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  • BatsareBugs
    LVP
    • Feb 2003
    • 12553

    #316
    Re: MLB 11 The Show: Franchise Trade and Off Season Logic Has Been Massively Improved

    Originally posted by joepa2624
    I still can't believe how open and involved the dev team is with this community. We have questions, they give answers, we see results. It's incredible!

    My biggest issue with trade logic isn't in what the computer does/doesn't accept. It's more in who the computer decides to trade. What I mean is, teams that are fighting for a playoff push or lead their division should not be trading away elite/valuable players. Teams in the basement that have no shot should look to unload bloated contracts or players that probably wouldn't resign after their contract years.

    If that has been answered already I apologize for being redundant. But if this could be tweaked, it would put the game that much closer to perfection.

    Thanks guys!
    Before last year, the trading block worked correctly with those types of strategies. Teams making a playoff push would always put their best prospect(s) on the block and try to acquire a top MLB player to help them out. Teams that were out of it (rebuilding) put all their veterans on the block hoping to trade for younger players. Sometimes the two would work out, but last year because of the high amount of A-potential players in the base roster set, it threw everything off.

    There have always been some bad trades such as top prospect for best middle reliever, but most of the trades made sense.

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    • econoodle
      MVP
      • Sep 2009
      • 4884

      #317
      Re: MLB 11 The Show: Franchise Trade and Off Season Logic Has Been Massively Improved

      DO you think we will we get screenshots of the trade screen post deadline, before release?


      Interested to see what went down.

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      • brinks
        Rookie
        • Aug 2009
        • 151

        #318
        Re: MLB 11 The Show: Franchise Trade and Off Season Logic Has Been Massively Improved

        Assuming this hasn't been done and would be very difficult to do, but is there a way to have arbitration and free agent contract demands tied to on-field performance rather than ratings and potential?

        In 10, I went to arbitration with Yunel Escobar, coming off a 750 OPS year, and he got $17 million in arbitration. He was rated one of the highest players in the game, but it hadn't shown up on the field the previous season.

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        • cemprae48
          Rookie
          • Dec 2009
          • 97

          #319
          Re: MLB 11 The Show: Franchise Trade and Off Season Logic Has Been Massively Improved

          I have a question... When doing a fantasy draft... How many teams can you personally draft for?... There are four of us who play head to head games (09)... In that version only two teams can be controlled... BTW... We play at home (not online)... Thanks!

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          • bobeureally27
            Pro
            • Jun 2005
            • 760

            #320
            Re: MLB 11 The Show: Franchise Trade and Off Season Logic Has Been Massively Improved

            Originally posted by cemprae48
            I have a question... When doing a fantasy draft... How many teams can you personally draft for?... There are four of us who play head to head games (09)... In that version only two teams can be controlled... BTW... We play at home (not online)... Thanks!
            You could potentially draft for all 30 teams. The Show '10 added 30-Team Control, so you could control every team simultaneously if you wanted to.

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            • cemprae48
              Rookie
              • Dec 2009
              • 97

              #321
              Re: MLB 11 The Show: Franchise Trade and Off Season Logic Has Been Massively Improved

              Originally posted by bobeureally27
              You could potentially draft for all 30 teams. The Show '10 added 30-Team Control, so you could control every team simultaneously if you wanted to.
              That's what I was hoping for.... Thanks for saving me some search time!!!

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              • ripwalk
                Pro
                • May 2009
                • 531

                #322
                Re: MLB 11 The Show: Franchise Trade and Off Season Logic Has Been Massively Improved

                Originally posted by bxgoods
                I have to agree with you, I usually get the game every year. They've made a lot of improvements but Franchise hasn't changed much.
                I doubt the create a player changed and gave me more options for hairstyles and etc so creating a player will be the same as last 3 years.
                And the presentation is beyond old, I played the demo and was seeing the same cut scenes I've seen in the show for the past 3 years. So it makes me feel like I've seen it all before.
                My biggest gripe is there presentation needs to be redone from scratch. People like me who have bought the show every year have memorized all of the commentary by heart now.
                I'm just going to rent the game on Gamefly and see if it deserves a purchase. The demo had too much of a '10 feel, the new player models looked great but the animations and stadiums looked exactly the same as old.
                Again with this '10 feel' thing. If it didn't feel like 10 there would be something wrong. Maybe for MLB12 they can regut the whole award-winning game for you and change every single aspect so it's new?

                Hey, the game might not be nearly as good if they try to change everything, but at least it will be "fresh"

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                • ryan36
                  7 dirty words...
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 10139

                  #323
                  Re: MLB 11 The Show: Franchise Trade and Off Season Logic Has Been Massively Improved

                  Originally posted by ripwalk
                  Again with this '10 feel' thing. If it didn't feel like 10 there would be something wrong. Maybe for MLB12 they can regut the whole award-winning game for you and change every single aspect so it's new?

                  Hey, the game might not be nearly as good if they try to change everything, but at least it will be "fresh"
                  I wouldn't dismiss the staleness of the title so fast...it's an issue that over time will affect sales...I think if they just completely re-did commentary, that'd go a long way

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                  • HustlinOwl
                    All Star
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 9713

                    #324
                    Re: MLB 11 The Show: Franchise Trade and Off Season Logic Has Been Massively Improved

                    Originally posted by bxgoods
                    stadiums looked exactly the same as old.
                    Did AT&T have some major renovation that only you are aware of over the off-season????

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                    • PsychoBulk
                      Hoping for change...
                      • May 2006
                      • 4191

                      #325
                      Re: MLB 11 The Show: Franchise Trade and Off Season Logic Has Been Massively Improved

                      Originally posted by Russell_SCEA
                      This is a very very late addition/change to MLB 11 The Show. Kolbe and Jeff Ulman, one of our senior AI programmers, went into the cave this past weekend and re-wrote a massive amount of code for trades and off-season logic for franchise mode.

                      You know the more i think about this the more that this late change probably isnt getting the kudos it deserves.

                      This new and improved logic should make a massive difference to the realism of trades and off-season stuff, an area we all knew needed a kick in the backside.

                      I think the franchise junkies who really get into the specifics and nuances of the off-season will really appreciate, that whilst unheralded, this could potentially be the biggest addition in many peoples eyes.

                      A big thanks to Kolbe and Jeff for holing themselves up for that weekend to get this done.

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                      • IAHawks1903
                        Rookie
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 108

                        #326
                        Re: MLB 11 The Show: Franchise Trade and Off Season Logic Has Been Massively Improved

                        Are any of you guys planning on doing 30-team control for your '11 franchise while still just focusing on your team? I really liked the ability to be the "czar" of my MLB universe last year and fix the little things that I did not like. Even with the improved logic, I wouldn't mind the ability to go in and reject a trade here or there that I feel isn't appropriate. Hopefully, the logic is to the point where no intervention is needed, but w/ 30 team control, I would just turn everything to CPU for everybody but my team and leave myself the OPTION to step in if need be. I don't really see a downside outside of the draft taking longer, but I can handle that once/year.

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                        • Knight165
                          *ll St*r
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 24964

                          #327
                          Re: MLB 11 The Show: Franchise Trade and Off Season Logic Has Been Massively Improved

                          Originally posted by IAHawks1903
                          Are any of you guys planning on doing 30-team control for your '11 franchise while still just focusing on your team? I really liked the ability to be the "czar" of my MLB universe last year and fix the little things that I did not like. Even with the improved logic, I wouldn't mind the ability to go in and reject a trade here or there that I feel isn't appropriate. Hopefully, the logic is to the point where no intervention is needed, but w/ 30 team control, I would just turn everything to CPU for everybody but my team and leave myself the OPTION to step in if need be. I don't really see a downside outside of the draft taking longer, but I can handle that once/year.
                          I am.
                          I like 30 team control too much to step away from it.

                          M.K.
                          Knight165
                          All gave some. Some gave all. 343

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                          • adam914
                            Rookie
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 234

                            #328
                            Re: MLB 11 The Show: Franchise Trade and Off Season Logic Has Been Massively Improved

                            Originally posted by IAHawks1903
                            Are any of you guys planning on doing 30-team control for your '11 franchise while still just focusing on your team? I really liked the ability to be the "czar" of my MLB universe last year and fix the little things that I did not like. Even with the improved logic, I wouldn't mind the ability to go in and reject a trade here or there that I feel isn't appropriate. Hopefully, the logic is to the point where no intervention is needed, but w/ 30 team control, I would just turn everything to CPU for everybody but my team and leave myself the OPTION to step in if need be. I don't really see a downside outside of the draft taking longer, but I can handle that once/year.
                            Yeah, I agree. I don't really see a downside to using it. You have the option of jumping in if you feel the need, or can just stay out of it. I'd hate to not set it up and then halfway through the season see something that I can't live without changing. Plus I think it actually helped me keep up with things going on around the league better that I might have otherwise totally missed.

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                            • econoodle
                              MVP
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 4884

                              #329
                              Re: MLB 11 The Show: Franchise Trade and Off Season Logic Has Been Massively Improved

                              *bangs silverware on the table*
                              WE WANT PICS! WE WANT PICS!

                              ok 'I' want pics.
                              lol
                              Last edited by econoodle; 03-01-2011, 02:13 AM.

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                              • sparty404
                                Rookie
                                • Jul 2004
                                • 11

                                #330
                                Re: MLB 11 The Show: Franchise Trade and Off Season Logic Has Been Massively Improved

                                Originally posted by Jdurg
                                That's probably because the demo build was from some time in December of last year where a great deal of the new stuff we have been seeing and hearing about was not yet implemented into the code. Basically, the demo is ONLY intended to showcase the analog controls.
                                I heard the info about the timing of the demo build, but why would they release a demo build that de-motivates a significant piece of your fan base? I bought at PS3 two years ago just for The Show, but what I saw in the demo felt exactly the same as previous years with the exception of the analog controls...now I'm depressed and in limbo about whether or not I'm buying the game this year or not.

                                In theory, if the demo does a poor job of representing the overall polished product, I question the value in the demo release at all.

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