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  • Jgainsey
    I can't feel it
    • Mar 2007
    • 3362

    #151
    Re: MLB 11 The Show First Gameplay Video: Red Sox vs. Phillies

    Originally posted by chefdad
    I imagine with it now being tied to triangle, a pressure sensitive button, that it'll be much much easier to pull off on bunts. Huge huge huge change. Thank you...
    Oh ok.. For some reason, I had assumed all of the face buttons were pressure sensitive.

    It's not a huge issue by any means, but it will be nice if it's a little bit easier to pull back a bunt. Especially since it is something that is so easy to do in real life.
    Now, more than ever

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    • EnigmaNemesis
      Animal Liberation
      • Apr 2006
      • 12216

      #152
      Originally posted by Jgainsey
      Oh ok.. For some reason, I had assumed all of the face buttons were pressure sensitive.

      It's not a huge issue by any means, but it will be nice if it's a little bit easier to pull back a bunt. Especially since it is something that is so easy to do in real life.
      All the face buttons are pressure sensitive. And the L1 and R1 are pressure sensitive as well.


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      • OhDaesu19
        Inside The NFL
        • May 2009
        • 410

        #153
        Re: MLB 11 The Show First Gameplay Video: Red Sox vs. Phillies

        Originally posted by EnigmaNemesis
        All the face buttons are pressure sensitive. And the L1 and R1 are pressure sensitive as well.


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        I never knew that the face buttons were pressure sensitive. So if I press on the square button harder then I am swinging harder? If so does it increase the the chances of hitting a homer if I square up on the ball? EnigmaNemesis could you or someone else please elaborate on the effects of the pressure sensistivity of the face buttons? Maybe if I didn't try to press so hard I might cut down on my swinging strikeouts????? Thanks in advance.

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        • Blzer
          Resident film pundit
          • Mar 2004
          • 42527

          #154
          Re: MLB 11 The Show First Gameplay Video: Red Sox vs. Phillies

          Originally posted by OhDaesu
          I never knew that the face buttons were pressure sensitive. So if I press on the square button harder then I am swinging harder? If so does it increase the the chances of hitting a homer if I square up on the ball? EnigmaNemesis could you or someone else please elaborate on the effects of the pressure sensistivity of the face buttons? Maybe if I didn't try to press so hard I might cut down on my swinging strikeouts????? Thanks in advance.
          I don't really know if they're pressure-sensitive or if they're timing-sensitive, so to speak. It's pretty tough to not be "all or nothing" when it comes to pressing a button, but normally we press it harder if we want to hold onto it anyway. So when check-swinging, you have to tap the button as opposed to holding onto it (which is normally done by pressing it more lightly, no?).

          Controllers have been pressure-sensitive since the old Nintendo consoles: tap the B button to make Mario not jump as high, etc. I don't know what this has to do with bunting though.
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          • EnigmaNemesis
            Animal Liberation
            • Apr 2006
            • 12216

            #155
            Re: MLB 11 The Show First Gameplay Video: Red Sox vs. Phillies

            Originally posted by OhDaesu
            I never knew that the face buttons were pressure sensitive. So if I press on the square button harder then I am swinging harder? If so does it increase the the chances of hitting a homer if I square up on the ball? EnigmaNemesis could you or someone else please elaborate on the effects of the pressure sensistivity of the face buttons? Maybe if I didn't try to press so hard I might cut down on my swinging strikeouts????? Thanks in advance.
            They are digital in this game. I do not believe they have pressure (analog) sensitivity for this game.

            But other games, like racing games (Gran Turismo was one of them), used them for gas and brake sensitivity.
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            • Chef Matt
              True.
              • Apr 2008
              • 7832

              #156
              Re: MLB 11 The Show First Gameplay Video: Red Sox vs. Phillies

              The only button that I see as MAYBE, possibly, being used as pressure sensitive is the X button. (check swings) But really, I don't even know if that's a pressure sensitive function or just a timing thing (Quick press = check swing) I don't know though.

              I just feel that if bunting was completly tied to pressure sensitivity it would help alot in pulling off on bunt attempts.
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              • Baile
                Banned
                • Jan 2011
                • 112

                #157
                Re: MLB 11 The Show First Gameplay Video: Red Sox vs. Phillies

                Beautiful! Pitching animation issues are still unresolved though. No sense of any real power behind the pitch, and the release point of the ball appears to be inches away from the pitcher's hand. Both have been an issue since the PS2.

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                • bp4baseball
                  MVP
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 1315

                  #158
                  Re: MLB 11 The Show First Gameplay Video: Red Sox vs. Phillies

                  Originally posted by Blzer
                  I don't really know if they're pressure-sensitive or if they're timing-sensitive, so to speak. It's pretty tough to not be "all or nothing" when it comes to pressing a button, but normally we press it harder if we want to hold onto it anyway. So when check-swinging, you have to tap the button as opposed to holding onto it (which is normally done by pressing it more lightly, no?).

                  Controllers have been pressure-sensitive since the old Nintendo consoles: tap the B button to make Mario not jump as high, etc. I don't know what this has to do with bunting though.
                  Yeah, I'm pretty sure the 4 buttons are not pressure sensative, but work in the game as time sensative. As you mentioned, they are basically all or nothing.

                  The L1 and R1 are pressure sensative as can be seen in racing games that use them as gas and brake.
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                  • Chef Matt
                    True.
                    • Apr 2008
                    • 7832

                    #159
                    Re: MLB 11 The Show First Gameplay Video: Red Sox vs. Phillies

                    Originally posted by bp4baseball
                    Yeah, I'm pretty sure the 4 buttons are not pressure sensative, but work in the game as time sensative. As you mentioned, they are basically all or nothing.

                    The L1 and R1 are pressure sensative as can be seen in racing games that use them as gas and brake.
                    They are, have been since PS2 days.
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                    • bp4baseball
                      MVP
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 1315

                      #160
                      Re: MLB 11 The Show First Gameplay Video: Red Sox vs. Phillies

                      Originally posted by chefdad
                      They are, have been since PS2 days.
                      Thanks for the evidence....I was wrong
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                      • brrmikey
                        Pro
                        • Aug 2005
                        • 826

                        #161
                        Re: MLB 11 The Show First Gameplay Video: Red Sox vs. Phillies

                        game looks great. it looks very realistic and lifelike watching this clip. when i go back and play mlb 10 the show tonight on my LG/42inch/720p plasma it will look really clean and crisp...too clean and crisp. there is something about the subtle colors in this clip that i wish i could go home and reproduce on my tv somehow. is this just a change in how mlb 11 the show looks or is there something i can change as far as settings and calibration on my set? for some reason, i love the way mlb 10 the show looks during overcast games because the colors are more subtle and it looks very realistic imo. thx.

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                        • Chef Matt
                          True.
                          • Apr 2008
                          • 7832

                          #162
                          Re: MLB 11 The Show First Gameplay Video: Red Sox vs. Phillies

                          Originally posted by bp4baseball
                          Thanks for the evidence....I was wrong
                          One thing I didn't know though is even the D-pad is pressure sensitive. Wow.
                          Originally posted by Anthony Bourdain
                          The celebrity chef culture is a remarkable and admittedly annoying phenomenon. Of all the professions, after all, few people are less suited to be suddenly thrown into the public eye than chefs. We're used to doing what we do in private, behind closed doors.

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                          • SoxFan01605
                            All Star
                            • Jan 2008
                            • 7982

                            #163
                            Re: MLB 11 The Show First Gameplay Video: Red Sox vs. Phillies

                            Originally posted by chefdad
                            The only button that I see as MAYBE, possibly, being used as pressure sensitive is the X button. (check swings) But really, I don't even know if that's a pressure sensitive function or just a timing thing (Quick press = check swing) I don't know though.

                            I just feel that if bunting was completly tied to pressure sensitivity it would help alot in pulling off on bunt attempts.
                            I'm not so sure. I think the main reason is the animation system. It's kind of like in fielding were when you hit a trigger and you get sucked into a preset animation. That's how it feels with pulling off of a bunt. You are stuck in that bunting animation...feels like you're stuck in the mud.

                            Regardless, I just hope the focus on changing up/adding to the hitting system allowed for a fix in that area.

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                            • Blzer
                              Resident film pundit
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 42527

                              #164
                              Re: MLB 11 The Show First Gameplay Video: Red Sox vs. Phillies

                              Originally posted by brrmikey
                              game looks great. it looks very realistic and lifelike watching this clip. when i go back and play mlb 10 the show tonight on my LG/42inch/720p plasma it will look really clean and crisp...too clean and crisp. there is something about the subtle colors in this clip that i wish i could go home and reproduce on my tv somehow. is this just a change in how mlb 11 the show looks or is there something i can change as far as settings and calibration on my set? for some reason, i love the way mlb 10 the show looks during overcast games because the colors are more subtle and it looks very realistic imo. thx.
                              It's that "camcorder" look that makes it so awesome. I love watching games when they're recorded like this, they always look cooler for some reason.
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                              • Sco291
                                Pro
                                • Jan 2011
                                • 557

                                #165
                                Re: CES 11: Red Sox vs. Phillies Gameplay (Game Trailers)

                                Originally posted by NumberOneRB
                                Hopefully they improve the pitching motions this year. I've been waiting for them to do that for years now. They just don't look as fluid and intense as they should. This is one thing I still think the 2K series has over this franchise.
                                The only thing 2K has over the show is the commentary, but this isnt the place to discuss it because its against the TOS i think, but all ill say is that I think The Show now that they have added Karros this year will have a MUCH better commentary, and I never thought it was poor in the first place.

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