MLB '10: The Show - Top 5 Left Fielders

**burds13** · 02-24-2010, 08:04 PM

Re: MLB '10: The Show Top 5 Left Fielders

Crawford's obviously a very good player... but let's not miss the bowl while urinating, here.

He's certainly not a top five offensive left fielder over the past 3 years. Obviously he is very good defensively and great on the bases, and I agree he should be higher than 9... but not ahead of anyone in the top five.

http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx...01&position=of

**Derek2Jeter** · 02-24-2010, 08:09 PM

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Where's Brett Gardner?!?!?!? WTF

haha jkjk people im just kidding.

**GEORGE LUZ** · 02-24-2010, 08:27 PM

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This list is based on overall, not just offense. Overall is a combo of contact, power, fielding, speed, and other. Manny and Bay should both be F's at fielding and speed. Crawford is an A speed and should be an A at defense too. And it's not like Crawford is awful at offense, he is a career .295 hitter. And Manny is 37; these lists should take age into account more.

**ty5oke** · 02-24-2010, 08:34 PM

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Originally posted by klb835

the most realistic game has the most unrealistic ratings hahaha

first vazquez is rated better than cc sabathia
second jose reyes better then ramirez
third crawford 9th? behind juan rivera? HOLY CRAP I just about passed out. Good job on the realism "sigh" Looks like some editing will need to be done

I don't think Javy is better than CC but it might not be as far off as you think.

Last year stats:

Sabathia 19-8 3.37 ERA 230 IP 197 K's 1.15 WHIP

Vazquez 15-10 2.87 ERA 219 IP 238 K's 1.03 WHIP

**Derek2Jeter** · 02-24-2010, 08:40 PM

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Originally posted by ty5oke

I don't think Javy is better than CC but it might not be as far off as you think.

Last year stats:

Sabathia 19-8 3.37 ERA 230 IP 197 K's 1.15 WHIP

Vazquez 15-10 2.87 ERA 219 IP 238 K's 1.03 WHIP

I can definitely understand why they rated Javy so high. I don't think they take into account about the division they play in.

**EnigmaNemesis** · 02-24-2010, 08:43 PM

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Originally posted by ty5oke

I don't think Javy is better than CC but it might not be as far off as you think.

Last year stats:

Sabathia 19-8 3.37 ERA 230 IP 197 K's 1.15 WHIP

Vazquez 15-10 2.87 ERA 219 IP 238 K's 1.03 WHIP

Their stat logic clearly does not take into account going from National League to American League usually nets a full run added to the ERA as a good rule of thumb. (generally)

Thus it saw Vasquez as a hair better, but we know how his last stints were in the American League, as well as CC before National, during National and back to American League.

Vasquez always excelled in the National League, he had solid last three years with the Expos too.

Originally posted by ty5oke

True.. but I don't think they take into account run support either.

That too. As well as division mentioned (league)

**ty5oke** · 02-24-2010, 08:43 PM

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Originally posted by Derek2Jeter

I can definitely understand why they rated Javy so high. I don't think they take into account about the division they play in.

True.. but I don't think they take into account run support either.

**JoeCoolMan24** · 02-24-2010, 10:11 PM

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Originally posted by EnigmaNemesis

Why do people keep saying Manny has no arm. Yes he isn't that great of a fielder, but he is more a Guerrero arm than Johnny Damon.

He has 128 career assists in his 17 seasons (impressive for a man with no arm

). Very under-rated in that category due to his sloppy routine play.

Seen him gun guys down at home without a cutoff in left at Fenway, as well as runners not getting back to first in time on outs which thought the same of him and his arm.

That's because he had a massive wall that was very close to him. A throw from LF to Home at Fenway is what, 180 feet? And guys run more on people who have bad arms, so if everyone is running on Manny's arm, he is more likely to get assists. No one runs on Ichiro, so he gets a lot less attempts to gun anyone down.

**ParisB** · 02-24-2010, 10:18 PM

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Originally posted by slickkill77

Juan Rivera is better than Carl Crawford? Really? No really? Guy is a walking injury. This just shows how badly baseball games value defense and speed. Its a joke

Yes, he is.

Just because he has been injury prone, what does that have to do with him having a better year than Crawford?

LOL, some of you homers amaze me sometimes.....

**EnigmaNemesis** · 02-24-2010, 10:21 PM

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Originally posted by JoeCoolMan24

That's because he had a massive wall that was very close to him. A throw from LF to Home at Fenway is what, 180 feet? And guys run more on people who have bad arms, so if everyone is running on Manny's arm, he is more likely to get assists. No one runs on Ichiro, so he gets a lot less attempts to gun anyone down.

There will always be someone to come up with excuses for stats.

Bottom line is, they test him and he gets assists. It is what it is, so maybe they should learn. The guy has a pretty accurate throw and doesn't throw Damon Ducks.

**Eman5805** · 02-24-2010, 10:22 PM

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Braun's stance looks different, like maybe a generic. Suppose it'll be hidden again and he'll use it in game though.

**ParisB** · 02-24-2010, 11:21 PM

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Originally posted by klb835

the most realistic game has the most unrealistic ratings hahaha

first vazquez is rated better than cc sabathia
second jose reyes better then ramirez
third crawford 9th? behind juan rivera? HOLY CRAP I just about passed out. Good job on the realism "sigh" Looks like some editing will need to be done

they all seem perfectly fine to me.

vazquez had a better year than Sabathia, Rivera had a better year than Crawford, and Reyes is one of the best in the game when he's healthy

what's the big deal? bottom line they're all good players separated by very little

does it really matter if a player is 5th instead of 4th?

LOL

**jcabler24** · 02-24-2010, 11:40 PM

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Im the biggest Ranger fan there is, and I dont believe Hamilton is the 2nd best LF in the game. Top 4-6 range yes, but not #2. I think he needs more consistent numbers over the next few years.

Having Crawford that low is a joke in my opinion.

**redsox4ever** · 02-25-2010, 02:16 AM

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Originally posted by metsman8669

It's how he does against LH pitchers.

Thanks for the help. After i posted this i did realize what it meant but for a while there i was puzzled must just be getting old and slowly losing my memory. I guess i haven't played the game in a while. Well once again thanks for the reply.

**BatsareBugs** · 02-25-2010, 02:28 AM

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It appears to me based on the overall bars, we have four ties including a three way for 7-9. At that point RANKINGS DO NOT MATTER.

However, from the looks of it, the top 9 appear to be all in the "A" range overall.

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