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  • funkybudda
    Rookie
    • Mar 2010
    • 10

    #16
    Re: classic pitch interface question

    Originally posted by baseball66
    The more i'm playing the less i think there is anymore to it than simply tapping the button. Holding does show a slight increase in speed but other than that i really don't think there is any point in timing the release of the button.
    Oh really? I am a new player to this game series, but from past several weeks of reading on various forums, it seems the elite players are saying the classic pitching requires more skills... Does that mean it is actually easier to pitch using classic?

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    • GoStros
      Rookie
      • Feb 2003
      • 272

      #17
      Re: classic pitch interface question

      Originally posted by funkybudda
      Oh really? I am a new player to this game series, but from past several weeks of reading on various forums, it seems the elite players are saying the classic pitching requires more skills... Does that mean it is actually easier to pitch using classic?
      Iam new to the series also but I do know classic pitching brings a whole realistic feel to the game. I thank you for the classic control tutorial. I noticed all pitchers have there own release areas and it's up to u to find his comfort spot for the best affectiveness. All pitchers have a different release point from the wind-up to the stretch.
      Hope this is helpful guys!

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      • chuckm1961
        MVP
        • Mar 2005
        • 1429

        #18
        Re: classic pitch interface question

        Here's what I notice, and I'm baffled....

        If I hold the button LONGER, I would expect that I would be MORE wild ... more effort making for more variety in results.

        But it seems like if I hold the button LONGER and release just as the pitcher is bringing his arm forward, I get better control of pitches on a consistent basis.

        Like last night, I could not throw a friggin' strike on a Slider with Zambrano, until I concentrated on releasing the button just as he brought his arm forward .... and walla, strikes! Same thing with his four-seamer and other pitches.
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        • malachijohn666
          Rookie
          • Apr 2009
          • 309

          #19
          Re: classic pitch interface question

          Hmm this is interesting. I am a total devotee of classic pitching. I like it for a couple of key reasons.

          1. I can now watch the pitching animation without fear of looking away from a meter. I mean what is the point of having killer graphics if you can't look at them.

          2. I like the fact that it now really is crucial if your players have good ratings. If you have a player that is up in the Majors too early you really know. I can't remember the players name but he was a call up and I walked three guys and gave up three hits before I yanked him.

          All in all the pitching style is a preference, but I think classic is much better on a lot of counts IMO.

          If you are using it and don't like the variation then just move the pitcher control slider up one notch and you will notice a big difference.

          Also, I usually release the pitch button just a micro second before the peak of the leg lift on the delivery. I get the best results that way. I found that when I pitch it too hard the fastballs take off high and out of the zone.
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          • chuckm1961
            MVP
            • Mar 2005
            • 1429

            #20
            Re: classic pitch interface question

            Originally posted by GoStros
            Iam new to the series also but I do know classic pitching brings a whole realistic feel to the game. I thank you for the classic control tutorial. I noticed all pitchers have there own release areas and it's up to u to find his comfort spot for the best affectiveness. All pitchers have a different release point from the wind-up to the stretch.
            Hope this is helpful guys!
            This is not the first time someone has posted that "each pitcher has a different release point" for Classic Pitching.

            Which brings up another thing that has baffled me about Classic for years (I love it, don't get me wrong, would never use Meter) ....

            The implication of the above statement is that each pitcher has a precise moment when it is "best" to release the button. So ... isn't that just Meter pitching but without the meter? I thought using Classic, I was leaving some of the result up to the pitcher's ratings, essentially to chance, but influenced by ratings for control, effectiveness of pitch.

            With Classic, there should not (should there?) be ONE MOMENT that is the best for each pitcher. I think you are over-simplifying things. Or at least I hope so.
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            • baseball66
              Banned
              • Mar 2009
              • 1505

              #21
              Re: classic pitch interface question

              I'm still standing by my statement that classic pitching is simply attribute driven.

              Timing the button release is only a placebo effect. The only difference i've seen regarding holding the button longer is MPH increases slightly.

              By far the best way to pitch though.
              Last edited by baseball66; 03-22-2010, 11:31 AM.

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              • funkybudda
                Rookie
                • Mar 2010
                • 10

                #22
                Re: classic pitch interface question

                Originally posted by baseball66
                I'm still standing by my statement that classic pitching is simply attribute driven.

                Timing the button release is only a placebo effect. The only difference i've seen regarding holding the button longer is MPH increases slightly.

                By far the best way to pitch though.

                hmm, I will give the classic style few days of try and see how it goes. But if you are right, then those who say classic is more hardcore or realistic is wrong, at least in the aspect of saying it requires more skills...

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                • chuckm1961
                  MVP
                  • Mar 2005
                  • 1429

                  #23
                  Re: classic pitch interface question

                  Originally posted by funkybudda
                  hmm, I will give the classic style few days of try and see how it goes. But if you are right, then those who say classic is more hardcore or realistic is wrong, at least in the aspect of saying it requires more skills...
                  Who said classic requires more skills? What skills?

                  Classic (supposedly) takes button-mashing out of the picture, and gives more realistic numbers (in theory) because it is more rating-based.
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                  • baseball66
                    Banned
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 1505

                    #24
                    Re: classic pitch interface question

                    Originally posted by chuckm1961
                    Who said classic requires more skills? What skills?

                    Classic (supposedly) takes button-mashing out of the picture, and gives more realistic numbers (in theory) because it is more rating-based.
                    Yes exactly! That is why i said it's the best way to pitch and the most realistic. No button mashing strictly attributes.

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                    • findinghomer
                      Pro
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 550

                      #25
                      Re: classic pitch interface question

                      Originally posted by baseball66
                      I'm still standing by my statement that classic pitching is simply attribute driven.

                      Timing the button release is only a placebo effect. The only difference i've seen regarding holding the button longer is MPH increases slightly.

                      By far the best way to pitch though.

                      not entirely. try tapping the pitch everytime. its consistantly not accurate. now hold the button. depending on your pitcher it becomes more accurate, with more velocity. sometimes more break, but does seem random at times this is where i think attributes kick in.

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                      • Dabeeds
                        Banned
                        • Feb 2005
                        • 326

                        #26
                        Re: classic pitch interface question

                        Classic, without the ball marker, strike zone AND vibration is the sht.

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                        • chuckm1961
                          MVP
                          • Mar 2005
                          • 1429

                          #27
                          Re: classic pitch interface question

                          Originally posted by findinghomer
                          not entirely. try tapping the pitch everytime. its consistantly not accurate
                          Yes! This is counter-intuitive to me. If I "let up" on the pitch, shouldn't I be MORE accurate?

                          Yet if you just tap the button, as you say, it seems the ball is rarely anywhere near where you want it.
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                          • modore
                            Rookie
                            • Nov 2003
                            • 338

                            #28
                            Re: classic pitch interface question

                            I use classic without strike zone, or vibration or any other aids.
                            It's nice to have my pitcher "lose it" once in awhile and can't find the strike zone. Walks are definitely up this year.

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                            • Titus1108
                              Banned
                              • Mar 2010
                              • 335

                              #29
                              Re: classic pitch interface question

                              Originally posted by baseball66
                              I'm still standing by my statement that classic pitching is simply attribute driven.

                              Timing the button release is only a placebo effect. The only difference i've seen regarding holding the button longer is MPH increases slightly.

                              By far the best way to pitch though.

                              I agree! I love using classic pitching, and what you said here is so true. If you tap the button, the accuracy is still the same(random). If you hold the button longer, it's still the same with random accuracy(depending on the pitchers control/attributes), but with just a few MPH difference sometimes. Sometimes however, I notce that when holding it, the speed(mph) is still the same as it were when I just tap the button.


                              Fr those that play with classic, and ball marker off, strike zone off, and vibration off...HOW DO U DO THAT?!? I would think that I'd be walking guys all over the place! I play with strike zone, ball marker and vibration ON, and still walk at least 2 per game. Any tips on how to play the way you guys do, cuz that would be awesome to play like that and just watch the animations!

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                              • modore
                                Rookie
                                • Nov 2003
                                • 338

                                #30
                                Re: classic pitch interface question

                                Originally posted by Titus1108
                                I agree! I love using classic pitching, and what you said here is so true. If you tap the button, the accuracy is still the same(random). If you hold the button longer, it's still the same with random accuracy(depending on the pitchers control/attributes), but with just a few MPH difference sometimes. Sometimes however, I notce that when holding it, the speed(mph) is still the same as it were when I just tap the button.


                                Fr those that play with classic, and ball marker off, strike zone off, and vibration off...HOW DO U DO THAT?!? I would think that I'd be walking guys all over the place! I play with strike zone, ball marker and vibration ON, and still walk at least 2 per game. Any tips on how to play the way you guys do, cuz that would be awesome to play like that and just watch the animations!
                                You just have to sort of "feel" where to put the left joystick to locate your pitch. Down and in to a right-handed batter is down is about 7 o'clock on the left joystick. It's more like real pitching this way. No cheats. I've walked 5 in five innings with one pitcher. And, that's just playing a few exhibitions. I'm waiting to start a season.

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