Talking 'Timing hitting'

[B Easy]

Re: Talking 'Timing hitting'

Guys, guys, guys, I'm reading this trying to eat lunch and I'm seeing all sorts of confusion.

Let's clear this up. In previous versions of The Show, TIMING hitting was the default setting for hitting if I remember correctly. That's how I've been playing these baseball games for years. Just pressing either "X" to swing normal, "O" for a contact swing or "Square" for a power swing. The player's ratings dictate the outcome if the ball is well timed. The PCI automatically is placed when timed correctly in the TIMING hitting option.

This year, they added the analog as we all know. To me? Why fix what isn't broken? I'd rather let the player's ratings that SCEA gave them, dictate the action on the field. My stick skills shouldn't have to determine whether or not Josh Hamilton has a monster year in my franchise.

I'm too lazy, slow, unconcerned with moving my thumbs in 2 different directions all the while trying to make sure I stride properly right when the ball is coming out of the pitchers hand. It's a video game. I want to relax and have fun. I love baseball, I want it to mirror real life as much as possible.

But back to the hitting. The ZONE hitting as I've seen, is basically the same as TIMING, except you are adjusting the left joystick as to where the ball is in the strike zone.

The analog hitting as I've seen it, is basically a combo of both TIMING and ZONE with the proper striding as the ball is being released, moving the left joy stick to the proper location of the ball as well as releasing the right joy stick to swing.

Hope that clears the air on this hitting, and if I made a mistake which I might have let me know.

[Skyboxer]

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They reworked the PCI for 11. Last year you could make contact with the ball not being within the PCI. This year it is mandatory for the ball to be within the PCI to make contact. Your timing, player ratings, pitch type/location are all playing a role in PCI placement. As you increase in difficulty level your timing window shrinks, so on the higher levels you have a smaller window to make quality contact. Obviously you can adjust it accordingly with the timing window slider to suit your needs.

It may have been wanted to be that way but I can assure you it isn't.
I've had plenty of balls fouled off etc.. and it was NOT making contact with the PCI

[Skyboxer]

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Its not Nem, i always check swing info after a pitch and i often make contact on balls nowhere near being in the PCI.

Zone hitting however is another matter.

It is like that in Zone as well. Balls being fouled and not contacting the PCI.
I was hoping it was a slider/setting issue but don't think it is.

[Skyboxer]

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Guys, guys, guys, I'm reading this trying to eat lunch and I'm seeing all sorts of confusion.

Let's clear this up. In previous versions of The Show, TIMING hitting was the default setting for hitting if I remember correctly. That's how I've been playing these baseball games for years. Just pressing either "X" to swing normal, "O" for a contact swing or "Square" for a power swing. The player's ratings dictate the outcome if the ball is well timed. The PCI automatically is placed when timed correctly in the TIMING hitting option.

This year, they added the analog as we all know. To me? Why fix what isn't broken? I'd rather let the player's ratings that SCEA gave them, dictate the action on the field. My stick skills shouldn't have to determine whether or not Josh Hamilton has a monster year in my franchise.

I'm too lazy, slow, unconcerned with moving my thumbs in 2 different directions all the while trying to make sure I stride properly right when the ball is coming out of the pitchers hand. It's a video game. I want to relax and have fun. I love baseball, I want it to mirror real life as much as possible.

But back to the hitting. The ZONE hitting as I've seen, is basically the same as TIMING, except you are adjusting the left joystick as to where the ball is in the strike zone.

The analog hitting as I've seen it, is basically a combo of both TIMING and ZONE with the proper striding as the ball is being released, moving the left joy stick to the proper location of the ball as well as releasing the right joy stick to swing.

Hope that clears the air on this hitting, and if I made a mistake which I might have let me know.

Analog: Can only control the PCI Left and Right. Up and Down is based off player ratings.
Also ZONE hitting and Timing are not basically the same when, as you put it yourself, ZONE adds a whole added part of LS aiming.

[Skyboxer]

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It only seems to be my better hitters than can make contact outside the PCI, so that indicates contact/plate vision ratings are perhaps in play?

Which would be disappointing. ZONE hitting should be exactly that. PCI + Ball = contact.

The ratings should just make the PCI size bigger or smaller.

[B Easy]

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Analog: Can only control the PCI Left and Right. Up and Down is based off player ratings.
Also ZONE hitting and Timing are not basically the same when, as you put it yourself, ZONE adds a whole added part of LS aiming.

Definitely man that's what I was trying to get at. I took a break in between typing that and lost my train of thought haha but yeah you're right.

[HedoRick]

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Can I get a definitive answer?

What setting makes this year's hitting exactly like last years? Which one is it?

[jmik58]

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I'm enjoying the analog swinging, but asking me to move my thumb towards the inside or outside corner to hit those pitches is just ridiculous.

I'll keep practicing, but basically I can't keep it fair if it's on the corner.

[bkrich83]

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BK, you will love timing hitting, there is a little of a learning curve, but it so rewarding. And my hit variety was solid, I love timing hitting.

That's what I wanted to hear.

[Scott]

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I agree with Marino on that. I was using analog, but just couldn't get it down. Was swinging at way too many bad pitches because I was focused on getting my strides down.

[N51_rob]

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I agree with Marino on that. I was using analog, but just couldn't get it down. Was swinging at way too many bad pitches because I was focused on getting my strides down.

Ditto, it's very hard to focus on the pitchers leg, and then try to pick up what the ball is doing. Timing has made the game even more fun.

[DJ]

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I'm pretty close to going timing only mainly due to the fact I'm a big "Let the players ratings matter" as much as possible. So timing only gets me closer to that with the joy of still interacting with the game.

I still love MOM though

Yeah, I'm about to move to timing only for hitting as well; at least when it comes to using full MLB teams. I will likely still use Analog controls for RTTS but A) I'm not very good at Analog hitting and B) I like the ratings to dictate hit success, not how good I am with the sticks.

[LuGer33]

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I'm struggling to hit period. I keep getting "perfect" timing but only "okay" contact. I'm using the Timing Controls myself, and it's getting pretty frustrating as I continue to pop up meatball curves and fastballs despite getting "perfect" timing when I check it out last pitch.

[HedoRick]

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I'm struggling to hit period. I keep getting "perfect" timing but only "okay" contact. I'm using the Timing Controls myself, and it's getting pretty frustrating as I continue to pop up meatball curves and fastballs despite getting "perfect" timing when I check it out last pitch.

Exactly this.

This is happening entirely too much which leads me to believe they have messed up the hitting coding from last year. A lot of folks here will say "you're not as good as you thought you were, lower it to rookie or pro" or whatever. And then I'll hit 8 home runs in the game and destroy the computer.

And they'll say toy with sliders, but just like back in my 2ksports days there was always something off when I went away from the defaults, like majorly glitchy.

[HedoRick]

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Oh my god I've figured it out boys. I know what *SOME* of our problems are! I Think.

http://forums.theshownation.com/showpost.php?p=39749&postcount=55

So in the off-season of the show, I have gotten a big screen 50" TV. I think back and when I played on my friends big screen we couldn't hit to save our lives. I think that this has something to do with it. On my old TV that was a 25 inch it was perfect for hitting and gaming.

According to the above post, the frame rates are faster on a 50" TV something about switching from 1080 to 720; my old tv was 720! and when I play on my big screen now I cannot hit no matter what I try. I'm thinking this is the problem!