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  • roolz
    Pro
    • Jan 2009
    • 665

    #106
    Re: MLB '10: The Show Patch #2 is Available, Post Impressions Here

    5 minutes here as well (wireless) but I cant play the game yet as the misses has plans for me... not the good kind either

    Cant wait to crack on though, its almost like release day all over again!
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    • Braves Fan
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      • Mar 2009
      • 1151

      #107
      Re: ***Offical MLB 10: The Show Patch Impression Thread***

      Originally posted by Skyboxer
      AWESOME!

      As for the "trades issue"... if having 100% "realistic" accurate trades are for you just set up your franchise to handle it that way. I look at it as my fantasy world... so if something happens that "MIGHT" not happen in real world so be it.
      In any case you can set up the franchise to mimic exactly what the rel MLB does so thumbs up SCEA!
      Here is my problem with the trade logic. They will have a team trade for a position they don't need. For example in the last sim I did I saw a Lance Berkman for Clayton Kershaw swap. That makes no sense, first of all the Dodgers wouldn't trade Kershaw and 2nd of all what are they going to do with Loney? Sit him on the bench?

      That's my #1 issue with trades in this game. I don't have to have them mirror real life. I know they won't but I want them to make sense.

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      • roolz
        Pro
        • Jan 2009
        • 665

        #108
        Re: ***Offical MLB 10: The Show Patch Impression Thread***

        Originally posted by Braves Fan
        Here is my problem with the trade logic. They will have a team trade for a position they don't need. For example in the last sim I did I saw a Lance Berkman for Clayton Kershaw swap. That makes no sense, first of all the Dodgers wouldn't trade Kershaw and 2nd of all what are they going to do with Loney? Sit him on the bench?

        That's my #1 issue with trades in this game. I don't have to have them mirror real life. I know they won't but I want them to make sense.
        I can see your point there, the only other aspect that you could 'defend' the AI on with that is; I believe Berkman has a large expiring deal... that way the Dodgers get him for x games this year, then he is off their payroll, where as Kershaw could have a multi year deal that they dont fancy carrying.

        Im just speculating, but thats the sort of things I also keep in mind when deals go down.. on the field it might not be ideal, but off it, that could be just what the team wants?
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        • ComfortablyLomb
          MVP
          • Sep 2003
          • 3548

          #109
          Re: MLB '10: The Show Patch #2 is Available, Post Impressions Here

          Originally posted by cardsleadtheway
          Haha, in a test sim, Boston also signed Manny in the off season. Some people are just slow learners.
          I saw the Yankees trade AJ Burnett for Hideki Matsui when I was simming. I Lol'd.

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          • RyanLeaf16
            MVP
            • Dec 2007
            • 1002

            #110
            Re: ***Offical MLB 10: The Show Patch Impression Thread***

            Originally posted by roolz
            I can see your point there, the only other aspect that you could 'defend' the AI on with that is; I believe Berkman has a large expiring deal... that way the Dodgers get him for x games this year, then he is off their payroll, where as Kershaw could have a multi year deal that they dont fancy carrying.

            Im just speculating, but thats the sort of things I also keep in mind when deals go down.. on the field it might not be ideal, but off it, that could be just what the team wants?
            Kershaw doesn't have a large deal IRL (he isn't even arb-eligible yet). However, the game may have him making significantly more??? May just be an oversight with Kershaw's contract in the game...that certainly wouldn't ruin the game for me though.

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            • ocho cuatro
              Rookie
              • May 2009
              • 300

              #111
              Re: MLB '10: The Show Patch #2 is Available, Post Impressions Here

              Originally posted by Skyboxer
              It is. Don't hit Select.
              That sounds way too complicated. Isn't there any easier way?

              :wink:

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              • Braves Fan
                MVP
                • Mar 2009
                • 1151

                #112
                Re: ***Offical MLB 10: The Show Patch Impression Thread***

                Originally posted by roolz
                I can see your point there, the only other aspect that you could 'defend' the AI on with that is; I believe Berkman has a large expiring deal... that way the Dodgers get him for x games this year, then he is off their payroll, where as Kershaw could have a multi year deal that they dont fancy carrying.

                Im just speculating, but thats the sort of things I also keep in mind when deals go down.. on the field it might not be ideal, but off it, that could be just what the team wants?
                If that's the case the deal would go down like this.

                Loney, Kershaw, and a prospect for Berkman. You wouldn't trade for Berkman and keep Loney.

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                • Skyboxer
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                  • Jul 2002
                  • 20302

                  #113
                  Re: ***Offical MLB 10: The Show Patch Impression Thread***

                  Originally posted by Braves Fan
                  Here is my problem with the trade logic. They will have a team trade for a position they don't need. For example in the last sim I did I saw a Lance Berkman for Clayton Kershaw swap. That makes no sense, first of all the Dodgers wouldn't trade Kershaw and 2nd of all what are they going to do with Loney? Sit him on the bench?

                  That's my #1 issue with trades in this game. I don't have to have them mirror real life. I know they won't but I want them to make sense.

                  To make sure trades aren't wacky (and I agree those aren't very "smart" lol ) we can still set franchise up in a way to prevent the dumb trades though right? Conntrol 30 teams then when a "off the wall" trade happens we can go in and correct it...?

                  I'm sure there may have been games with a bit better trade logic but I don't think we'll ever have a game with perfect trade logic as there's just too much human factor you can't program in.

                  When we do get that in a game, 12 hours later they will become self aware and it won't matter anyways....
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                  • ManiacMatt1782
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                    • Jul 2006
                    • 3982

                    #114
                    Re: ***Offical MLB 10: The Show Patch Impression Thread***

                    Originally posted by Braves Fan
                    If that's the case the deal would go down like this.

                    Loney, Kershaw, and a prospect for Berkman. You wouldn't trade for Berkman and keep Loney.
                    no you keep loney and when berkmans contract expires you essentially dumped kershaws huge salary to make a splash a different free agent.
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                    • pistolpete
                      MVP
                      • Jun 2004
                      • 1816

                      #115
                      Re: ***Offical MLB 10: The Show Patch Impression Thread***

                      There are some big trades, but it seems a player only gets dealt once and not over and over and over.

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                      • Chef Matt
                        True.
                        • Apr 2008
                        • 7832

                        #116
                        Re: ***Offical MLB 10: The Show Patch Impression Thread***

                        Originally posted by Skyboxer

                        When we do get that in a game, 12 hours later they will become self aware and it won't matter anyways....
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                        • jeremym480
                          Speak it into existence
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 18198

                          #117
                          Re: ***Offical MLB 10: The Show Patch Impression Thread***

                          Originally posted by Skyboxer
                          To make sure trades aren't wacky (and I agree those aren't very "smart" lol ) we can still set franchise up in a way to prevent the dumb trades though right? Conntrol 30 teams then when a "off the wall" trade happens we can go in and correct it...?

                          I'm sure there may have been games with a bit better trade logic but I don't think we'll ever have a game with perfect trade logic as there's just too much human factor you can't program in.

                          When we do get that in a game, 12 hours later they will become self aware and it won't matter anyways....
                          This. Since you can basically control any team, at any time.

                          I'm planning on only controlling "my team". However, if I see something that is out of whack (which I can justify most of the moves) then, I'll consider compensating the team that I feel got cheated. Like in the trade mentioned, I might add Loney with Krenshaw for Berkman (or something similar but first I factor in a the variables- like contact, age. potential, etc). However, with that being said, I don't see myself compensating other team too much.
                          Last edited by jeremym480; 03-18-2010, 03:20 PM.
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                          • Braves Fan
                            MVP
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 1151

                            #118
                            Re: ***Offical MLB 10: The Show Patch Impression Thread***

                            Originally posted by jeremym480
                            This. Since you can basically control any team, at any time.

                            I'm planning on only controlling "my team". However, if I see something that is out of whack (which I can justify most of the moves) then, I'll consider compensating the team that I feel got cheated. Like in the trade mentioned, I might add Loney with Krenshaw for Berkman (or something similar but first I factor in a the variables- like contact, age. potential, etc). However, with that being said, I don't see myself compensating other team too much.
                            That's not a bad idea, teams don't usually trade with each other until June at the earliest though so you could keep it on manual until then. I think you are going to notice a lot of trades start to pop up in May. I think that's a bit unrealistic, teams don't start trading that early.

                            I've got a question, I have instant trades off and since I've already started my franchise there is no way for me to fix it. If I want to go fix a trade I have to wait two days right? I can't just go fix a trade the same day can I?

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                            • JayD
                              All Star
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 5457

                              #119
                              Re: MLB '10: The Show Patch #2 is Available, Post Impressions Here

                              Does the computer claim players off waivers? I saw a post a few pages back that he has seen zero claims by the cpu. Also are players called up and sent down by their performance or is it still just due to injuries?

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                              • Padgoi
                                Banned
                                • Oct 2008
                                • 1873

                                #120
                                Re: MLB '10: The Show Patch #2 is Available, Post Impressions Here

                                Originally posted by ComfortablyLomb
                                I saw the Yankees trade AJ Burnett for Hideki Matsui when I was simming. I Lol'd.
                                Same deal as the others, Matsui has an expiring one-year contract, Burnett doesn't.

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