MLB '10: The Show Official Team Ratings and Explanation

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  • RedsManRick
    Rookie
    • Apr 2008
    • 38

    #301
    Re: MLB '10: The Show Official Team Ratings and Explanation

    Reds at 19th overall makes sense, but 19th in fielding is laughable. They were 4th in MLB in DER last year (defensive efficiency rating) and are only poised to improve with full seasons from Rolen and Stubbs and less Johnny Gomes in LF. They are poised to be average or above average at every single position on the field, save possibly for SS with O-Cab. I just can't imagine how they'll be 19th...

    I'd love more info on how they arrive at player ratings -- what stats are used, how past seasons are weighted, the role of age, etc.
    Last edited by RedsManRick; 02-21-2010, 11:44 PM.

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    • wrigleyville33
      Pro
      • Dec 2008
      • 895

      #302
      Re: MLB '10: The Show Official Team Ratings and Explanation

      Originally posted by GunnerAsh
      I know we are bad, but dead last? Come on SCEA, give us a break. Theres no way we are worse than the Nats...
      Hmm... I would choose the Nats. Morgen, Zimmerman, and perhaps strasburg, with Kapps.

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      • Jdurg
        Banned
        • Feb 2005
        • 827

        #303
        Re: MLB10 The Show Official Team Ratings

        Originally posted by miamimarlins1
        I can't believe the Marlins got screwed again. They had the 5th best record in the NL, doesn't that count for anything
        Actually, it doesn't. The division a "team" is in, or the ballpark the play in has 100%, absolutely zero impact on the rankings presented by SCEA. As mentioned numerous times already, the team rankings are based upon a composite of the ratings and stats for each and every single player on that team. Overall team statistics don't play a role at all as to where to the teams are ranked by SCEA. This is because a team last year could have finished in first place, but due to player retirements or loss of players to free-agency, their current roster's composite ratings put them lower in the overall rankings.

        So again, the rankings of the TEAMS from last year play absolutely no part in the team rankings this year. This year's team rankings are an overall composite score based upon the stats of each and every individual player over the past three years in addition to their individual ratings given for this year.

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        • BatsareBugs
          LVP
          • Feb 2003
          • 12553

          #304
          Re: MLB '10: The Show Official Team Ratings and Explanation

          Originally posted by wrigleyville33
          Hmm... I would choose the Nats. Morgen, Zimmerman, and perhaps strasburg, with Kapps.
          Strasburg won't be in the game. Even though he's on the 40-man roster, he has yet to pitch an inning.

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          • ParisB
            MVP
            • Jan 2010
            • 1699

            #305
            Re: MLB '10: The Show Official Team Ratings and Explanation

            Originally posted by ykiki
            What exactly is "adjusted numbers outside of safeco field"? Does that mean, unlike real life, we're supposed to pretend that they don't actually play their games there??
            ummm, the fact that several teams plays half their season in pitcher's parks and makes their stats look better than they are...or vice versa, some teams play in hitters parks.

            the home/road splits go a long way to show how good a team is, along with the adjusted factors (which i already mentioned)

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            • DJDReW3102
              Rookie
              • Mar 2005
              • 79

              #306
              these ratings are possibly worse than mlb2k's this year. who would have imagined that?

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              • ricowiz
                Rookie
                • Mar 2004
                • 179

                #307
                Re: MLB '10: The Show Official Team Ratings and Explanation

                Awesome, the Nats arent last!!

                These seem off though....I mean how can Baltimore be rated higher overall than Seattle???
                When life hands you a lemon, just look up and say, "Oh yeah, is that all you got? Because I love lemons!".

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                • ATLNYankee
                  Banned
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 116

                  #308
                  Re: MLB '10: The Show Official Team Ratings and Explanation

                  Originally posted by ricowiz
                  Awesome, the Nats arent last!!

                  These seem off though....I mean how can Baltimore be rated higher overall than Seattle???

                  Maybe because the O's have a decent offense, young pitchers and have to play the Rays, Yankees and Red Sox 56 times out of 162.

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                  • Joepman
                    Rookie
                    • Apr 2003
                    • 207

                    #309
                    Re: MLB '10: The Show Official Team Ratings and Explanation

                    Originally posted by ParisB
                    ummm, the fact that several teams plays half their season in pitcher's parks and makes their stats look better than they are...or vice versa, some teams play in hitters parks.
                    But it cuts both ways. Safeco may make the M's pitchers look better than they actually are, but it also makes their hitters look worse than they actually were.

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                    • Tyused
                      Rookie
                      • Jul 2006
                      • 273

                      #310
                      Re: MLB '10: The Show Official Team Ratings and Explanation

                      Originally posted by Jdurg
                      #1: Those are team stats. SCEA's team rankings are not based one iota on team stat composites. (Because every 2010 team has zero stats for this baseball year).

                      #2: SCEA's rankings are composite rankings of all the individual fielders on a team. The 2009 Mets are not composed of the exact same players as the 2010 Mets are. The game's rankings are obtained by taking each individual player, isolating them into their own team, then combining all the stats of all the isolated players to create the stats for the "team". These are then ranked and that's how you get the rankings. Throw any and all merged team stats out the window.

                      Ok so lets take the mets by their weakness on Defense. Their team hasn't changed that much at all. Bay is an AVG defender, Losing Delgado will help on defense, but Barajas and Santos aren't anything special behind the plate. Castillo is AVG at best at 2nd. Beltran is hurt, meaning Martinez who is dreadful in the OF may be patrolling CF. I dont see how the team changed that much? You say team stats don't matter, but those team stats are based on INDIVIDUAL stats. Meaning if Castillo has an error, it goes on his stats and the team stats. So as the Mets go player by player they are an VERY AVG defensive team and have been for years. They constantly make tons of errors and bone head plays with the same pretty much core this year and what happens?! They get the reward of being the 2nd best defensive team in baseball?!

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                      • CubsFan96
                        Rookie
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 17

                        #311
                        Cubs at #9 overall... Awww Yea
                        Sports Fan

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                        • ParisB
                          MVP
                          • Jan 2010
                          • 1699

                          #312
                          Re: MLB '10: The Show Official Team Ratings and Explanation

                          Originally posted by Joepman
                          But it cuts both ways. Safeco may make the M's pitchers look better than they actually are, but it also makes their hitters look worse than they actually were.
                          they were even worse on the road

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                          • Cras
                            Rookie
                            • Apr 2008
                            • 230

                            #313
                            Re: MLB '10: The Show Official Team Ratings and Explanation

                            Indians ranked last? Yup, sounds right to me!
                            I will see you at THE SHOW!!

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                            • FoxHoundADAM
                              Rookie
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 17

                              #314
                              Re: MLB '10: The Show Official Team Ratings and Explanation

                              I'm still in shock at my Cards rankings. I understand your logic behind it but are the benches and relief pitching weighted at all?

                              I'm OK with the Batting/Defense as the batting does drop off a little after Pujols/Holliday but cetainly they have at least a top 10 pitching staff, if not top 5.

                              The first time I saw that in that game my jaw hit the floor, I honestly thought there was some kind of bug, like they hadn't put Holliday on the roater, or they had Carp on the DL or something. Good to know I wasn't the only one.

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                              • Dabeeds
                                Banned
                                • Feb 2005
                                • 326

                                #315
                                Re: MLB '10: The Show Official Team Ratings and Explanation

                                Swapping Tatis to the Cards made them go from 20 to 13 in hitting ???? Lol
                                Bench players should have less of an impact on the ratings compared to everyday players.

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