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  • Rawdeal28
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    • Oct 2007
    • 7407

    #16
    Re: doesn't get dark fast enough in night games?

    Originally posted by EnigmaNemesis
    Personally I do not see what is so strange about them choosing the peak of summer which is what baseball is about, "boys of summer", for exhibition to show of the maximum effort off the games progression and shadow trajectory.

    It works as intended, and well in franchise with the dynamics.
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    • bwiggy33
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      • Jul 2006
      • 2003

      #17
      Re: doesn't get dark fast enough in night games?

      The other fact were missing is that the topic starter is a Yankee's fan. The Yankees and Red Sox are notorious for having longer game lengths so it gets completely dark an inning or two before most of the other MLB teams since they take about 3 hours 15 minutes to finish, while the other teams are at about 2:45-3 hours. I know for Twins games in mid summer it's completely dark about the top or bottom of the 7th which is 2 hours or so into the game.

      Here is proof just to show a little bit more about it. It was written just before the 2010 season so it may have changed a little bit after last year, but I doubt by much.


      I think the day/night progression is done extremely well. Way better than last year that's for sure, and last years didn't even bother me all that much.
      Last edited by bwiggy33; 03-29-2011, 01:36 AM.
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      • Keirik
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        • Mar 2003
        • 3770

        #18
        Re: doesn't get dark fast enough in night games?


        hard to see but its 9:02 there

        playoffs but game didnt start yet so its gotta be around 8pm

        Again, I'm not saying this is the end all, be all of this game, but it seems weird if they chose to use the longest part of the baseball season to use as the default exhibition game. I know when i think of a 9 inning baseball game i dont think of daylight until almost 10pm at night. I personally think of like 9pm at the latest as being when its at least extremely close to dark. [Insert obligatory i love this game and everything it offers yet there is room for even minimal improvement]
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        • dickey1331
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          • Sep 2009
          • 14285

          #19
          Re: doesn't get dark fast enough in night games?

          Maybe we can all pretend to be in Alaska where its always light in the summer time

          As for on topic I havent seen this as a problem in the game but I havent really paid attention to it either.
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          • Simp
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            • Dec 2003
            • 428

            #20
            Re: doesn't get dark fast enough in night games?

            No offense to the OP but most teams home games aren't in the sixth inning at 9:34 PM. Most teams home games are in the 9th inning (or even finished) by that time.

            The progression works great as it is IMO. If anything, maybe they can introduce some code that accounts specifically for the longer game times at Yankee Stadium and Fenway Park.

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            • Keirik
              MVP
              • Mar 2003
              • 3770

              #21
              Re: doesn't get dark fast enough in night games?

              Originally posted by Simp
              No offense to the OP but most teams home games aren't in the sixth inning at 9:34 PM. Most teams home games are in the 9th inning (or even finished) by that time.

              The progression works great as it is IMO. If anything, maybe they can introduce some code that accounts specifically for the longer game times at Yankee Stadium and Fenway Park.
              The average time of a MLB game is 2 hours and 51 minutes and 3 hours 30 minutes for playoff games. You're basically saying most baseball games are over in 2.5 hours? Nope.

              As per Elias Sports Bureau
              The average time to complete a nine-inning game in the 1970s -- not including on-field delays -- was two hours and 30 minutes. That increased to an average of 2:57 in the 10-year span from 2000-09. Through Thursday, this year's league average was 2:51, according to the Elias Sports Bureau.

              In the playoffs, game times have been longer. Last season, nine-inning regular-season games lasted an average of 2:52, while in the postseason, that number jumped to 3:30, according to STATS LLC.
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              • DickDalewood
                All Star
                • Aug 2010
                • 6263

                #22
                Re: doesn't get dark fast enough in night games?

                It's on a per pitch basis, and dependent on the time of year. So mid summer, your 2:51 game isn't going to be dark until around the 7th/8th inning. Now, if you get some longer innings with longer at-bats, it could be sooner. In the playoffs, due to time of year, it will also, again, get darker sooner, as it does at the beginning of the season as well. One thing the real life playoffs also have that this game doesn't, is more commercials, which you're not figuring into it your stat of 3:30 games

                Regardless, the adjustments they've made this year are near spot-on, and if you play through a season, you'll see this reflected more accurately. Last year night games got dark WAY too fast.
                Last edited by DickDalewood; 03-29-2011, 02:38 PM.

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                • ckarlic
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                  • May 2003
                  • 4999

                  #23
                  Re: doesn't get dark fast enough in night games?

                  I think this year it is done just right. No complaints for me here.
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                  • Simp
                    Rookie
                    • Dec 2003
                    • 428

                    #24
                    Re: doesn't get dark fast enough in night games?

                    Originally posted by Keirik
                    The average time of a MLB game is 2 hours and 51 minutes and 3 hours 30 minutes for playoff games. You're basically saying most baseball games are over in 2.5 hours? Nope.

                    As per Elias Sports Bureau
                    I didn't say most games are finished in 2:30. I said some games are finished in 2:30, which is true. My point stands.

                    Using your average of 2:51, if the night game starts at 7:05, the average finish time would be 9:56. That puts the end of the sixth inning about 9:00. At the height of summer, at 9:00... there is daylight left in the sky.

                    Median time would be better to use than average anyways, since the average time is inflated by outliers in New York and Boston

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                    • boogeyman12
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                      • Mar 2008
                      • 283

                      #25
                      Re: doesn't get dark fast enough in night games?

                      I like day games more. Better too look at while playing.

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                      • Keirik
                        MVP
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 3770

                        #26
                        Re: doesn't get dark fast enough in night games?

                        Originally posted by Simp
                        I didn't say most games are finished in 2:30. I said some games are finished in 2:30, which is true. My point stands.

                        Using your average of 2:51, if the night game starts at 7:05, the average finish time would be 9:56. That puts the end of the sixth inning about 9:00. At the height of summer, at 9:00... there is daylight left in the sky.

                        Median time would be better to use than average anyways, since the average time is inflated by outliers in New York and Boston
                        ummmmm...
                        Originally posted by Simp
                        No offense to the OP but most teams home games aren't in the sixth inning at 9:34 PM. Most teams home games are in the 9th inning (or even finished) by that time.
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                        if a game starts at 7pm, then you are saying most games are in the 9th or even over by 930, or two and a half hours, which is just incorrect. It's not the end of the world, just not correct.
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                        • Simp
                          Rookie
                          • Dec 2003
                          • 428

                          #27
                          Re: doesn't get dark fast enough in night games?

                          Originally posted by Keirik
                          ummmmm...

                          if a game starts at 7pm, then you are saying most games are in the 9th or even over by 930, or two and a half hours, which is just incorrect. It's not the end of the world, just not correct.
                          I said most teams home games are in the ninth inning by then, which I still think is likely true. Sorry if my post was not clear. I did not mean to say that most games are done in 2:30. I do accept the average you presented but my point still stands.

                          I think SCEA has it right.

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                          • Keirik
                            MVP
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 3770

                            #28
                            Re: doesn't get dark fast enough in night games?

                            not really sure if you are aware of this but you do realize the 9th inning in the last inning of a game right? lol


                            Anyhoo, in the franchise it's not an issue which obvioulsy is more important.
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                            • thaSLAB
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                              • Feb 2008
                              • 4495

                              #29
                              Oh the things we debate in this game...LOL


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                              • Neil33
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                                • Apr 2004
                                • 92

                                #30
                                Re: doesn't get dark fast enough in night games?

                                I think they finally got it right.

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