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  • jim416
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    • Feb 2003
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    #256
    Re: MLB '10: The Show Hands-On Impressions @ CES w/ Russell_SCEA *Day 2*

    Well, sorry, but you're wrong on this, but if you think this is a close as it's gonna get.....

    good ball flight CAM, especially for HR derby, is a let down for that feature.
    This is my point. So forget the batting stances and pitching deliveries too? They aren't in the game yet. Too many people are treating this like it's done. I'm just telling you it's not. All I can say....
    Last edited by jim416; 01-12-2010, 12:06 AM.

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    • jim416
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      #257
      Re: MLB '10: The Show Hands-On Impressions @ CES w/ Russell_SCEA *Day 2*

      Not trying to be smart, but what do you think the developers are doing for the next month? All are working overtime, some sleep in their cubicles in the studio.

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      • wsu_gb23
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        • Feb 2008
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        #258
        Re: MLB '10: The Show Hands-On Impressions @ CES w/ Russell_SCEA *Day 2*

        Originally posted by jim416
        Well, sorry, but you're wrong on this, but if you think this is a close as it's gonna get.....



        This is my point. So forget the batting stances and pitching deliveries too? They aren't in the game yet. Too many people are treating this like it's done. I'm just telling you it's not. All I can say....
        with that being said, why is it that every year a lot of the pitching deliveries remain the same and never get fixed? Examples, Brandon Webb, Roy Halladay and Chris Carpenter have had poor deliveries for a while now. Is this the year they get fixed? To me, without accurate looking pitching deliveries the game will not mimic a real-life broadcast.

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        • jim416
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          • Feb 2003
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          #259
          Re: MLB '10: The Show Hands-On Impressions @ CES w/ Russell_SCEA *Day 2*

          Do you know how many times I"ve seen you guys argue over batting stances/deliveries (when I was doing rosters) and I would check the batting stances that different people were saying were correct and they DIDN'T EVEN LOOK the same, lo. So much for experts, lol.

          Wsu, I'm not going to answer you're question as you seem to have many issues with the game and that's fine, everybody has a gripe, all I'm saying is that people are writing the game off as a finished product...........it's not.

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          • Blzer
            Resident film pundit
            • Mar 2004
            • 42519

            #260
            Re: MLB '10: The Show Hands-On Impressions @ CES w/ Russell_SCEA *Day 2*

            Originally posted by jim416
            Not trying to be smart, but what do you think the developers are doing for the next month? All are working overtime, some sleep in their cubicles in the studio.
            I think most of the work at this point is probably getting in final touches as well as bug-fixing. However at the same time, I think the build at CES is older than, say, January 7th, so there was a time in between that build and right now that they put more things in, including animations and the like. They're probably not yet at that stage, but at least close to it.

            So I hope that none of my posts sounded like "It's too late for this year so I'm going to complain," because instead my posts were like "Hopefully there's still some time that I can make some suggestions for them to tweak for this year's version."
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            • jim416
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              • Feb 2003
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              #261
              Re: MLB '10: The Show Hands-On Impressions @ CES w/ Russell_SCEA *Day 2*

              I think most of the work at this point is probably getting in final touches as well as bug-fixing.
              Incorrect. In late January last year they had NOT finished layering the grass when we were testing the game. But, I'm done trying to explain, really, lol.

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              • Blzer
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                • Mar 2004
                • 42519

                #262
                Re: MLB '10: The Show Hands-On Impressions @ CES w/ Russell_SCEA *Day 2*

                Originally posted by jim416
                Incorrect. In late January last year they had NOT finished layering the grass when we were testing the game. But, I'm done trying to explain, really, lol.
                It was a guess, that's all. I didn't say that's the stage that they're on, I'm saying that's part of what they have left to do lol. Believe me, I'm more jealous than anyone else here that you got to go to the community event, so at least you get to show off what you know. I'm just left here to guess.

                Originally posted by Yanks22
                did nobody here listen to i said, when he went last year they were still working on the game and adding things and that was in late feb right before the game came out. everyone just hold your horses and you can all judge the game come march when the final build is out and ready to go. until then all the complaints and gripes are kinda pointless on an unfinished product thats getting worked on every single day from here on til its released.
                The "complaints" are suggestions in case they missed anything, like the Target Field animation.
                Last edited by Blzer; 01-12-2010, 12:27 AM.
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                • Yanks22
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                  #263
                  Re: MLB '10: The Show Hands-On Impressions @ CES w/ Russell_SCEA *Day 2*

                  did nobody here listen to i said, when he went last year they were still working on the game and adding things and that was in late feb right before the game came out. everyone just hold your horses and you can all judge the game come march when the final build is out and ready to go. until then all the complaints and gripes are kinda pointless on an unfinished product thats getting worked on every single day from here on til its released.
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                  • Knight165
                    *ll St*r
                    • Feb 2003
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                    #264
                    Re: MLB '10: The Show Hands-On Impressions @ CES w/ Russell_SCEA *Day 2*

                    Hell yeah they are still working on...changing and probably adding things to the game WAY into January.
                    Last year...I believe we went to SCEA in very late January.
                    They changed a couple of things right then and there.
                    Some they could...some they couldn't.

                    (in my best Jim Mora voice)
                    HR DERBY?...HR DERBY!?....are you kidding me HR DERBY!!!?
                    doesn't even belong...
                    (of course I'm mocking...but HR DERBY?!)

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                    • Scottdau
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                      • Feb 2003
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                      #265
                      Re: MLB '10: The Show Hands-On Impressions @ CES w/ Russell_SCEA *Day 2*

                      I agree you guys need to relax on this stances and deliveries. I love it when someone says "that is wrong stance" then they find one they think is better and then another guy has another better stance and then you have to guys fighting that their stance is better. The bottom line is you are seeing a guy bat from the front view when you see him on TV, not from the back view like you do with this game. It makes a difference.

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                      • Blzer
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                        • Mar 2004
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                        #266
                        Re: MLB '10: The Show Hands-On Impressions @ CES w/ Russell_SCEA *Day 2*

                        Originally posted by Scottdau
                        I agree you guys need to relax on this stances and deliveries. I love it when someone says "that is wrong stance" then they find one they think is better and then another guy has another better stance and then you have to guys fighting that their stance is better. The bottom line is you are seeing a guy bat from the front view when you see him on TV, not from the back view like you do with this game. It makes a difference.
                        That's why we need more generic stances to choose from, and I mean dozens more.
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                        • Bahnzo
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                          • Jun 2003
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                          #267
                          Re: MLB '10: The Show Hands-On Impressions @ CES w/ Russell_SCEA *Day 2*

                          Originally posted by jim416
                          Not trying to be smart, but what do you think the developers are doing for the next month? All are working overtime, some sleep in their cubicles in the studio.
                          Exactly, crunch time is coming up for these guys. 18 hour days and sleeping under your desk. Especially with a game that has a deadline like sports games, you won't ever see a final build until it's released to be pressed. I'd be surprised if the build they had at CES was anything close to a final. More like something as bug free as possible that shows the new features to the public.
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                          • Scottdau
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                            • Feb 2003
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                            #268
                            Re: MLB '10: The Show Hands-On Impressions @ CES w/ Russell_SCEA *Day 2*

                            Blzer to have all those stances are not easy. It takes a lot of space on a disk to have those. Hey look what I did I act like I knew something about disk space.

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                            • jim416
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                              • Feb 2003
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                              #269
                              Re: MLB '10: The Show Hands-On Impressions @ CES w/ Russell_SCEA *Day 2*

                              Yep, no days off, even saw a pet cage in a cubicle. That's why these guys cannot be heard from after release as they are long gone on deserved leave time.

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                              • Blzer
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                                • Mar 2004
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                                #270
                                Re: MLB '10: The Show Hands-On Impressions @ CES w/ Russell_SCEA *Day 2*

                                Originally posted by Scottdau
                                Blzer to have all those stances are not easy. It takes a lot of space on a disk to have those. Hey look what I did I act like I knew something about disk space.
                                Only reason I figured animations wouldn't take up much space is because... well... they tend to add hundreds of animations a year. I know that audio files (commentary) takes up a lot, but it sounds to me like animations wouldn't take up much.

                                Only reason I see it might is if the animations we have to select take up more space, maybe because they need to be called or something, I don't know.

                                I'm just saying that, if push comes to shove and if we can't have both, I would almost want to see a baseball game one day had hundreds of "generic" stances instead of signature stances, because then rookies won't always have the same few stances or whatever, and we can still find close enough stances for everyone else.
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