, fixed, bug/glitch free, period. I don't want any new experiments with new pitch mechanics, hit stick, nothing. Appears all these "new" things might be what got us here in the first place.

MVP PC, loved it. PLayed it not too long ago.......NEVA going back there, period.

[Phoenixmgs]

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Power hitter up? Press up and inside and wait for an inside pitch. Whammo home run.

I also felt the franchise setup in MVP was ok, but not great, and somewhat simplistic.

Exactly why the MVP series sucked; hitting and pitching sucked so much in the MVP series. How could a baseball game with a horrible hitting and pitching system be regarded as great or even good? Pitching and hitting is the foundation to a good baseball game, you couldn't build a shed on MVP's foundation.

[bang911]

Best OS blog ever! Seriously though, this game was so phenomenal. I have not seen a better hitting system still to this date!

Keep up the MVP love.

[bsb13]

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When it comes down to it...I do think the MVP series was overrated, but I also feel that the MLB series is overrated too. I think the truth is always somewhere in the middle. I have always found that games are never as great as people make them out to be, and they are never as bad as people make them out to be.

I cant think of too many (if any) baseball titles I have played in my life that I couldn't get some kind of enjoyment out of. But I have never played one single baseball game and thought it was the end all and be all of baseball games.

I think games can always learn/steal from one another and make their product much better. Lets be honest...you know the pitching meter in The Show? Where you think they got that idea from? And there is a lot of things The Show has that I wish MVP had.

[srudoff]

you forget the #1 thing that MVP will ALWAYS have over The Show....

Nostalgia

you sound like my dad talking about the Beatles or Stones

and great reply to Brian - "don't bother me with facts - my feelings may fly in the face of how you actually programmed the game, but they're my feelings so there"

[SoxFan01605]

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you forget the #1 thing that MVP will ALWAYS have over The Show....

Nostalgia

you sound like my dad talking about the Beatles or Stones

and great reply to Brian - "don't bother me with facts - my feelings may fly in the face of how you actually programmed the game, but they're my feelings so there"

C'mon...we don't need to take it there. I don't think that was the guy's intent and he even clarified to Brian that he does enjoy the game.

I think he was just making a statement that the facts of how it is intended or implemented don't change his opinion on how it feels to him as a user. While I have a completely different viewpoint than him, there's nothing wrong with him feeling that way.

As for the nostalgia comment, I 100% agree. I think this game and NFL 2K5 are the most overrated games I've ever played (and I loved them both...still play 2K5 too, btw). Getting "killed" in your prime is always good for ratings...lol.

The irony of it is, I'm not sure it was the best baseball game AT THAT TIME, let alone all time. It was innovative in some ways, and did SOME things better than other games. That was a good time for sports gaming though...lots of options to choose from. Each one (for the most part) offering something.

The thing is, I can probably take every relevant current game, and find a previous one in it's genre that had something the current one doesn't...nature of the beast. Doesn't mean it's better, though (IMO).

[tril]

based on this article, Id say MLB 2K9, even though it has its issues, is closer to MVP05 than the SHOW 09.
wish I could find MVP05 on pc for cheap.

[rckabillyRaider]

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based on this article, Id say MLB 2K9, even though it has its issues, is closer to MVP05 than the SHOW 09.
wish I could find MVP05 on pc for cheap.

[Jackdog]

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The only things I miss about MVP is the base running and being able to play in any ballpark you wanted to during a franchise. Classic ones included.

[davewins]

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OK.

Pitching was WAY WORSE in MVP.

In MVP, you could paint the corners every single pitch, and the ptiching meter was wasy as hell. It made for some pretty boring games IMO.

Pitching was one of the things I hated about MVP for that reason. No pitcher in real life hits 95% of his pitches on the corners.

Agreed.

Pitching was the #1 reason why I couldn't enjoy any of the MVP games. In playing the game from 03 to 07 I seriously don't think I walked one batter unintentionally. Pinpoint location with every type of pitch.

If they fixed the pitching so it was more rating based like SCEA is then that game would of been 10X better IMO.

[k_bassuka]

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This is wrong on all accounts. You say you played on a high level of baseball but consider MVP's hitting mechanics and batters eye feature superior to The Show? How do you figure?

I played Semi-Pro and College ball and I never remember the baseball flashing different colors based upon what type of pitch was coming. I also never remember adjusting my swing to hit a fly ball or ground ball. If I wanted a fly ball I looked for a pitch up in the zone, and by swinging at a pitch up in the zone you have a better chance hitting a fly ball because that is how baseball works. This is the way it is in The Show.

MVP was a mediocre baseball game at best though they did do some great things with control schemes.

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I consider an expert on both games and have mastered both, MVP was easier to master but far more realistic than The Show specially when you took the field, from the time the ball was put into play to the time you threw the ball you were in control of the player unlike The Show and their ridiculous in game animations. I miss throwing home then hit a button to cut the ball and get the runner going to second instead.<o></o>
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After you master The show is even worst than MVP my record stands at 82-12 some of those loses were due to sim games at the end and because of those balls that my fielder decided to let go through their legs on double play situation and in the OF. Through 94 games I have 4 players on the team with over 40 HR, all players have 15+ even the bench guys and my team ERA is under 3. All this while playing on Legend, it happened the same thing on last year version. The pitching meter is useless in The show 09 even worst than the 08 version, you don’t even have to move the ball location and attempt to hit the corners and strikeout 10+ batters and throw perfect games, maybe its just me but that’s not realistic at all. The hitting is the same way, just like MVP you could sit on a high and inside pitch on The Show you can sit on a down the middle of the plate fastball or off-speed pitch. This and the really bad fielding made me stop playing baseball games as of right now. Boy can't wait for football season to start and The Show '10.<o></o>

[WatchdogXC]

After seeing the first screenshot, I thought you'd mention the pitch feedback being better knowing how early or late you were or the check swing feedback. I much prefer the hitting in the Show because I can't hit a home run on every fast ball up and in. I loved MVP 2005 and played it for over 3 years before I got my PS3 and the Show, but it shows its age now. I tried going back to it after playing the Show last year and I just couldn't finish a game. It was way too easy to pitch as I could spot every pitch where I wanted to.

The main thing I liked about MVP better than the Show was the fielding throw meter. I really liked the difference in abilities on how easy it was to make a hard throw. It was a staggering difference going from Omar Vizquel in 2004 to using Jhonny Peralta in 2005 defensively.

I personally don't have a problem with The Show's baserunning controls. They make perfect sense to me.

I still wish either game would have let you put anyone on the DL regardless of injury like the All Star baseball games did on N64.

[huskerfan4life]

I agree with you 100% I would hope that the SCEA people on this site would try to implement these next yr

[MFazio23]

I agree with a lot that you said about MVP, but it seemed like you moreso just wanted to bash The Show rather than praise MVP.

You seemed to undermine your points by talking about what The Show does wrong more than what MVP does right.