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  • wsu_gb23
    Banned
    • Feb 2008
    • 1641

    #376
    Re: MLB '10: The Show Hands-On Impressions @ CES w/ Russell_SCEA *Day 2*

    Originally posted by Qb
    To have nothing could present a problem, hence the "less visually intrusive" bit. I guess a transparent ring underneath the player would be a more viable option.

    Blzer bringing up the ball landing icon is a good example of function vs. aesthetics. I do use the landing area so I have some idea where the ball will land out of necessity (for me), but not the exact location since I don't like the big baseball on the screen.

    These are really just personal preferences, which is why I said I like the option to turn them off. It's such a beautiful game and for me, meters/aids intrude on that beauty to some degree.
    how about have the fielder's name show up and fade after the user controls him?

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    • Blzer
      Resident film pundit
      • Mar 2004
      • 42518

      #377
      Re: MLB '10: The Show Hands-On Impressions @ CES w/ Russell_SCEA *Day 2*

      Originally posted by wsu_gb23
      how about have the fielder's name show up and fade after the user controls him?
      Yikes, I'll stick to the indicator under the player. Whenever 2K does that name crap on default, I'm pretty much obliged to turn it off.
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      • swaldo
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        • Jul 2002
        • 1268

        #378
        Re: MLB '10: The Show Hands-On Impressions @ CES w/ Russell_SCEA *Day 2*

        Originally posted by countryboy
        so you felt that homeruns in '09 were anti-climatic and in an effort to fix that problem, you want a special homerun camera to take effect when a homerun is hit?
        Take a look at the footage in this video from All Star Baseball 2005 and tell me your thoughts. I challenge anyone to provide LIVE ACTION footage of a home run from The Show which looks better than this. This is what Blzer was referring to and Ball Flight Lovers rejoice...

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        In regards to a "custom camera" for home runs, the only thing I'd add is that it would also activate during any deep hit ball. That way there is some suspense on whether or not the ball is going out of the park. Part of the fun of watching a home is yelling "Holy Moses, is it? C'mon, get out...get out of here...gone!!!
        Last edited by swaldo; 01-13-2010, 03:04 PM.

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        • Blzer
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          • Mar 2004
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          #379
          Re: MLB '10: The Show Hands-On Impressions @ CES w/ Russell_SCEA *Day 2*

          See, as for gameplay, I would much prefer nothing but a broadcast camera angle (that is, right behind the plate). Broadcast for a ground ball, pop up, home run, you name it. If it's a no-doubter, though, that would be cool if the broadcast camera guy focused on the ball and gave little attention to the fielders, kind of like in the replays from 09 (only not continually zooming in so close like they do). If they had that for Home Run Derby, all would be honky-dory and smooth-sailing on my end of the connection.

          EDIT: Oh, and looking at the video you posted, one thing I absolutely hated about ASB 2005 is they decided to enlarge the ball to more easily see it when it flies in the air. My favorite of the games was ASB 2003, but it had an issue of not too many balls being hit to right field, mostly to left field. ASB 2005 was also the only one that had the big "HOME RUN" thing as well, which I never liked.
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          • Skyboxer
            Donny Baseball!
            • Jul 2002
            • 20302

            #380
            Re: MLB '10: The Show Hands-On Impressions @ CES w/ Russell_SCEA *Day 2*

            Originally posted by wsu_gb23
            how about have the fielder's name show up and fade after the user controls him?
            That's a reasonable option. Better than it staying on the whole time. Options are always better than no options.
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            • Skyboxer
              Donny Baseball!
              • Jul 2002
              • 20302

              #381
              Re: MLB '10: The Show Hands-On Impressions @ CES w/ Russell_SCEA *Day 2*

              Originally posted by Blzer
              See, as for gameplay, I would much prefer nothing but a broadcast camera angle (that is, right behind the plate). Broadcast for a ground ball, pop up, home run, you name it. If it's a no-doubter, though, that would be cool if the broadcast camera guy focused on the ball and gave little attention to the fielders, kind of like in the replays from 09 (only not continually zooming in so close like they do). If they had that for Home Run Derby, all would be honky-dory and smooth-sailing on my end of the connection.
              Agree big time...
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              • countryboy
                Growing pains
                • Sep 2003
                • 52743

                #382
                Re: MLB '10: The Show Hands-On Impressions @ CES w/ Russell_SCEA *Day 2*

                Originally posted by swaldo
                Take a look at the footage in this video from All Star Baseball 2005 and tell me your thoughts. I challenge anyone to provide LIVE ACTION footage of a home run from The Show which looks better than this. This is what Blzer was referring to and Ball Flight Lovers rejoice...

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                In regards to a "custom camera" for home runs, the only thing I'd add is that it would also activate during any deep hit ball. That way there is some suspense on whether or not the ball is going out of the park. Part of the fun of watching a home is yelling "Holy Moses, is it? C'mon, get out...get out of here...gone!!!
                LOL...I wasn't challenging your idea of having homeruns be more suspenseful, I was caught off guard, confused, by you stating that you felt that homeruns weren't dramatic and then offered up a homerun camera as a solution. I know you're seeking a long strung out debate(by challenging anyone) about this idea, but not everyone is out to "disagree"/"debate" your opinions.
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                • Pared
                  Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 39337

                  #383
                  Re: MLB '10: The Show Hands-On Impressions @ CES w/ Russell_SCEA *Day 2*

                  Yeah, no. Those camera views during a "borderline homerun" wouldn't allow controlling the fielder well at all.

                  And that's not suspenseful.

                  Forget all this subjectivity here and copy the angles used in the real home-run derby, including the slight delay in camera angle transition from batter to ball-flight.

                  Source: ESPN

                  It's really this simple. And if you disagree with that, you don't like the real broadcast of the HR Derby.
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                  • Blzer
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                    • Mar 2004
                    • 42518

                    #384
                    Re: MLB '10: The Show Hands-On Impressions @ CES w/ Russell_SCEA *Day 2*

                    Originally posted by Pared
                    Yeah, no. Those camera views during a "borderline homerun" wouldn't allow controlling the fielder well at all.

                    And that's not suspenseful.

                    Forget all this subjectivity here and copy the angles used in the real home-run derby, including the slight delay in camera angle transition from batter to ball-flight.

                    Source: ESPN

                    It's really this simple. And if you disagree with that, you don't like the real broadcast of the HR Derby.
                    I agree one thousand percent. No game has yet to replicate this.

                    Just... no weird squiggly ball trail.
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                    • swaldo
                      MVP
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 1268

                      #385
                      Re: MLB '10: The Show Hands-On Impressions @ CES w/ Russell_SCEA *Day 2*

                      Originally posted by countryboy
                      LOL...I wasn't challenging your idea of having homeruns be more suspenseful, I was caught off guard, confused, by you stating that you felt that homeruns weren't dramatic and then offered up a homerun camera as a solution. I know you're seeking a long strung out debate(by challenging anyone) about this idea, but not everyone is out to "disagree"/"debate" your opinions.
                      When you offer no opinion and stick me with it comes across as if you think my idea was lame. It's moot anyway because Russell PM'd me stating that camera angle suggestions should be saved for next years wish list.

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                      • Shakedowncapo
                        MVP
                        • Aug 2002
                        • 4031

                        #386
                        Re: MLB '10: The Show Hands-On Impressions @ CES w/ Russell_SCEA *Day 2*

                        This is what Pared means by 'slight delay in camera angle transition from batter to ball-flight.'

                        I love Braun's followthrough swing here:













                        I know that's a lot of examples..But I want you guys to see get the picture LOL.
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                        • texbuk84
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                          • Apr 2006
                          • 1277

                          #387
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                          • Blzer
                            Resident film pundit
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 42518

                            #388
                            Re: MLB '10: The Show Hands-On Impressions @ CES w/ Russell_SCEA *Day 2*

                            Yep, I sort of like the camera delay thing as well. Like a major league player, it sort of makes you get a feel of your hit before you get out of the box, but you don't yet exactly know what's going to happen. So eventually, you'll get a "feel" of those no-doubters when you hit them, and you'll raise your arms in the air before the camera even transitions, and as the ball goes out, it becomes a confirmation of your celebration.

                            That kind of stuff feels exciting, all in about three-tenths of a second.
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                            • countryboy
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                              • Sep 2003
                              • 52743

                              #389
                              Re: MLB '10: The Show Hands-On Impressions @ CES w/ Russell_SCEA *Day 2*

                              Originally posted by swaldo
                              When you offer no opinion and stick me with it comes across as if you think my idea was lame. It's moot anyway because Russell PM'd me stating that camera angle suggestions should be saved for next years wish list.
                              = confused

                              I asked you a question and put behind it because I was confused as to your solution to your problem.

                              If I thought your opinion was lame I would've let you know.
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                              • Scottdau
                                Banned
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 32580

                                #390
                                Re: MLB '10: The Show Hands-On Impressions @ CES w/ Russell_SCEA *Day 2*

                                Originally posted by countryboy
                                = confused

                                I asked you a question and put behind it because I was confused as to your solution to your problem.

                                If I thought your opinion was lame I would've let you know.
                                What is the smilies for something lame?

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