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  • Curyy94
    Banned
    • Dec 2010
    • 86

    #16
    Re: Previews of Top 10 at each position?

    I'll do top 5.

    SP
    Felix Hernandez
    Tim Lincecum
    Roy Halladay
    Chris Carpenter
    Josh Johnson

    CP
    Mariano Rivera
    Joe Nathan
    Andrew Bailey
    Carlos Marmol
    Fransisco Rodriguez

    1B
    Albert Pujols
    Migue Cabrera
    Adrian Gonzalez
    Joey Votto
    Prince Fielder

    2B
    Robinson Cano
    Dustin Pedrioa
    Chase Utley
    Brandon Phillips
    Ian Kinsler

    SS
    Hanley Ramirez
    Jose Reyes
    Troy Tulowitzky
    Derek Jeter
    Jimmy Rollins

    3B
    David Wright
    Evan Longoria
    Alex Rodriguez
    Ryan Zimmerman
    Adrian Beltre

    OF
    Ryan Braun
    Josh Hamilton
    Carlos Gonzalez
    Carl Crawford
    Carlos Beltran.

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    • Ronstr
      Pro
      • Nov 2008
      • 581

      #17
      Re: Previews of Top 10 at each position?

      Ubaldo and David Price should be in the top 10.
      Last edited by Ronstr; 01-19-2011, 02:57 AM.

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      • JoeCoolMan24
        MVP
        • Jul 2005
        • 1255

        #18
        Re: Previews of Top 10 at each position?

        Severe underrating of Alexei Ramirez. He's a top 3-4 SS in my opinion.

        For the 1st guy who did the top 10 list, Konerko I thought should have came in around 8-10, but not a big deal, however, lack of RP Matt Thornton is very, very surprising. I would have to think he is a top 3 non-closer in baseball.

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        • Crash Davis
          Banned
          • Jan 2008
          • 1321

          #19
          Re: Previews of Top 10 at each position?

          You guys are nuts, Roy Halladay is by far number 1, Timmy is more fun to watch but still... Hes not doc look at last season...

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          • BatsareBugs
            LVP
            • Feb 2003
            • 12553

            #20
            Re: Previews of Top 10 at each position?

            Originally posted by JoeCoolMan24
            Severe underrating of Alexei Ramirez. He's a top 3-4 SS in my opinion.

            For the 1st guy who did the top 10 list, Konerko I thought should have came in around 8-10, but not a big deal, however, lack of RP Matt Thornton is very, very surprising. I would have to think he is a top 3 non-closer in baseball.
            Konerko isn't a top 10 on my list for a few reasons. He's 35 and prior to last year, he was on the downswing of his career and it highly depends on which position SCEA assigns Adam Dunn in to. If Adam Dunn is a LF, then Konerko slips into the 10th spot while Luke Scott falls out of the LF top 10, with Adam Dunn (despite the lack of defense) moving in at ninth or tenth.

            I'm assuming Matt Thorton is going to be a closer this year for the White Sox since he was their best reliever. I saw his numbers and he would easily be 4th or 5th on my list (probably 4th, since his pitching clutch would be higher than Gregerson). However, the reason he isn't in the top 10 for closers is that the closers listed have more experience and all have been nails with the exception of Nathan, who I believe shouldn't be dropped out simply because he didn't pitch last season.

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            • BatsareBugs
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              • Feb 2003
              • 12553

              #21
              Re: Previews of Top 10 at each position?

              Originally posted by Crash Davis
              You guys are nuts, Roy Halladay is by far number 1, Timmy is more fun to watch but still... Hes not doc look at last season...
              Hard to predict in what order players will fall in the ranking when their overalls are filled all the way (as in years past). Maybe I'll edit that in.

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              • Curyy94
                Banned
                • Dec 2010
                • 86

                #22
                Re: Previews of Top 10 at each position?

                Originally posted by JoeCoolMan24
                Severe underrating of Alexei Ramirez. He's a top 3-4 SS in my opinion.

                For the 1st guy who did the top 10 list, Konerko I thought should have came in around 8-10, but not a big deal, however, lack of RP Matt Thornton is very, very surprising. I would have to think he is a top 3 non-closer in baseball.
                Alexei Ramirez can never be top 5 with Hanley Ramirez, Jose Reyes, Troy Tulowitzky, Derek Jeter, and Jimmy Rollins in this league. He's good but cmon...

                I agree with Thorton however.

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                • Scottdau
                  Banned
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 32580

                  #23
                  Re: Previews of Top 10 at each position?

                  Originally posted by Crash Davis
                  You guys are nuts, Roy Halladay is by far number 1, Timmy is more fun to watch but still... Hes not doc look at last season...
                  Who has the higher up side? Who has two Cy back to back and a World series ring. Doc is great but Tim was great too and out pitched Doc and Lee in playoffs, so forgive me for putting Tim number one.

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                  • Curyy94
                    Banned
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 86

                    #24
                    Re: Previews of Top 10 at each position?

                    Originally posted by Curyy94
                    I'll do top 5.

                    SP
                    Felix Hernandez
                    Tim Lincecum
                    Roy Halladay
                    Chris Carpenter
                    Josh Johnson

                    CP
                    Mariano Rivera
                    Joe Nathan
                    Andrew Bailey
                    Carlos Marmol
                    Fransisco Rodriguez

                    1B
                    Albert Pujols
                    Migue Cabrera
                    Adrian Gonzalez
                    Joey Votto
                    Prince Fielder

                    2B
                    Robinson Cano
                    Dustin Pedrioa
                    Chase Utley
                    Brandon Phillips
                    Ian Kinsler

                    SS
                    Hanley Ramirez
                    Jose Reyes
                    Troy Tulowitzky
                    Derek Jeter
                    Jimmy Rollins

                    3B
                    David Wright
                    Evan Longoria
                    Alex Rodriguez
                    Ryan Zimmerman
                    Adrian Beltre

                    OF
                    Ryan Braun
                    Josh Hamilton
                    Carlos Gonzalez
                    Carl Crawford
                    Carlos Beltran.
                    I forgot to do catchers so...

                    C
                    Joe Mauer
                    Brian McCann
                    Buster Posey
                    Victor Martinez
                    Yadier Molina.

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                    • BatsareBugs
                      LVP
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 12553

                      #25
                      Re: Previews of Top 10 at each position?

                      Originally posted by Curyy94
                      Alexei Ramirez can never be top 5 with Hanley Ramirez, Jose Reyes, Troy Tulowitzky, Derek Jeter, and Jimmy Rollins in this league. He's good but cmon...

                      I agree with Thorton however.
                      Actualy it is possible.

                      Age
                      A. Ramirez 29 (Ratings would either go up or stay the same)
                      D. Jeter 37 (Ratings would logically go down)
                      J. Rollins 32 (Ratings would go down slightly after last season)

                      Alexei should have slightly better power ratings than both
                      Power Numbers (HR)
                      A. Ramirez 21-15-18
                      D. Jeter 11-18-10
                      J. Rollins 11-21-8

                      Only Jeter would have a better contact rating.
                      Contact (AVG)
                      A. Ramirez .290-.277-.282
                      D. Jeter .300-.334-.270
                      J. Rollins .277-.250-.243

                      Defensively, Rollins is the best of the three, but Jeter is not that much better than Ramirez, despite the gift gold glove this past season.

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                      • BatsareBugs
                        LVP
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 12553

                        #26
                        Re: Previews of Top 10 at each position?

                        Originally posted by Scottdau
                        Who has the higher up side? Who has two Cy back to back and a World series ring. Doc is great but Tim was great too and out pitched Doc and Lee in playoffs, so forgive me for putting Tim number one.
                        Moot point. Playoffs mean nothing for the ratings, or B.J. Upton would've had Ruthian power ratings after 2008. Doc has better stamina, H/9 and durability, but Lincecum should have the higher K/9 and better pitch repertoire ratings. However, again when the overall ratings are full it is impossible to accurately list one over the other.

                        And on a side note, would you stop trying to troll every poster whenever it involves your Giants? It's getting old.

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                        • Scottdau
                          Banned
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 32580

                          #27
                          Re: Previews of Top 10 at each position?

                          Originally posted by Rag3vsW0rld
                          Moot point. Playoffs mean nothing for the ratings, or B.J. Upton would've had Ruthian power ratings after 2008. Doc has better stamina, H/9 and durability, but Lincecum should have the higher K/9 and better pitch repertoire ratings. However, again when the overall ratings are full it is impossible to accurately list one over the other.

                          And on a side note, would you stop trying to troll every poster whenever it involves your Giants? It's getting old.
                          Dude I am kidding. Even all those other times too. Doc is beast and I still feel Giants have the best starting pitching in baseball, but that is only my opinion. But keep thinking I troll you would not be the same if you didn't. Also how was that trolling he asked if we were nuts. So I shared why I believe Tim should be number one, even though I pretty much think it is moot too, because most likely both of their bars will be full.
                          Last edited by Scottdau; 01-19-2011, 02:20 AM.

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                          • BatsareBugs
                            LVP
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 12553

                            #28
                            Re: Previews of Top 10 at each position?

                            Originally posted by Scottdau
                            Dude I am kidding. Even all those other times too. Doc is beast and I still feel Giants have the best starting pitching in baseball, but that is only my opinion. But keep thinking I troll you would not be the same if you didn't.
                            Scott, you're a good person and I known that for the past four or so years just based on the MLB forum. My fear is that if the World Series is continuously brought up that it may derail this thread. I'm probably at fault for making this bigger than it should be, but you never know when a Philly fan may take exception to your post.

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                            • Scottdau
                              Banned
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 32580

                              #29
                              Re: Previews of Top 10 at each position?

                              Originally posted by Rag3vsW0rld
                              Scott, you're a good person and I known that for the past four or so years just based on the MLB forum. My fear is that if the World Series is continuously brought up that it may derail this thread. I'm probably at fault for making this bigger than it should be, but you never know when a Philly fan may take exception to your post.
                              Is is all good. I Think Matt L should be on your list. Cain is a question mark. But I do like your list. And you are right about the debate.

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                              • BatsareBugs
                                LVP
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 12553

                                #30
                                Re: Previews of Top 10 at each position?

                                Originally posted by Scottdau
                                Is is all good. I Think Matt L should be on your list. Cain is a question mark. But I do like your list. And you are right about the debate.
                                I think Matt Cain could break the top 10. His pitches have improved over the past four years and while most of his ratings should stay the same, I see his improvement in BB/9 probably pushing him into the top 10. As for Mat Latos, he should be a B overall, which isn't good enough for the even the top 25. He needs to improve his stamina, durability, and HR/9 as well as his other pitches aside from the fastball.

                                Out of the 110 players I picked, I hope that 90 of them make SCEA's top 10 list.

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