MLB '10: The Show Hands-On Impressions @ CES w/ Russell_SCEA

[Knight165]

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I wish they could remove the "fade" effect altogether. I don't really think that has any place in a baseball game, and IMO takes away from the RTP aspect of the game.

Ehh...sometimes you gotta take the good with the "bad"(the fade...I don't even notice it)....
Just look at the case of your new MLB'10 box cover art....his records don't belong in the books...but we gotta put up with them.



M.K.
Knight165

[EnigmaNemesis]

Re: @ CES w/ Russell. Hands ON Impressions.

I wish they could remove the "fade" effect altogether. I don't really think that has any place in a baseball game, and IMO takes away from the RTP aspect of the game.

Personally I have a feeling the fade wont be there for RTP, when it comes to the final.

[DickDalewood]

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The videos look amazing. Especially for an early build.

But seriously fellas? White flashes? Camera fade? Ball to grass physics vs ball to dirt physics? Really? This is what we're nitpicking now after about 5 minuted total of video?

Holy cow...

[EnigmaNemesis]

Re: @ CES w/ Russell. Hands ON Impressions.

The videos look amazing. Especially for an early build.

But seriously fellas? White flashes? Camera fade? Ball to grass physics vs ball to dirt physics? Really? This is what we're nitpicking now after about 5 minuted total of video?

Holy cow...

Some things never change, LOL

[Blzer]

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I'm confused about how the Broadcast camera works ???

....If it's a broadcast camera shouldn't the camera view be primarily displayed from behind the pitcher like a TV broadcast and not from the catchers view ??

The broadcast camera isn't in reference to the batter-pitcher duel, it's in reference to when the ball is put in play. The camera is stationed at a position and swivels accordingly, zooming in and out when the ball is hit to the outfield and thrown back in, etc. It gives a greater feeling of "authenticity" when done right, and IMO there is some tweakage to be done with it still, however it is one of the greatest new features of the game for me and I can't wait to play with it.

Here's my question about it, though (and partly why I don't like the "down the line" angles): So the idea of this is to have non-transitional cameras, correct? So what if someone hits a ball, say, down the left field line, then we'll be in that camera for the entire play. Well, what if we're trying to then do a rundown between first and second or third and home? Won't the wide shot be way to difficult to determine depth? Or what about trying to make a tag between second and third? Do you think we can easily position ourselves correctly on the right part of the dirt to make sure that we tag the people? I think that the view will cause some perception disorientation when we're trying to do something but can't get it accomplished.

In my opinion, I think a permanently centered [and slightly higher] broadcast camera is the best option, even for gameplay purposes. I don't know if they have any time to consider what I mean when I'm talking about these examples, but it's kind of detracting in that sense. The reason the traditional camera we're used to doesn't have this issue is because it will pan and center up with the field once somebody fields the ball (plus we're right there on the field so we can see what's going on and run where we need to), but the broadcast camera looks like it may come with those issuing exceptions.

[Blzer]

Re: @ CES w/ Russell. Hands ON Impressions.

The videos look amazing. Especially for an early build.

But seriously fellas? White flashes? Camera fade? Ball to grass physics vs ball to dirt physics? Really? This is what we're nitpicking now after about 5 minuted total of video?

Holy cow...

I think that's in reference to how good the rest of the game is. I mean, I can only repeat how great the lighting and check swings are as often as anyone else, but when push comes to shove I want to start looking toward the future and go, "What is it that we can say now so that next year we can all 'ooo' and 'ahh' at the next little things that are done correctly.

Keep in mind that I never liked the "fade effect", I always thought it was terrible but figured there was an excuse with it like they were loading a cut scene. Now that cut scenes are gone, I think you would be surprised how much better looking it would be if there was no fading. Again, anything for more presentation realism, I'm all in for it.

And the physics thing is more important than you're making it. Obviously they had a problem with it last year, so they thought it was important to address the issue.


And guys, come on... don't think of me as hating on these things. Obviously this game has everything '09 has and then some, and I was completely satisfied (glorified, rather) with my purchase and play time with '09. The same thing is going to happen with '10, '11, '12, and '83. I'm just looking forward is all.

[DickDalewood]

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Here's my question about it, though (and partly why I don't like the "down the line" angles): So the idea of this is to have non-transitional cameras, correct? So what if someone hits a ball, say, down the left field line, then we'll be in that camera for the entire play. Well, what if we're trying to then do a rundown between first and second or third and home? Won't the wide shot be way to difficult to determine depth? Or what about trying to make a tag between second and third? Do you think we can easily position ourselves correctly on the right part of the dirt to make sure that we tag the people? I think that the view will cause some perception disorientation when we're trying to do something but can't get it accomplished.

Blzer, c'mon man, you're asking all these questions and none of us have even played the game, or really seen any significant length of video. Don't you think the devs, who have for about four+ years now made the best baseball game on the market, considered this already? I highly doubt they're going to take the best playing baseball sim available, and make it near unplayable just for the sake of a broadcast came.

Patience dude, wait until we get more gameplay vids, or a demo, whatever. It's all hypotheticals right now.

[dmbfan1970]

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ok....WHO was playing as the Cardinals, pitching with Carpenter, and giving up RBI basehits to Billy Butler?


Thanks for the videos and the info Dmb...very much appreciated.

Russell was piping them to me. But beware Butler will be a .300 hitter for his career. I hope I didn't just jinx him now!

[Tyused]

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Amazing videos dude! Who the hell is playing in the field for both games?! christ, cant even track down a routine fly ball!

Anyway u can get a HR? or a double play videos if possible? If this event is still going on or not...lol

[wrigleyville33]

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Dirt vs grass ball physics? ha. It would be incredible if they perfected it, ala balls hopping over the wall when they hit dirt or stopping in its tracks when if hits the grass. Imagine if they took it even further and made it stadium specific? For example, Wrigley has longer and thicker grass then most fields (if I remember correctly, its still long even after they redid the entire field and go rid of the "crown"), so what if they made ground balls slower?

[countryboy]

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Hey CB, be thankful it wasn't Matt Kemp vs Carpenter

Kemp is a little more tolerable. I mean, Kemp is a fine hitter. But f'n Billy Butler...really?

[jim416]

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Who the hell is playing in the field for both games?! christ, cant even track down a routine fly ball!

LOL. Yeah, we expect more from someone representing OS. No excuse will save you, either.

[EnigmaNemesis]

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LOL. Yeah, we expect more from someone representing OS. No excuse will save you, either.

I am really hoping they were doing that on purpose to show the ball physics.

I kept saying on the routine fly ball, "catch the ball, catch the ball, come on catch the, wait what are you doing, nooooo, catch the damn, WHAT... WHAT"?

[countryboy]

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reading through this thread has only proven to me more that no single video game will ever be perfect because there will always be something "wrong" with the game.

BTW....from the vids I couldn't help but notice that the chalklines are 2 millimeters to thin. Also, the grass blades are about 2 inches too short which could be the reason why we are seeing the ball hit the grass and bounce over the wall. I know its an early build but maybe they could fix it before the final build or if not, then patch it because who wants to play a game where the chalklines are too thin and the grass is too short?

[jim416]

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I am really hoping they were doing that on purpose to show the ball physics.

That's excuse numero uno.