MLB 11 The Show: Franchise Trade and Off Season Logic Has Been Massively Improved

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  • Heroesandvillains
    MVP
    • May 2009
    • 5974

    #346
    Re: MLB 11 Trade Logic

    Originally posted by theaub
    I assume it was the same as real life but I just closed the game (Hawk game's on in a bit hah) so I'm not 100% sure.

    Also virtually all of the trades happened within a week of the deadline, and more on the 31st than any other day. The only "name" guy who got traded before July was Slowey.
    This is great news!

    As far as the contract length, the Show does not duplicate real to life years.

    It's also encouraging to see a powerhouse team, way out of it, be one of the only teams unloading superstars.

    Thanks. Enjoy the game...Uh....both games! LOL

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    • theaub
      Stop! Homer Time!
      • Feb 2004
      • 9643

      #347
      Re: MLB 11 Trade Logic

      Hmm I thought they did replicate years, but not the salary (because they're in the default roster screen this year).
      Blue Jays, Blackhawks, Auburn

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      • Heroesandvillains
        MVP
        • May 2009
        • 5974

        #348
        Re: MLB 11 Trade Logic

        Originally posted by theaub
        Hmm I thought they did replicate years, but not the salary (because they're in the default roster screen this year).
        Not unless it's been changed...

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        • jtott
          Pro
          • Feb 2009
          • 630

          #349
          Re: MLB 11 Trade Logic

          Originally posted by nonnel
          I think the original thread said exactly what was improved. Trade logic. That's the improvement. Not trying to be sarcastic, but what more information are you looking for? It means that the logic in which the cpu trades with is more realistic, hence improved. Improved trade logic. There you go.
          Has any one played Nba 2k11? I posted something on this a while back.. and within a couple of weeks SCEA announced that some improvements were being made to the trade system. Anyway in Nba 2k11, when you are wanting to trade a player, Let's say.. Matt Holliday.. click on Holliday,and press "search" and it then finds all the offers from other teams for your player....... OR let's say I want to aquire Ryan Howard... I click on Howard.. click search , and the Phillies tell me who they want from my team for him.
          I just think that it's a very cool system.... I think the trading in the Show is somewhat blah.... You try and make a trade and you either get a full bar or you you don't and in last years case .. a full bar didn't mean that the trade was going to go through...... It's a system that could use some changing that's all . The Show is the BEST baseball game.. Period! The trading in the game is the one thing that I don't think has ever been changed though.

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          • econoodle
            MVP
            • Sep 2009
            • 4884

            #350
            Re: MLB 11 Trade Logic

            Originally posted by theaub
            I think the logic looks improved; you still have the problems with players who IRL wouldn't be traded, but at the end of the day it would make sense for these guys to be moved.

            For example, I just simmed to July 31st. Sabathia and Hughes got hurt and the Yanks are in 4th in the East...so they shipped Jeter to the Cubs for Castro and a good prospect. Makes sense to me since the Cubs are fighting for 1st in the Central (if anything the Cubs got ripped)

            Other "name" guys who got traded were Rios (2 A prospects), Burnett (for Mike Minor), V-Dub (doesn't make $26 mil in this game hah), Teixiera (um...guess the Yanks are really going firesale mode haha...got Freeman + 2 A prospects though), Slowey and Tejada

            You could argue with the Yankees firesale, but I think its pretty solid. Yanks system is absolutely loaded now too.
            wait, so AJ, Tex and Jeter all got traded at the deadline?
            wtf.
            that is far from cool.
            Firesale? no i'd say thats bad trade logic lol.

            also, if Sabathia and Hughes got hurt, why in the world would u trade your only other 'reliable' starter?
            Whos the number one starter for them now, Nova?
            scratching my head here.

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            • joepa2624
              Rookie
              • Oct 2006
              • 151

              #351
              Re: MLB 11 Trade Logic

              My hatred for the Yankees makes me love this ^^^ Lol. If that is how the trade logic is consistently then I'm really going to enjoy this years franchise. I hated having to control all 30 teams to prevent unrealistic trades.

              Expiring contracts on non playoff competitive teams should be dealt to teams that are making playoff pushes so it's nice to see something like this happen. But the few people that think those deals are unrealistic might have a point b/c the Yankees NEVER unload. This year could be a first...

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              • Knight165
                *ll St*r
                • Feb 2003
                • 24964

                #352
                Re: MLB 11 Trade Logic

                Originally posted by joepa2624
                My hatred for the Yankees makes me love this ^^^ Lol. If that is how the trade logic is consistently then I'm really going to enjoy this years franchise. I hated having to control all 30 teams to prevent unrealistic trades.

                Expiring contracts on non playoff competitive teams should be dealt to teams that are making playoff pushes so it's nice to see something like this happen. But the few people that think those deals are unrealistic might have a point b/c the Yankees NEVER unload. This year could be a first...
                I would agree...except I guess you guys aren't old enough to remember the NON-Steingrabber Yankees of the mid 60's-mid 70's and even the early 80's somewhat. Certainly not the same style of GM mindset as today's Yankees.
                You must keep in mind...that the dev team isn't just making a one, two or even just a 10 year franchise mode....it's an ongoing and meant to be FLUID(think cyclical perhaps)....thing. To lock it into the Yankees of today would be just as unrealistic as the trades mentioned and would have me scratching my head if the Yanks...in year 2025 after 8 consecutive losing years and aging do-nothings kept pouring $$ into the same kind of losing system without trying to reload.
                It's a catch-22 really....

                I'm pumped at the info about trade deadline activity!!!

                M.K.
                Knight165
                All gave some. Some gave all. 343

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                • bigdaddykraven
                  Rookie
                  • Jun 2007
                  • 300

                  #353
                  Re: MLB 11 Trade Logic

                  Originally posted by econoodle
                  wait, so AJ, Tex and Jeter all got traded at the deadline?
                  wtf.
                  that is far from cool.
                  Firesale? no i'd say thats bad trade logic lol.

                  also, if Sabathia and Hughes got hurt, why in the world would u trade your only other 'reliable' starter?
                  Whos the number one starter for them now, Nova?
                  scratching my head here.
                  The logic sounds fine. The game doesn't seem to recognize them as The Yankees but a team in 4th place with a lot of big salaries and aging (32 and older) players. In general for most teams, those moves would be very logical if they knew they weren't competing this year but wanted to compete again soon.

                  The fact that Ryan Howard, Prince Fielder, Pujols and at least 2-3 other top names in the game weren't traded for A prospects says improvement for me.

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                  • econoodle
                    MVP
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 4884

                    #354
                    Re: MLB 11 Trade Logic

                    Originally posted by joepa2624
                    My hatred for the Yankees makes me love this ^^^ Lol. If that is how the trade logic is consistently then I'm really going to enjoy this years franchise. I hated having to control all 30 teams to prevent unrealistic trades.

                    Expiring contracts on non playoff competitive teams should be dealt to teams that are making playoff pushes so it's nice to see something like this happen. But the few people that think those deals are unrealistic might have a point b/c the Yankees NEVER unload. This year could be a first...

                    ii hear ya. lol
                    but the Yankees are the #2 ranked team in the game, so for them to damn it all and start unloading 3 star players by the ASB because they had a bad first half, mind you thanks to injuries to the 1 and 2 starters, is a bit suspect. It should be cause for some alarm.

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                    • joepa2624
                      Rookie
                      • Oct 2006
                      • 151

                      #355
                      Re: MLB 11 Trade Logic

                      Originally posted by bigdaddykraven
                      The logic sounds fine. The game doesn't seem to recognize them as The Yankees but a team in 4th place with a lot of big salaries and aging (32 and older) players. In general for most teams, those moves would be very logical if they knew they weren't competing this year but wanted to compete again soon.

                      The fact that Ryan Howard, Prince Fielder, Pujols and at least 2-3 other top names in the game weren't traded for A prospects says improvement for me.
                      Agreed, except with the way spring training has begun I wouldn't be surprised to see Fielder and possibly Pujols traded for multiple A prospects. There is about a 20% chance the Brewers will resign Fielder and they could use a couple big league ready players to fill holes as well a few pitching prospects for the future. Sadly, I could see the Yankees overpaying for him....Or maybe a darkhorse team like the Angels or Indians? It'd also be pretty fitting if he was dealt to the Tigers

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                      • econoodle
                        MVP
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 4884

                        #356
                        Re: MLB 11 Trade Logic

                        Originally posted by bigdaddykraven
                        The logic sounds fine. The game doesn't seem to recognize them as The Yankees but a team in 4th place with a lot of big salaries and aging (32 and older) players. In general for most teams, those moves would be very logical if they knew they weren't competing this year but wanted to compete again soon.

                        The fact that Ryan Howard, Prince Fielder, Pujols and at least 2-3 other top names in the game weren't traded for A prospects says improvement for me.

                        But the fact remains, CC and Hughes are hurt, the 1 and 2 starters. They trade the #3 starter.
                        What staff are they left with?
                        What GM would do that to the team?

                        The Yankees 4 and 5 starters are surely very low rated in the game. So they are now the aces during the injuries to the top dogs?

                        Who plays first and short?

                        I know many want to justify the trades there, but I have to respectfully disagree here.

                        In any event, the trade logic will be a hot button topic around here for sure. lol

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                        • bigdaddykraven
                          Rookie
                          • Jun 2007
                          • 300

                          #357
                          Re: MLB 11 Trade Logic

                          Originally posted by econoodle
                          But the fact remains, CC and Hughes are hurt, the 1 and 2 starters. They trade the #3 starter.
                          What staff are they left with?
                          What GM would do that to the team?

                          The Yankees 4 and 5 starters are surely very low rated in the game. So they are now the aces during the injuries to the top dogs?

                          Who plays first and short?

                          I know many want to justify the trades there, but I have to respectfully disagree here.

                          In any event, the trade logic will be a hot button topic around here for sure. lol
                          I agree that the logic will be flawed however I rest on the note that again it seems by this one sim that its better than last year's. I'm also interested in wanting to know if after a few years the top players are stuck in free agency because average SS are asking for $15M a year!

                          Yeah last year's game, while fun, had so many holes in it I have to say it was probably the least fun franchise I'd played of all the MLB games. So every little improvement can help.

                          Another question this brings up is do teams FINALLY look for help from the Free Agency when injuries happen during the season?

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                          • econoodle
                            MVP
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 4884

                            #358
                            Re: MLB 11 Trade Logic

                            good post Jdurg,

                            I like your ideas, it reminds me of last gen Madden with the 'Player Roles', it really set the franchise mod apart.

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                            • mikey rockz
                              Rookie
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 83

                              #359
                              Re: MLB 11 Trade Logic

                              I don't agree with the logic of the Yankees trades because for 1, mark has 5 years left in his contract, aj and jeter have 3 years left on theirs. Check the al east screenshots to see that. And 2 starting pitchers get hurt so they trade the 3rd starter? Not smart. I don't like that because 2 stars get injured you throw away the next couple of seasons and start your franchise over.

                              On another note, I also feel another season should be simulated and track the trades again. Can't base everything on just 1 simmed season
                              Last edited by mikey rockz; 03-05-2011, 12:58 AM.

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                              • FreAk47
                                Straight cash homie
                                • Jan 2011
                                • 247

                                #360
                                Re: MLB 11 Trade Logic

                                I don't really have a problem with those moves. That logic would fit well for 90% of the teams in the league...it's just that its something the current Yankees management would likely never. Adding team specific front office mentalities seems like a complicated thing, so I am ok with a general logic that seems to fit most teams.

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