Previews of Top 10 at each position?

[Curyy94]

Re: Previews of Top 10 at each position?

I'll do top 5.

SP
Felix Hernandez
Tim Lincecum
Roy Halladay
Chris Carpenter
Josh Johnson

CP
Mariano Rivera
Joe Nathan
Andrew Bailey
Carlos Marmol
Fransisco Rodriguez

1B
Albert Pujols
Migue Cabrera
Adrian Gonzalez
Joey Votto
Prince Fielder

2B
Robinson Cano
Dustin Pedrioa
Chase Utley
Brandon Phillips
Ian Kinsler

SS
Hanley Ramirez
Jose Reyes
Troy Tulowitzky
Derek Jeter
Jimmy Rollins

3B
David Wright
Evan Longoria
Alex Rodriguez
Ryan Zimmerman
Adrian Beltre

OF
Ryan Braun
Josh Hamilton
Carlos Gonzalez
Carl Crawford
Carlos Beltran.

[Ronstr]

Re: Previews of Top 10 at each position?

Ubaldo and David Price should be in the top 10.

[JoeCoolMan24]

Re: Previews of Top 10 at each position?

Severe underrating of Alexei Ramirez. He's a top 3-4 SS in my opinion.

For the 1st guy who did the top 10 list, Konerko I thought should have came in around 8-10, but not a big deal, however, lack of RP Matt Thornton is very, very surprising. I would have to think he is a top 3 non-closer in baseball.

[Crash Davis]

Re: Previews of Top 10 at each position?

You guys are nuts, Roy Halladay is by far number 1, Timmy is more fun to watch but still... Hes not doc look at last season...

[BatsareBugs]

Re: Previews of Top 10 at each position?

Severe underrating of Alexei Ramirez. He's a top 3-4 SS in my opinion.

For the 1st guy who did the top 10 list, Konerko I thought should have came in around 8-10, but not a big deal, however, lack of RP Matt Thornton is very, very surprising. I would have to think he is a top 3 non-closer in baseball.

Konerko isn't a top 10 on my list for a few reasons. He's 35 and prior to last year, he was on the downswing of his career and it highly depends on which position SCEA assigns Adam Dunn in to. If Adam Dunn is a LF, then Konerko slips into the 10th spot while Luke Scott falls out of the LF top 10, with Adam Dunn (despite the lack of defense) moving in at ninth or tenth.

I'm assuming Matt Thorton is going to be a closer this year for the White Sox since he was their best reliever. I saw his numbers and he would easily be 4th or 5th on my list (probably 4th, since his pitching clutch would be higher than Gregerson). However, the reason he isn't in the top 10 for closers is that the closers listed have more experience and all have been nails with the exception of Nathan, who I believe shouldn't be dropped out simply because he didn't pitch last season.

[BatsareBugs]

Re: Previews of Top 10 at each position?

You guys are nuts, Roy Halladay is by far number 1, Timmy is more fun to watch but still... Hes not doc look at last season...

Hard to predict in what order players will fall in the ranking when their overalls are filled all the way (as in years past). Maybe I'll edit that in.

[Curyy94]

Re: Previews of Top 10 at each position?

Severe underrating of Alexei Ramirez. He's a top 3-4 SS in my opinion.

For the 1st guy who did the top 10 list, Konerko I thought should have came in around 8-10, but not a big deal, however, lack of RP Matt Thornton is very, very surprising. I would have to think he is a top 3 non-closer in baseball.

Alexei Ramirez can never be top 5 with Hanley Ramirez, Jose Reyes, Troy Tulowitzky, Derek Jeter, and Jimmy Rollins in this league. He's good but cmon...

I agree with Thorton however.

[Scottdau]

Re: Previews of Top 10 at each position?

You guys are nuts, Roy Halladay is by far number 1, Timmy is more fun to watch but still... Hes not doc look at last season...

Who has the higher up side? Who has two Cy back to back and a World series ring. Doc is great but Tim was great too and out pitched Doc and Lee in playoffs, so forgive me for putting Tim number one.

[Curyy94]

Re: Previews of Top 10 at each position?

I'll do top 5.

SP
Felix Hernandez
Tim Lincecum
Roy Halladay
Chris Carpenter
Josh Johnson

CP
Mariano Rivera
Joe Nathan
Andrew Bailey
Carlos Marmol
Fransisco Rodriguez

1B
Albert Pujols
Migue Cabrera
Adrian Gonzalez
Joey Votto
Prince Fielder

2B
Robinson Cano
Dustin Pedrioa
Chase Utley
Brandon Phillips
Ian Kinsler

SS
Hanley Ramirez
Jose Reyes
Troy Tulowitzky
Derek Jeter
Jimmy Rollins

3B
David Wright
Evan Longoria
Alex Rodriguez
Ryan Zimmerman
Adrian Beltre

OF
Ryan Braun
Josh Hamilton
Carlos Gonzalez
Carl Crawford
Carlos Beltran.

I forgot to do catchers so...

C
Joe Mauer
Brian McCann
Buster Posey
Victor Martinez
Yadier Molina.

[BatsareBugs]

Re: Previews of Top 10 at each position?

Alexei Ramirez can never be top 5 with Hanley Ramirez, Jose Reyes, Troy Tulowitzky, Derek Jeter, and Jimmy Rollins in this league. He's good but cmon...

I agree with Thorton however.

Actualy it is possible.

Age
A. Ramirez 29 (Ratings would either go up or stay the same)
D. Jeter 37 (Ratings would logically go down)
J. Rollins 32 (Ratings would go down slightly after last season)

Alexei should have slightly better power ratings than both
Power Numbers (HR)
A. Ramirez 21-15-18
D. Jeter 11-18-10
J. Rollins 11-21-8

Only Jeter would have a better contact rating.
Contact (AVG)
A. Ramirez .290-.277-.282
D. Jeter .300-.334-.270
J. Rollins .277-.250-.243

Defensively, Rollins is the best of the three, but Jeter is not that much better than Ramirez, despite the gift gold glove this past season.

[BatsareBugs]

Re: Previews of Top 10 at each position?

Who has the higher up side? Who has two Cy back to back and a World series ring. Doc is great but Tim was great too and out pitched Doc and Lee in playoffs, so forgive me for putting Tim number one.

Moot point. Playoffs mean nothing for the ratings, or B.J. Upton would've had Ruthian power ratings after 2008. Doc has better stamina, H/9 and durability, but Lincecum should have the higher K/9 and better pitch repertoire ratings. However, again when the overall ratings are full it is impossible to accurately list one over the other.

And on a side note, would you stop trying to troll every poster whenever it involves your Giants? It's getting old.

[Scottdau]

Re: Previews of Top 10 at each position?

Moot point. Playoffs mean nothing for the ratings, or B.J. Upton would've had Ruthian power ratings after 2008. Doc has better stamina, H/9 and durability, but Lincecum should have the higher K/9 and better pitch repertoire ratings. However, again when the overall ratings are full it is impossible to accurately list one over the other.

And on a side note, would you stop trying to troll every poster whenever it involves your Giants? It's getting old.

Dude I am kidding. Even all those other times too. Doc is beast and I still feel Giants have the best starting pitching in baseball, but that is only my opinion. But keep thinking I troll you would not be the same if you didn't. Also how was that trolling he asked if we were nuts. So I shared why I believe Tim should be number one, even though I pretty much think it is moot too, because most likely both of their bars will be full.

[BatsareBugs]

Re: Previews of Top 10 at each position?

Dude I am kidding. Even all those other times too. Doc is beast and I still feel Giants have the best starting pitching in baseball, but that is only my opinion. But keep thinking I troll you would not be the same if you didn't.

Scott, you're a good person and I known that for the past four or so years just based on the MLB forum. My fear is that if the World Series is continuously brought up that it may derail this thread. I'm probably at fault for making this bigger than it should be, but you never know when a Philly fan may take exception to your post.

[Scottdau]

Re: Previews of Top 10 at each position?

Scott, you're a good person and I known that for the past four or so years just based on the MLB forum. My fear is that if the World Series is continuously brought up that it may derail this thread. I'm probably at fault for making this bigger than it should be, but you never know when a Philly fan may take exception to your post.

Is is all good. I Think Matt L should be on your list. Cain is a question mark. But I do like your list. And you are right about the debate.

[BatsareBugs]

Re: Previews of Top 10 at each position?

Is is all good. I Think Matt L should be on your list. Cain is a question mark. But I do like your list. And you are right about the debate.

I think Matt Cain could break the top 10. His pitches have improved over the past four years and while most of his ratings should stay the same, I see his improvement in BB/9 probably pushing him into the top 10. As for Mat Latos, he should be a B overall, which isn't good enough for the even the top 25. He needs to improve his stamina, durability, and HR/9 as well as his other pitches aside from the fastball.

Out of the 110 players I picked, I hope that 90 of them make SCEA's top 10 list.