I didn't know Ozzie Smith and Brooks Robinson still played...

[slickkill77]

Re: I didn't know Ozzie Smith and Brooks Robinson still played...

You have a thing for John Madden I see...

[Myloman]

Re: I didn't know Ozzie Smith and Brooks Robinson still played...

No it doesn't.

[CPT]

Re: I didn't know Ozzie Smith and Brooks Robinson still played...

You have a think for John Madden I see...

no idea what you mean man

[FluffyTonka]

Re: I didn't know Ozzie Smith and Brooks Robinson still played...

I get what the OP is saying ...

I just played a series Vs the redsox right after playing the Blue Jays ... Defensively speaking there was no or little difference.

Gonzalez was making the same diving plays and pinpoint throws as Scuturo at SS ... Vernon Wells was running down flyballs and making sliding catches in LF, no different to what Jacoby was doing for the sox ... The Blue Jays even had to call up a minor leaguer at 2B after hill was injured. You wouldn't have know, he was anticipating the ball, diving and making turnaround throws on the run ...

For defense to play a bigger part in the game, is there slider settings we could utilize so the great defensive players are the only ones making gold glove calibre / all star plays?

I notice subtle differences in the infield (mainly with throw speeds and accuracy) but in general, I average seeing one error every 2 to 3 games.

I don't mind having Jacoby run down a line drive, make a dive and come up with the ball ... But when guys like Travis Snyder and Vernon Wells are looking like Ichiro and Mike Cameron in the outfield, something is wrong.

[budsticky]

Re: I didn't know Ozzie Smith and Brooks Robinson still played...

The representation of defense in this game is probably my major issue with the game. More specifically, the large amount of highlight reel type plays that are made by every player regardless of fielding ability. Forget the MLB players. The AA guys I play against in my RTTS career make the great plays regularly as well.

[Whitesox]

Re: I didn't know Ozzie Smith and Brooks Robinson still played...

Things like that are supposed to happen but defense is a year long thing. It comes up in every game. Not just every so often. The best example I can give is the fact that you could put Jeter in CF, Johnny Damon at C, Adam Dunn at 3B and you wouldn't see a dramatic difference.

Have you tried this?

[idesign2]

Re: I didn't know Ozzie Smith and Brooks Robinson still played...

The representation of defense in this game is probably my major issue with the game. More specifically, the large amount of highlight reel type plays that are made by every player regardless of fielding ability. Forget the MLB players. The AA guys I play against in my RTTS career make the great plays regularly as well.

While defense isn't my major issue with the game, I do agree that there are simply too many highlight-reel defensive plays by the CPU (I'm playing on All-Star with default fielding sliders). Each game I see at least one spectacular diving stop by the CPU. I'd be more OK with this if I could pull the same trick, but I've never been able to make those amazing diving stops with my infielders. These CPU stops are even more aggravating when the ball "warps" into the glove a split second before being caught. Thankfully that's the exception and not the rule though.

[CPT]

Re: I didn't know Ozzie Smith and Brooks Robinson still played...

Things like that are supposed to happen but defense is a year long thing. It comes up in every game. Not just every so often. The best example I can give is the fact that you could put Jeter in CF, Johnny Damon at C, Adam Dunn at 3B and you wouldn't see a dramatic difference.

a dramatic difference as compared to what? an elite guy? a guy taken off the street? what?

[mcgee055]

Re: I didn't know Ozzie Smith and Brooks Robinson still played...

Things like that are supposed to happen but defense is a year long thing. It comes up in every game. Not just every so often. The best example I can give is the fact that you could put Jeter in CF, Johnny Damon at C, Adam Dunn at 3B and you wouldn't see a dramatic difference.

I have to agree with this somewhat.

Put an infielder who is fast and decent at reactions in the OF and they gobble up everything.

I stongly disagree about putting adam dunn at 3B and you won't notice a difference. You have to have a 3B who is good at reactions or you are dead.

With the Johnny Damon thing, you can def. have him catch and it will be fine, but you will have a lot of passed balls.

One thing I have noticed in this game is that as long as you have a catcher who is good at "blocking", it doesn't matter what catcher you have, you will see little to no difference.

You will see little to no difference between an overall amazing defensive catcher (Yadier Molina) to an average defensive catcher who is good at blocking. (Soto)

[rickmitchell22]

Re: I didn't know Ozzie Smith and Brooks Robinson still played...

This has been a problem for several years now. It has to get fixed sooner or later.

[slickkill77]

Re: I didn't know Ozzie Smith and Brooks Robinson still played...

a dramatic difference as compared to what? an elite guy? a guy taken off the street? what?

What is your deal?
You won't see a difference in the normal defense. Why is this so difficult to comprehend?

[CPT]

Re: I didn't know Ozzie Smith and Brooks Robinson still played...

What is your deal?
You won't see a difference in the normal defense. Why is this so difficult to comprehend?

I didnt realize that asking for clarification was a "deal." So technically, that is why it is difficult to comprehend. My apologies.

Comprehend? No need to get your panties in a bunch.

[CPT]

Re: I didn't know Ozzie Smith and Brooks Robinson still played...

I stongly disagree about putting adam dunn at 3B and you won't notice a difference. You have to have a 3B who is good at reactions or you are dead.

agreed. a guy with poor reaction time at third and your LF is going to be a very busy guy.

[cardsleadtheway]

Re: I didn't know Ozzie Smith and Brooks Robinson still played...

I think that the presentation is the same for all fielders, i.e. every SS can do the Jeter running throw to first. What is different is how well that ball gets there. I have beaten out throws to first with moderately fast runners against weak throwing fielders with some consistency. I can definitely "feel" a difference in my players' range and ability depending on ratings. My SS is injured, so my backup guy is listed as a 3rd baseman and 2nd position is SS. He is averaging .5 errors a game, and that is when he can actually get to the ball. I think they did a pretty good job this year with defense. The problems I have are with the errors. They are definitely scripted based upon ratings or percentages or what not, as opposed to what the user does. There are times when I misplay a ball and it should be an error, but it isn't because the CPU didn't roll the error dice. Other times, I have heard the announcers say that the fielder bobbled it before the ball gets there and he indeed bobbles it half a second later. I guess there really is no other way to do it on a computer though.

[CPT]

Re: I didn't know Ozzie Smith and Brooks Robinson still played...

I think that the presentation is the same for all fielders, i.e. every SS can do the Jeter running throw to first. What is different is how well that ball gets there. I have beaten out throws to first with moderately fast runners against weak throwing fielders with some consistency. I can definitely "feel" a difference in my players' range and ability depending on ratings.

agreed 100%. I see the same thing. Right now I am in Spring ball and brought my top pick (A-ss) up to see what he can do. Definite difference in how the ball gets there (mostly off target or on the hop)...he can make the sliding stop, dives seem very delayed for him (from button press)...while not realistic (diving after the ball has past) it provides me reason enough to keep him in the minors - he is a handicap. Which is 100% on the right track... A "D" in fielding should be kept off the field (at least at short).