MLB 12 The Show Hands-On Preview and Interview with Ramone Russell (PS3, PS Vita)

[nemesis04]

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I hope everyone does not overhype themselves to the level of disappointment. I am sure a lot of time energy and effort have been put into the presentation and commentary but to think you can replace all the past commentary (which is extremely deep) with the something entirely new would be impossible. I am sure what we will see is the beginning groundwork towards everyones expectations on what they would like to see in the presentation/ commentary.

[tnixen]

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well when Russie mentioned MLB.tv i had deja vu as I was watching some games on it this year i said to my girlfriend, why doesnt SCEA watch there games and get tips on how overlays/swipes should look.

I guess they did just that.

But yes I hope the overlay part gets totally redone.
From hangover to makeover.

And get rid of the player photos in the batter walk ups.
that NEVER happens on any teams broadcast.

In any event I hope its a visually massive change.


Hopefully this means all the old cut scenes have gone bye-bye.
Tho SCEA never gets rid of stuff so they might be in there as a option.

Glad Russ and the boys listened to our psychotic ramblings about the tv style presentation aspects of the best baseball game ever.

All new cut scenes would be ok by me

Along with more foul ball camera angles too.

And yes I to hope the player photos in the batter walk ups are gone for good.

[jd369]

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Can you find this...because I find it hard to believe. I do believe and we have seen that there will be different options of cleats (but I have a feeling they are all fictional designs)

It was in that thread from the OS article "10 things the show needs" or something or other. #6 was licensed gear and Woodweaver made a post that 6 or so out of the 10 were already in the game and he listed number 6 in his list.

[tnixen]

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I hope everyone does not overhype themselves to the level of disappointment. I am sure a lot of time energy and effort have been put into the presentation and commentary but to think you can replace all the past commentary (which is extremely deep) with the something entirely new would be impossible. I am sure what we will see is the beginning groundwork towards everyones expectations on what they would like to see in the presentation/ commentary.

Thats what I am thinking to what we see in MLB 12 The Show as far as presentation/ commentary is just phaze 1. But I hope Phaze 1 is still a huge improvment to what we have had since the PS2 days. I know that the Sony guys will do the best they can given they only have around 9 months to do it. And I am sure it will be a nice improvment over what the presentation has been like all these years. I am not expecting to be perfect and be 100% the way I was hoping for but atleast I know Sony is trying to improve the presentation.

[bp4baseball]

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It was in that thread from the OS article "10 things the show needs" or something or other. #6 was licensed gear and Woodweaver made a post that 6 or so out of the 10 were already in the game and he listed number 6 in his list.

I found the post, but I think he was referring to another poster, rather than the article. Somebody posted this

The Show 11 is one of the best baseball games of all time. But I'm a baseball nerd, so I have suggestions anyway.

1) There should be analogue controls still in online play. It's one of the best things about the game, but not having it takes away from online mode.

2) Fifa 11 had a "personality trait" engine for players which could be neat for The Show.

For example: BJ Upton - Inconsisentent
Brian Wilson - Flamboyant
Tim Hudson - never stops battling
Jeter - clutch

3) Diving catches in the outfield shouldn't be impossible, but they are. They should be hard, but they're seriously almost impossible unless the player is a premium defender. But in reality, Melky Cabrera or Eric Hinske lay out successfully a few times a year.

4) Outfielders get stuck in animations when they're interacting with the wall. This effects gameplay sometimes.

5) There are never player collisions. There should be.

6) If a line drive hits a pitcher in the face, he should be injured. Inversely, pitchers shouldn't be hit with line drives so often.

7) Sometimes outfielders should slam into the wall when they make an amazing catch. We should be left wondering "is he ok? will he stay down? did he hold on to the ball?".

8) It doesn't seem like injuries actually result from plays on The Show 11. For example, if a runner goes in hard to second to break up a double play, sometimes a middle infielder gets hurt. Instead, a window pops up saying a player is injured but nothing noticeable happened.

9) In Franchise mode, it is irritating to have to constantly toggle training assignments. There's no way to know how often you should change them. Moreover, it seems that changing them never leads to player improvement, but not changing them leads to a decline in ability.

10) I LOVE the Show. But the lighting engine in the 2K series looks b@d@ss. Maybe take notes?

Somebody else responded to this post with :

You can use analog online.

You just have to make sure you set it in your online settings.

And Woodweaver responded to them saying:

Yep, and 3, 4, 5, 6, & 10 are already in the game too.

[jd369]

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I found the post, but I think he was referring to another poster, rather than the article. Somebody posted this




Somebody else responded to this post with :


And Woodweaver responded to them saying:

Bummer, I thought they finally put it in. Every other sports game has real gear, its time the show did to.

[Ollienyy]

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The True Broadcast Presentation sounds awesome! Can't wait to see it!

Commentary (Which we obviously won't know till we hear it in action) sounds like they just added a few new topics to talk about rather then a complete overhaul. From what was mentioned there, I doubt they have made it 2K levels (but I hope to be proven wrong)

[mjsonoma01]

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I understand where you're coming from but calling the new analog control scheme a gimmick is just crazy. It gave us such a needed breeze of fresh air playing the game!

Perhaps 'gimmick' is too strong a word. And it was some fresh air, although I pesonally never used it, but I still couldnt play a franchise or rtts without running into massive contract and trade issues 3-4 seasons into the game.

That is my point. The controls were nice, but not needed. The be the catcher was nice, but not needed. This playstation move is nice, but not needed. In order for the game to be worth playing beyond 3-4 seasons into the game the trade logic and monetary system NEEDS to be fixed.

And it probably has. We will see.

[jemens]

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Perhaps 'gimmick' is too strong a word. And it was some fresh air, although I pesonally never used it, but I still couldnt play a franchise or rtts without running into massive contract and trade issues 3-4 seasons into the game.

That is my point. The controls were nice, but not needed. The be the catcher was nice, but not needed. This playstation move is nice, but not needed. In order for the game to be worth playing beyond 3-4 seasons into the game the trade logic and monetary system NEEDS to be fixed.

And it probably has. We will see.

I agree it's not needed for good gameplay. I'm not impressed in general with move features in other games in general. Let see how they've implemented it.

My only concern is IF they spent alot of dev cycles in Move and Vita port. I'm high Sony instances pressured them to fully support those marketing features.

But still impressed with what we've heard so far. If I can have my roof open/closed on some stadiums I'll be happy !!!

[XBox_Roughneck]

First time since NFL 2k5 that I will purchase a sports title the same year it's released on console.

Can't wait.

New presentation
New ball physics
Improved game commentary

All three are important, but the commentary has me excited. I'm hoping this will be a start to what will become a regular improvement of the in the box speak.

[Blzer]

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Shame there's no online play between Vita and PS3, that would have kicked so much butt! I want to see what that one online mode will be, though. Somebody suggested 9 v. 9 with RttS players, but I just don't see it happening.

[Knight165]

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Thats what I am thinking to what we see in MLB 12 The Show as far as presentation/ commentary is just phaze 1. But I hope Phaze 1 is still a huge improvment to what we have had since the PS2 days. I know that the Sony guys will do the best they can given they only have around 9 months to do it. And I am sure it will be a nice improvment over what the presentation has been like all these years. I am not expecting to be perfect and be 100% the way I was hoping for but atleast I know Sony is trying to improve the presentation.

This is much more likely than a total replacement.
That would be impossible in one cycle.
Also....I think the licensed gear was perhaps the Rawlings gloves and perhaps the New Era caps. I don't think he meant ALL licensed gear.

M.K.
Knight165

[jd369]

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This is much more likely than a total replacement.
That would be impossible in one cycle.
Also....I think the licensed gear was perhaps the Rawlings gloves and perhaps the New Era caps. I don't think he meant ALL licensed gear.

M.K.
Knight165

That may be what he meant. New Era logos arent on the actual hats that can be seen, but they do have the New Era ads in the game I think. The rawlings stuff wouldnt count as "licensed" since it was just the rawlings models of gloves and bats with the show logo on them. Models of other brands like nike, mizuno, adidias etc and stuff with the show logos or something would be a good start, but really since all other sports games have brand name stuff in the game its time the baseball games do as well. Football, Basketball and Soccer have had brand name stuff for 5+ years now if I can recall correctly (even the old NCAA baseball game had real cleats and bats). Baseball has to get on the ball so to speak lol.

[econoodle]

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This is much more likely than a total replacement.
That would be impossible in one cycle.
Also....I think the licensed gear was perhaps the Rawlings gloves and perhaps the New Era caps. I don't think he meant ALL licensed gear.

M.K.
Knight165

MLB 2k did debut the presentation/commentary package thy have now in quick fashion.
It was a new dev team and all, but they did pull it off with the 9 month window in effect. So its possible to make big moves in the first iteration of something.

I would prefer Campbell to be vamoosed.
Hes dragging the team down.
Tho if he's still in this year, I'll give him a shot with the improved commentary before I hit the mute code.

That being said, I think SCEA did the most they could possibly do and honestly even if it didnt hit 2k's level of upgrade, its still going to be light years better then the stale presentation the game has now.
That instantly makes it a win.
For me anyways.


Next up for me? Videos of those new ball physics in play/motion.

[Pared]

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MLB 2k

You're in the wrong forum. If you're interested in discussing that game, you should hit the back button and find the right forum.