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  • Blzer
    Resident film pundit
    • Mar 2004
    • 42509

    #16
    Re: continue franchise for mlb 12

    Originally posted by MGM_BLUE
    I dont get it?

    I get that you want to start MLB12 with your MLB11 Franchise, but why do people sim through a season? Why not play the season you are already on?
    What are the benefits of simming through one or two seasons?
    I think you're drawn back a quoted post or two. I was the one who said that, through perseverance and playing about 40 - 50 of the games in any given season, I could find myself a few years into my franchise by the time the next game comes out. He simply suggested that I could be in 2014 when MLB 12: The Show comes out or whatever, and I could continue that franchise.

    So maybe there would be bugs and glitches, but maybe there wouldn't. It all depends on how the developers make the game differentiate itself from the previous game, especially with that mode itself. I feel like if they literally untouched franchise mode from one year to the next, it could be possible. I'm not saying that they should do that, but I don't see where the downfalls would come into play. However, if the improvements were only a matter of new interfaces, improved front office AI logic, and added stat columns, only the stats from previous years might have an actual issue if they weren't ever recorded from MLB 11 (like yearly MVP's, for example).

    It certainly would be a welcoming addition to any sports game, though. It definitely would allow me to okay the decision to buy the next year's game without any regret. It's not so much the regret of buying that next game, but I have to shed a small tear and wave bye bye to my old pals in my old franchise, knowing I'll have to play the inferior/outdated game to start it up again, while having another franchise by its side in the superior/updated game.
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    • MGM_BLUE
      Banned
      • Jul 2011
      • 178

      #17
      Re: continue franchise for mlb 12

      OK , I guess maybe I missed the point somewhere.
      While I do agree that seeing your MLB11 Franchise, RTTS, or CAP be transferable to MLB12, I dont understand why people SIM through 2014, then complain about the 2014 glitch. (Im not saying you guys are... at least I dont think you are). Or why someone would want to start MLB12 in 2014 because they SIMmed through 2012 & 2014. I guess if its your game, you play how YOU want.

      Whatever, as I said, maybe I just missed the point! :o

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      • TNKNGM
        All Star
        • Mar 2005
        • 6784

        #18
        Re: continue franchise for mlb 12

        You guys are missing what I'm getting at - I think

        There is no game that's ever going to let you start a season 2 years into the future using a roster set n franchise from 1 year in the past.

        It's just never going to happen

        Like wise - you will never buy a game 3 years from now that let's you continue your franchise that you couldn't finish but are on July 10th of 2011 in your season.

        Like I said - it's never going to happen....ever

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        • Blzer
          Resident film pundit
          • Mar 2004
          • 42509

          #19
          Re: continue franchise for mlb 12

          Originally posted by MGM_BLUE
          OK , I guess maybe I missed the point somewhere.
          While I do agree that seeing your MLB11 Franchise, RTTS, or CAP be transferable to MLB12, I dont understand why people SIM through 2014, then complain about the 2014 glitch. (Im not saying you guys are... at least I dont think you are). Or why someone would want to start MLB12 in 2014 because they SIMmed through 2012 & 2014. I guess if its your game, you play how YOU want.

          Whatever, as I said, maybe I just missed the point! :o
          Yeah, I don't know what that point is. I was basically saying that I would like to have the same franchise I had in my previous games. Even if I only played two months in 2011 in my franchise, I would like to transfer that over to the next installment of The Show to I can continue it. Otherwise, it's kind of a waste.

          This is another reason why I wouldn't mind seeing sports video games release every other year with continual updated rosters.
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          • Blzer
            Resident film pundit
            • Mar 2004
            • 42509

            #20
            Re: continue franchise for mlb 12

            Originally posted by TNKNGM
            You guys are missing what I'm getting at - I think

            There is no game that's ever going to let you start a season 2 years into the future using a roster set n franchise from 1 year in the past.

            It's just never going to happen
            Well, it loads your roster obviously. It generates players from a database that is accessed on your save file. I don't see that as being impossible. It might run into issues when it comes to playing in newer/older stadiums, but it seems like the development team will keep the Marlins' old stadium archived in the game when their new stadium comes around.

            Like wise - you will never buy a game 3 years from now that let's you continue your franchise that you couldn't finish but are on July 10th of 2011 in your season.

            Like I said - it's never going to happen....ever
            This added point sounded a bit redundant. I wasn't quite sure what you were saying here.

            I know you're saying: "It isn't going to happen," but is there an actual reason? For instance, do you think they'll ever "let happen" loading slider sets from older iterations of this game? If the sliders were the exact same, would there be an issue with this? Maybe the sliders will have a different effect when you play, maybe they'll have a slightly different name ("Throw Power" instead of "Throw Speed" or something), but in the end, it can still load the same things. Heck, even if there are new sliders added like "AI swing tendency" or something, it would just default in the middle while everything else has been loaded up. I don't think this is impossible, but it would definitely take some creative developing to implement.
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            • TNKNGM
              All Star
              • Mar 2005
              • 6784

              #21
              Re: continue franchise for mlb 12

              I just don't see it ever happening......maybe I'm wrong.

              It's an interesting idea........but really think about what you are saying - you want to be starting MLB The Show 12 in the year 2014 of your franchise for example.

              Or vice versa......starting MLB The Show 15 in the year 2011 of your franchise midway through August for example.

              Again, maybe I'm wrong - but I just can't see a game or development team focusing too much time on a feature like this when they already have their hands full from year to year.

              I would love to hear Russell chime in on whether or not this can be done or has even been considered

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              • Bobhead
                Pro
                • Mar 2011
                • 4926

                #22
                Re: continue franchise for mlb 12

                I have yet to see anyone post one legitimate reason as to why it wouldn't be possible. The only things that really change are things that aren't loaded from save files anyway. Game Mechanics, different animations, etc... that's all on the game disc itself. How would the game even care? The only way this becomes an issue is for Marlins franchise players, but their could just be a pop-up message: "Your team now has a new stadium, bla bla bla" and then you simply lose any modifications you've made to your stadium/park/seating/etc...

                There are probably roster issues, but just make it so that the feature is only available at the start of a season (ie: you'd have to play through to the offseason in your current franchise, before "transforming" it into 2012).

                I honestly don't see why it can't be done, it just takes a little creativity imo.

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                • nomo17k
                  Permanently Banned
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 5735

                  #23
                  Re: continue franchise for mlb 12

                  As long as the ways they organize the data (e.g., player attributes and stats) in save files don't change much, I think it's entirely possible to do this... If they change data structures in some ways or another, like adding a new stats like zone rating in MLB 12, they obviously won't be able to fill those in for previous seasons played in earlier versions of the series... So I'd think it won't be entirely graceful but should be possible to some extent......

                  But ensuring backward compatibility often hinders the devs to implement new things in better, more elegant ways. We certainly would like to continue franchises on which we invest enormous amount of time, but at the expense of other improvements? If the devs are thinking of completely overhauling the way they deal with stats (e.g., so we have better year-by-year stats for players), I'd rather see that happen than seeing the current system being kept for compatibility purposes. Just an example...
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                  • mjbird123
                    Pro
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 809

                    #24
                    Re: continue franchise for mlb 12

                    That would probably be the best thing they can do

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