Slow/incorrect animations...

[Woodweaver]

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I don't get why so many vets and the developers are acting like these things don't happen in the game. No one is bashing the game. They are just trying to help. I see these slow animations all the time in RTTS.

Some examples.
Bunt the ball down the third base line. The catch will casually pick it up, spin, plant his foot and then toss it to first.
Ball hit to the short stop. The short stop will go to his backhand, double pump and then throw it. The other short stop animation I hate is the one where he goes to his backhand, makes a scooping motion in the air while spinning around and then throw it.

I don't think anyone is saying they do not happen. Just saying that there are things to be done to avoid some of them. Some of them are a result of making the wrong decisions while fielding.

[mmorg]

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Now, no offense to you , but with a single search in this forum, I turned up 22 post regarding this matter from me alone over the past 3 years. A single search at Google returned a bunch of video tutorials over the past 3 years too.

What did you search? I tried a couple of search strings but my google-fu is weak today.

[khronikos]

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I for one hope these devs do not think their animation system is perfect because it is OBVIOUSLY not. Real life players throw the ball in hundreds of different ways. I'm not saying it's possible to get this into the game but I see the same damn animations over and over again and yes the infield at SS and 2B do need some new animations for 12. As well work needs to be done on the catcher and outfielders. We just plain need more animations so it doesn't seem so much like a chore watching the game after a couple months of playing. I am sure they add more each year but animation is something YOU ALWAYS improve. You cannot believe for a second that your game is somehow perfect to real life? Some of the responses here are a little bit strange and defensive. That being said it is a great game and they make huge strides every year.

Also, we shouldn't have to point these things out. We aren't getting paid for this. Please tell me someone at the office knows these things are a problem and have been for some time. I would think by 12 we would see a total revamp in the tepid franchise presentation as well. Things are pretty obvious to anybody willing to look at the flaws. Of course the game is great but the animation and presentation are two issues that need to be constantly improved and really certain aspects of these systems haven't been to any huge degree. 11 did some nice things with the camera and of course there are a lot of replays that are fun but I am more talking about real life baseball here. Somebody has to be watching game after game to realize what is wrong if they are getting paid. I realize there are time constraints and I realize this is the best baseball game out there. BUT THERE ARE FUNDAMENTAL problems. I am pretty tired of all the defenders here. Batting and Pitching animations have been mediocre for years and totally wrong for a lot of players. Commentary has been horrible for years and still is. As well the playoffs and World Series are just plain boring, etc. etc. etc.

[Bahnzo]

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I don't think anyone is saying they do not happen. Just saying that there are things to be done to avoid some of them. Some of them are a result of making the wrong decisions while fielding.

And thanks for taking the time to point out when that is and what we can do to change it.

[Bobhead]

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Is there a way for me to upload videos onto here if I don't have a Flash Drive?

[thaSLAB]

Is there a way for me to upload videos onto here if I don't have a Flash Drive?

As long as you have a YouTube or Facebook account, you can upload directly from your PS3 using the Video Uploader app under the Video section of the XMB.

Edit:

Here is a 'How To' video...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=537VRxF5aik


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[nomo17k]

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Is there a way for me to upload videos onto here if I don't have a Flash Drive?

After saving a movie to a file, use Video Editor & Uploader under the Video menu in XMB. Need a YouTube or Facebook accounts to upload to I believe.

[Dexter1028]

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The animation that bothers me is when i throw home and the catcher insists on putting the tag on the runner who is already walking back to the dugout which allows the runner to go from first to second. But then again maybe I am doing something wrong. Does this bother anyone else.

[HustlinOwl]

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The animation that bothers me is when i throw home and the catcher insists on putting the tag on the runner who is already walking back to the dugout which allows the runner to go from first to second. But then again maybe I am doing something wrong. Does this bother anyone else.

yeah if already heading to dugout hit your cutoff man L1

[Dexter1028]

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yeah if already heading to dugout hit your cutoff man L1

Well I was being slightly sarcastic there Hustlin.......I know some of it is my fault by not hitting the cutoff man, but I have had my catcher try to put a tag on a guy who is already past the plate. It gets annoying but lets be honest here gentlemen this is a game and these guys do one heck of a job with it...........but it never will be the same as real life.

[jd369]

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ok I finally got some time to put some videos up of things that should not be happening in this game and need to be fixed pronto. I have 6 videos here, the last 2 really piss me off cause they just cost me a game in franchise and they also make me sympathetic to all the folks that rant about comeback code.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26lsiKBvM6Q

pretty self explanatory, slow lob that should have been a good hard throw causes a DP not to be turned. shouldnt be happening

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrpdXLaNZoA

here we have a guy going to field a ground ball, but why does he keep his glove tucked down by his foot and let the ball roll by him? where is the glove extension to make this an easy play?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OM_46-gOQI

with furcal running the pitcher has no precious seconds at all for the glove pump. should have been a bare hand pick and up and immediate throw to first.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ju6jDlFs5sA

this one is a little hard to see, but it was an error on a shallow fly ball to left. my questions is WHY is a double cut needed when the ball was still in shallow left field? it didnt roll to the wall and when I then threw the ball to 2nd it went over the first basemans head and then rolled to first base. this should have been the 2nd baseman and then the first baseman would have still been standing at first to grab the wild throw. instead there was no one there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGrUt_cgJOo

ok this one really pisses me off. this is a shot to 2nd base, but WHY IN THE WORLD do I have control of the right fielder here?!! instead of having control of the second baseman LIKE I SHOULD it goes right past him all the way to the wall letting a run score instead of getting me out of the inning.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANB2CaFHTA4

this one basically cost me the game. again, WHY IN THE WORLD is he charging the ball and instead of grabbing it and firing home home does he come to a complete stop and then lob a throw in?!!! that animation just needs to be removed.

so as you can see there are plenty instances of insane and unrealistic game logic or whatever you call it that needs to be overhauled. I definitely will not purchase this game next year if things like this that affect gameplay and make it unrealistic stays in the game.

[jkra0512]

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OM_46-gOQI

with furcal running the pitcher has no precious seconds at all for the glove pump. should have been a bare hand pick and up and immediate throw to first.

This is the one that bothers me most! Especially, when going against NL teams in late innings.

JD, good job upload videos and showing exactly what you're talking about.

[VonD]

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All in one inning:

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<iframe width="560" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/HipOB_dk7S0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

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[thaSLAB]

ok I finally got some time to put some videos up of things that should not be happening in this game and need to be fixed pronto. I have 6 videos here, the last 2 really piss me off cause they just cost me a game in franchise and they also make me sympathetic to all the folks that rant about comeback code.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26lsiKBvM6Q

pretty self explanatory, slow lob that should have been a good hard throw causes a DP not to be turned. shouldnt be happening

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrpdXLaNZoA

here we have a guy going to field a ground ball, but why does he keep his glove tucked down by his foot and let the ball roll by him? where is the glove extension to make this an easy play?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OM_46-gOQI

with furcal running the pitcher has no precious seconds at all for the glove pump. should have been a bare hand pick and up and immediate throw to first.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ju6jDlFs5sA

this one is a little hard to see, but it was an error on a shallow fly ball to left. my questions is WHY is a double cut needed when the ball was still in shallow right field? it didnt roll to the wall and when I then threw the ball to 2nd it went over the first basemans head and then rolled to first base. this should have been the 2nd baseman and then the first baseman would have still been standing at first to grab the wild throw. instead there was no one there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGrUt_cgJOo

ok this one really pisses me off. this is a shot to 2nd base, but WHY IN THE WORLD do I have control of the left fielder here?!! instead of having control of the second baseman LIKE I SHOULD it goes right past him all the way to the wall letting a run score instead of getting me out of the inning.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANB2CaFHTA4

this one basically cost me the game. again, WHY IN THE WORLD is he charging the ball and instead of grabbing it and firing home home does he come to a complete stop and then lob a throw in?!!! that animation just needs to be removed.

so as you can see there are plenty instances of insane and unrealistic game logic or whatever you call it that needs to be overhauled. I definitely will not purchase this game next year if things like this that affect gameplay and make it unrealistic stays in the game.

Not trying to make excuses, but the throwing issues seem to be user related... I don't know what throwing method you are using, but I assume all those throws were preloaded? The lobs happen (on the DP and LF) because the button/stick isn't being held long enough to make a hard throw. On the bunt to the pitcher, it was definitely preloaded, but a quick throw (field then throw) would have made him barehand and throw in one motion (it's an off-balance throw animation.)

The fielding ones are a little different, although they are very hard to see from your angles... On the shot over second base, did you mean to say you had control over the RF? On the double-cut play, I couldn't see where the ball landed or if it rolled to the wall, but why was it thrown to 1st?

On the groundball... Ok, I'll give you that, but I don't think I see that happen too much to be unrealistic. It's one of those in between plays that kind of depends on fielding attributes.


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[jd369]

Re: Slow/incorrect animations...

Not trying to make excuses, but the throwing issues seem to be user related... I don't know what throwing method you are using, but I assume all those throws were preloaded? The lobs happen (on the DP and LF) because the button/stick isn't being held long enough to make a hard throw. On the bunt to the pitcher, it was definitely preloaded, but a quick throw (field then throw) would have made him barehand and throw in one motion (it's an off-balance throw animation.)

The fielding ones are a little different, although they are very hard to see from your angles... On the shot over second base, did you mean to say you had control over the RF? On the double-cut play, I couldn't see where the ball landed or if it rolled to the wall, but why was it thrown to 1st?

On the groundball... Ok, I'll give you that, but I don't think I see that happen too much to be unrealistic. It's one of those in between plays that kind of depends on fielding attributes.


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I will address each comment with a number so I wont get responses jumbled into the wrong replies.

1. I use buttons, the throws were pre-loaded. I always press the button pretty hard so that shouldnt have been an issue. the lob just shouldnt happen (and hasnt happened in previous years games). on the bunt, we should be able to pre-load a throw, the glove pump shouldnt be in there. also I have tried the field and throw with no pre-load and still get the glove pump sometimes. on that throw from LF I was charging and it was a great hop (tailor made for a charging throw to home) there is absolutely no reason the LF should have charged and then taken 4 or so steps to come to a complete stop, especially charging straight at the ball, he didnt have to take an angle or anything.

2. yeah I meang RF got that completely backwards. should have been control to the 2nd baseman 100% every time. on the double cut play it wasnt thrown to first. the ball hit off my LF and rolled just a couple of feet away. I picked it up and threw to 2nd but the ball went over the first basemans head (who was covering 2nd due to the double cut for a ball in shallow left). there was no one at first base to back up the bad throw because of the double cut (first baseman should have been there because there shouldnt have been a double cut and the 2nd baseman should have been at 2nd, thus allowing the firstbaseman to be where he belonged and grab the bad throw).

3. it happens way more than it should have has affected the outcome of quite a few games for me both against friends and the CPU.

I am sure you dont mean it the way it sounded, but these things arent "user error" especially for people that have been playing this game for years, we know how to make throws and what not. but when the logic/animations is flawed and things dont work that falls on the developers to make this game more true to life. when we are seeing things that would never happen in a game its annoying and irritating, even more so when you are in franchise and its costing you games you should win (or at least have a shot to win). like I said in my post above, when these things happen it makes me sympathize with the folks that rant about comeback code. Im sure Ill have some more videos soon. Im gonna keep on this until we get a dev, or multiple devs in here to acknowledge there is a problem and that they are on it for next year.