MLB '10: The Show Review

[Dreifort]

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What I find funny about sports game reviews is the games are always compared to last year's versions and that's it. Madden 10 is better than Madden 09. MLB 10 isn't much of a jump from MLB 09.

I haven't played a baseball game since MLB 2K7. I don't care about MLB 09 vs MLB 10. All I care about is MLB 10 as a PS3 game in 2010. How good is the game in the life of the PS3? We need reviewers that don't assume we've played last year's iteration. This game stands alone for me. Review it that way. Or at least present that point of view.

I would guess near 75% of those buying MLB10 are doing so because they are prev purchasers of the MLB: The Show series. So a review comparing 10 to 09 makes a lot of sense when the target audience is made up primarily of MLB09 owners.

[lewski19]

new problem I just found...

You know how it tells you to switch positions if you want to leave a pinch hitter for the pitcher in the game? Well, every time I try to do that I get told that I cannot change positions with the pitcher, therefore I can never leave the pinch hitter in the game. Come on Sony, this is common sense stuff, did you even play this game before releasing it?

[Segagendude]

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new problem I just found...

You know how it tells you to switch positions if you want to leave a pinch hitter for the pitcher in the game? Well, every time I try to do that I get told that I cannot change positions with the pitcher, therefore I can never leave the pinch hitter in the game. Come on Sony, this is common sense stuff, did you even play this game before releasing it?

1) This belongs in the Bugs and Glitches thread.

2) Workaround here:

-"The double switch is broken....it says to sub for pitcher but won't allow me to"
I believe this was patched in the 1st patch. It does work....but after you go through those first screens saying to sub....hit continue...then click X on the pitcher again. You will now see the double switch option come up.
Some report problems if you back out...so make sure it's what you want before you start the DS.

[Braves Fan]

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Well here are my thoughts on the review and the game itself.

Pitching Meter - don't use it and I don't care for it. I'm a classic pitching guy, always have been. I don't like the extra stuff on the screen, it distracts me. When I'm playing I want it to look like I'm watching a game. That's why I don't use the guess pitch feature, strike zone, PCI, or any other things that take away from the beauty of the game. I am a x button swinger only, always have been and always will be. I hope they never take that option away.

Franchise mode is what is holding this game back from being absolutely amazing. This is what I want the development team to spend all their time focusing on for 2011. Gameplay is not that bad, there are a few glitches here or there but overall it's pretty good. Franchise needs all their attention imo. The option needs to be there where you can go with a single team franchise and compete vs the CPU. Realistic moves need to be made, logic needs to be applied, payrolls need to be accurate, lineups need to be right, injuries need to be realistic as well. I don't know how they can get it to work right but it needs a lot of improvement. I can deal with the work arounds right now but I'm hoping next year they won't be necessary.

The review was solid, it focused on the positives and negatives and at the end of the day encouraged gamers to go out and buy it. It was honest and to the point, didn't come off as praising or bashing the game imo.

[ballin095]

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I am sure I will get ripped for saying this, but this game is not anywhere close to MVP 05, this game is slightly better than last year's game, which was good. It has a couple glaring errors that were present last year and still have not been addressed.

First, the baserunning is quite possibly the worst in video game baseball history. To many runners get picked off -whether trying to steal or not, and by righties and lefties. It is insane that in a three game series Carl Crawford was picked off 6 of the 8 times he got on base (only 3 of the 6 was I actually trying to steal and 2 of them I did not even have any extra lead, also I never take more than one step bc the computer then just throws over till you stop).

The number of times runners get picked off is just stupid, and it leads in to the other flaw in the running game. The other flaw is that runners stealing can slide and be half way over the base and will be called out. This error drives me nuts, it is almost as bad as the useless check swing system that seems to be a complete coin-flip. I get that people get thrown out stealing, but usually if they are lying on second base when the ball gets there they are safe.

The other baserunning problem is balls down the line. You can hit a ball into the corner and get thrown out going for a double with all but the absolute fastest runners. It seems to be a result largely of that fact that every computer controlled right and left fielder plays the ball off the wall or down the line perfectly, yet also still manages to cover the gap perfectly as well, not sure how that's possible, and then also has an incredibly accurate arm.

Balls into the corner are doubles, balls down the line are usually doubles in general, unless the of is way over toward the line, or in the case of MLB The Show maybe all computer of's are Bugs Bunny.

The other major flaw is in the in-game fast forward where the computer team is amazingly adept at 6 and 7 run innings. In playing 20 games using fast forward for all my pitching (playing with Atlanta's staff with Cliff Lee instead of Kawakami, so a pretty good staff) the computer scored 6 or 7 runs in an inning 11 times. Somebody might wanna research how many times major league teams scored that many runs in an inning last year, bc I am betting it was nowhere near the rate of one every other game. If you are not willing to program the statistics to correctly handle fast forward then do not have it in the game.

Sadly, stuff like this ruins many games for me. I get frustrated with an inability to play a pressure style for fear of getting picked off or thrown out going for a double, or disheartened when my staff gives up 7 runs every couple innings, and there is no reason to finish the game.

I know that these games are never going to be perfect, but these seem like pretty basic problems. The baserunning and pickoffs especially. The saddest part is that if they had just left the sliders from the 2008 game in the game where we could adjust everything to our liking most of these could be fixed for me. I could slow down there outfielders, etc. Unfortunately, last year, SCEA decided that they would tell us how to play the game and drastically limited our choices. I cannot afford to fix the universal sliders, my only option, to these parameters bc the cpu already gets its doubles, stolen bases, and never gets picked off so it would just further hurt my cause.

I think it's a okay to good game, but for it to be great the basics have to be done better.

Also, on a side note, could somebody please tell me why every time you hit a ground ball foul to the stands some idiot falls onto the field. I know it happens, and I like the attempt to create more fan interaction, but not every time please.

interesting post there, nice read

[Bellsprout]

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The other baserunning problem is balls down the line. You can hit a ball into the corner and get thrown out going for a double with all but the absolute fastest runners. It seems to be a result largely of that fact that every computer controlled right and left fielder plays the ball off the wall or down the line perfectly, yet also still manages to cover the gap perfectly as well, not sure how that's possible, and then also has an incredibly accurate arm.

Considering I have Casey McGehee in the top 5 in the MLB in doubles in my Franchise, I feel like you must be doing something wrong. The only time I get thrown out going to second is if the outfielder cuts the ball off before it hits the wall or if it's a freaking bullet that gets down the line too quickly.

[Braves Fan]

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I never played MVP '05, what was so great about it? I've watched videos on youtube and I was not impressed at all. Everyone keeps talking about what a legendary game it was though.

I'd much rather play '10 than that one, even with all the glitches.

[lewski19]

maybe i am, and if you can fix it please tell, but it happens to me all the time, happened earlier today with nate mclouth on a ball down the line and up against the wall foul towards the corner at turner field. never seen anybody thrown out from there in a game and i have covered the braves for a year, along with living in atlanta my whole life.

[lewski19]

1) This belongs in the Bugs and Glitches thread.

2) Workaround here:
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thanks, i figured somebody had already had that problem, and i posted it in the bugs and glitches section at sony, but i did not think about that here, thanks for letting me know about the update, but i already have that patch and it is still doing the same thing. tried the work around, but it does not work after the fact, hopefully they will get it fixed with the patch coming in april. thanks.

[lewski19]

I never played MVP '05, what was so great about it? I've watched videos on youtube and I was not impressed at all. Everyone keeps talking about what a legendary game it was though.

I'd much rather play '10 than that one, even with all the glitches.

you may be right about mvp 05, i have not played it in over 2 years and we all tend to remember things as better than they actually were. however, i do know that i found far fewer glaring issues when i played mvp. i have only ever posted complaints about 3 games. last years' mlb the show and this years' being two of them. not they the games are bad, far from it, but it just frustrates me how close it is to being great if not for these seemingly obvious problems.

[rondoman]

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Problem with MVP 05 IMO is that painting the corners was WAY TOO EASY!!!

You could literally do it like 98% of the time. The meter was to responsive in my opinion even on the hardest settings.

And if painting the corners is too easy, it really takes away from the pitcher/batter battles and in turn takes away from the game as a whole. I remember playing against my friends and we would always have 1-0 and 2-1 scores all the time cuz pitching was near impossible to hit if someone knew what they were doing.

[rondoman]

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maybe i am, and if you can fix it please tell, but it happens to me all the time, happened earlier today with nate mclouth on a ball down the line and up against the wall foul towards the corner at turner field. never seen anybody thrown out from there in a game and i have covered the braves for a year, along with living in atlanta my whole life.

Turn the fielder speed down, this should help.

[osubeavs721]

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I never played MVP '05, what was so great about it? I've watched videos on youtube and I was not impressed at all. Everyone keeps talking about what a legendary game it was though.

I'd much rather play '10 than that one, even with all the glitches.

i still have it on pc and play it, if the show had its franchise mode the show would be hands down the best baseball game ever. in MVP 05 you get control of MLB, AAA, AA, A (and its a full 24 or 25 man roster and you can play the games) So when you draft guys they played rookie ball aka A ball and moved up. Its rare a real life pitcher throws the ball exactly where he wants it everytime
Im a fan of The Show's meter pitching, i love it. I love how its accurate yet inaccurate.
Pitching is better in The Show. Hell i like the fielding meter in the circle, you have to adapt to it, thats nice.
Batting is better in MVP, the show 09 was the first one i bought and this years game was the first time i actually got a bloop single, mvp did that in 2005.
Again Franchise is waaaay better.
To me MVP is 1A and The show is 1A.5, its that close.
If you have never played it, then dont judge it on videos on youtube. Its a really great game, so is the show. I play both and enjoy both still and MVP 05 is the only game i can still bother playing from last gen, thats how well its held up

[Braves Fan]

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Why did MVP stop? Why didn't they continue to make games?

Franchise sounded awesome man, I'd love for the Show to pick up on that but the way I look at it they are adding a little bet every year. Last year they brought us 40 man roster and arbitration hearings, this year they added waiver claims and a hold over Class A roster. Who's to say what's next? Maybe they need to fix their current franchise though before they worry about adding anything else.

[osubeavs721]

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Why did MVP stop? Why didn't they continue to make games?

Franchise sounded awesome man, I'd love for the Show to pick up on that but the way I look at it they are adding a little bet every year. Last year they brought us 40 man roster and arbitration hearings, this year they added waiver claims and a hold over Class A roster. Who's to say what's next? Maybe they need to fix their current franchise though before they worry about adding anything else.

2k bought the 3rd party license to the MLB, hence why the show can be made because Sony well owns SCEA and its a first party game. I really was hoping microsoft studios would have hired the MVP team and made Inside Pitch for the 360. Inside Pitch was a pretty good baseball game in its own right, they had some good offerings but MVP was too strong, back then