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  • TN - BRAVES FAN
    MVP
    • Jul 2009
    • 1328

    #1

    Does sending guys down to AAA and bringing them back up really help?

    I can't do a thing with Derek Lowe...he's doing awful for me. If I send him down and bring him back up a week or two later will it actully help?
  • Kevin_D
    Rookie
    • Mar 2009
    • 283

    #2
    Re: Does sending guys down to AAA and bringing them back up really help?

    No. I notice that they usually continue doing bad in the minors as well.

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    • EdReedFan20
      Rookie
      • Jun 2009
      • 11

      #3
      Re: Does sending guys down to AAA and bringing them back up really help?

      Maybe. Perhaps he'll carve up the hitters down in the minors, causing his confidence to climb. There is a menu (which I keep forgetting is there) where you can see his feelings about things (playing time, contract, confidence, etc). I do wish you could get messages from your player when they are unhappy (like in MVP Baseball 2005). You should check the menu and see if anything is troubling him.

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      • cch99
        MVP
        • May 2003
        • 1527

        #4
        Re: Does sending guys down to AAA and bringing them back up really help?

        I've sent guys to the minors and they are lights out but when I bring them back up they still get hammered. In fact, this is just my 'chise but I have never seen it help someone by sending them down and bringing them back up.

        For example, I play as the Phils in my franchise. Kyle Kendrick was pitching awesome in the minors. He was like 6-1 with a sub 2 ERA. I brought him up after an injury and he started 4 games and his ERA was over 7. He absolutely sucked. That was simming or playing as.

        I send him back down and he doesn't pitch as good but he finishes the AAA season 10-1 with a 2.45 ERA. Since he is on my 40-man roster I put him in a long relief role to do mop up work. First game I put him in he gives up a Home Run, a walk and a base hit. A few games later when I am simming he gives up 4 runs in an inning. His ERA is over 9. I honestly don't know what to do with him.

        So, IMO, I haven't seen it help sending someone down but only the devs can say if that kind of thing has some kind of impact on players psyche. I know that supposedly morale does effect them and there is one for League but if they are sent down if anything they should pitch worse maybe. Don't get it really.

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        • bigal093
          Banned
          • Apr 2009
          • 529

          #5
          Re: Does sending guys down to AAA and bringing them back up really help?

          well, do hot and cold streaks transfer from minors to majors. because say C.C. or someone great is doing terrible, and gets a snowflake for a cold streak. Say you send him down to AA, and he kills. then he'll get a hot streak. If you call him up, will he still have a hot streak icon. Because if he did, then wouldn't that make him do better in theory. because the players are so streaky on here, when they get hot, they go on tears, so i could see this helping if used like that.

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          • countryboy
            Growing pains
            • Sep 2003
            • 52689

            #6
            Re: Does sending guys down to AAA and bringing them back up really help?

            IMO, yes it does have an effect and tends to help.

            Case in point...I sent Jeremy Bonderman down to the minors in August due to him having a 5.50+ ERA and going 3 straight starts in which he pitched less than 4 innings, gave up a total of 17 runs in those 3 games, and was a complete mess.

            I sent him down for about 3 weeks before calling him back up due to Adam Wainwright's season ending injury. He's come back up, pitched in 5 games and has a 4-0 record and has lowered his ERA from 5.50+ to 4.87 as of right now. He pitched 2 complete games in those 5 starts.
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            • grisch44
              Rookie
              • Jul 2005
              • 176

              #7
              Re: Does sending guys down to AAA and bringing them back up really help?

              I think it depends on the situation and the player. I sent Ryan
              Franklin down after a couple months of struggling and when I brought him back up he was lights out until the playoff when he blew up again.

              Countryboy, I think you roll with a Cardinals chise. I took Ridin's new roster, simmed through 2009, completed the off season and am playing 2010. I'm curios as to what moves you made. If you don't mind please PM me.

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              • cch99
                MVP
                • May 2003
                • 1527

                #8
                Re: Does sending guys down to AAA and bringing them back up really help?

                Well it's good to hear that guys can return and do well. Obviously my sample size was small with just Kendrick but the injury bug kind of sticks you sometimes and you are forced to bring guys back up you might not.

                I will say this also. I have been in such a quandry as at who to bring up and send down that in the past I have dropped guys from my 40 man roster so that I could try someone else out and not once has a guy been picked up on waivers.

                Has anyone seen someone they dropped from the 40 man get picked up waivers ? Just curious because last season I dropped Scott Eyre from the 40 man and he never got picked up but someone signed him in Free Agency. This season I dropped Jack Taschner and no one picked him up.

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                • bigal093
                  Banned
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 529

                  #9
                  Re: Does sending guys down to AAA and bringing them back up really help?

                  i think i accidently sent down an A potential prospect once, and had to quit without saving, b/c he was claimed. I could be mistaking though. This is an area that needs improved though. In the offseason, you have a lot of decent players waived, but during the season the CPU hardly ever waives anybody that isn't awful.

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                  • countryboy
                    Growing pains
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 52689

                    #10
                    Re: Does sending guys down to AAA and bringing them back up really help?

                    Originally posted by grisch44

                    Countryboy, I think you roll with a Cardinals chise. I took Ridin's new roster, simmed through 2009, completed the off season and am playing 2010. I'm curios as to what moves you made. If you don't mind please PM me.
                    I'm closing out my 3rd season and have made numerous changes.
                    I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.

                    I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


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                    • Phoenix29
                      Rookie
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 325

                      #11
                      Re: Does sending guys down to AAA and bringing them back up really help?

                      I will be starting my franchise, very shortly, and the first player who I may move if he doesn't hit well, is wells, too bad the Jays couldn't send him down .

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                      • CubFan23
                        MVP
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 3985

                        #12
                        Re: Does sending guys down to AAA and bringing them back up really help?

                        I sent Carlos Marmol ( 3-8 6.57 era)of the Cubs down to AAA for a few games, brought him back when the rosters expand and he has retired all 9 hitters he's faced. Before I sent him down I could not get anyone with him for the life of me, now he is lights out

                        Edit: add another 2 more perfect innings.
                        Last edited by CubFan23; 08-04-2009, 08:47 PM.
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                        • Jgainsey
                          I can't feel it
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 3356

                          #13
                          Re: Does sending guys down to AAA and bringing them back up really help?

                          It's worked ok for me so far. I sent down Eric O'flaherty after he stunk it up the first month or so. About a month later his replacement Boone Logan was doing even worse, so I checked to see how O'flaherty had been doing in triple A. Turns out he was dominating, so I brought him back up and he's been solid ever since.

                          I also sent Jeff Bennett down. I brought him back up recently after someone else in the pen was injured. He ended up being just as bad, so he was sent back down before too long.

                          If you've got decent options at AAA, promoting/demoting guys isn't a bad idea. I would just be careful about how much you do it. You don't wanna burn through a bunch of player's minor league options and end up getting screwed later on.
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