Is This the New Miami Marlins Ballpark in MLB 12 The Show?

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  • kt-od
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    • Feb 2008
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    #16
    Re: MLB 12 The Show Video - New Miami Marlins Ballpark

    Originally posted by Knight165
    Actually, I thought he said no on both...but his post only mentions not closing.
    I don't know for sure.


    M.K.
    Knight165
    Thanks for the reply. You are right. It's no on both. I found the post and it said they had to build the stadiums for Vita and couldn't rebuild the stadiums with the roof closed.
    Last edited by kt-od; 12-16-2011, 11:49 AM.
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    • Blzer
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      • Mar 2004
      • 42520

      #17
      Re: MLB 12 The Show Video - New Miami Marlins Ballpark

      Originally posted by kt-od
      Thanks for the reply. You are right. It's no on both. I found the post and it said they had to build the stadiums for Vita and couldn't rebuild the stadiums with the roof closed.
      Rebuild here is the key.
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      • Steve_OS
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        • Jul 2002
        • 33880

        #18
        Updated OP. Since I'm now confused LOL.
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        • nomo17k
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          • Feb 2011
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          #19
          Re: Is This the New Miami Marlins Ballpark in MLB 12 The Show?

          I'm sorry for being uninitiated, but in real life do they ever close/open the roof *during* a game due to a sudden weather change? (Of course they wouldn't do that intentionally, but I'm just wondering if it is done rather regularly...)
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          • Blzer
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            • Mar 2004
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            #20
            Re: Is This the New Miami Marlins Ballpark in MLB 12 The Show?

            Originally posted by nomo17k
            I'm sorry for being uninitiated, but in real life do they ever close/open the roof *during* a game due to a sudden weather change? (Of course they wouldn't do that intentionally, but I'm just wondering if it is done rather regularly...)
            Normally, if the forecast predicts severe weather or extreme heat, they'll leave the roof closed anyway. It's not a bad default in those places where this stuff happens often, but if they have to do it, they might go between innings and make it happen. Otherwise, it's just not that common.

            That's not to say stadiums don't alternate between one and the other, though. Seattle has its roof closed on occasion, as Arizona also has its roof open time to time. Not only is it the roof, it's also the panels... and the ball's flight may take effect as well. I don't know if they would consider all of this stuff when implementing a retractable roof for stadiums, but if this video is any indication (and any of it is actually from the game itself), I think we might be in for a real treat down the road... to the show.
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            • thaSLAB
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              • Feb 2008
              • 4495

              #21
              Originally posted by Knight165
              If you watch "Gameday" on MLB.com...they have Show banners and ads in there(funny since another game actually has the MLB ties! Nice steal Sony!). It looks nothing like this...but ....

              M.K.
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              Yeah I have noticed that too. It prompted a post I made about SCEA requesting a network branding deal in return.


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              • nomo17k
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                • Feb 2011
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                #22
                Re: Is This the New Miami Marlins Ballpark in MLB 12 The Show?

                Originally posted by Blzer
                Normally, if the forecast predicts severe weather or extreme heat, they'll leave the roof closed anyway. It's not a bad default in those places where this stuff happens often, but if they have to do it, they might go between innings and make it happen. Otherwise, it's just not that common.

                That's not to say stadiums don't alternate between one and the other, though. Seattle has its roof closed on occasion, as Arizona also has its roof open time to time. Not only is it the roof, it's also the panels... and the ball's flight may take effect as well. I don't know if they would consider all of this stuff when implementing a retractable roof for stadiums, but if this video is any indication (and any of it is actually from the game itself), I think we might be in for a real treat down the road... to the show.
                I just asked because Russell_SCEA said that the stadium models are not made of lego pieces, which perhaps means they are static and made of no dynamic components. So if people really want true dynamic weather implemented some time later and the stadium roofs respond accordingly *during the game*, then continuing on with the system with stadium models with roofs open/closed might not go a long way...

                (Either way I'm fine...)

                it's just amazing how much realism people want in this game, and once the models for stadiums with roof open/closed get implemented, there probably will be some people crying out loud for IN-GAME dynamical roof opening/closing based on weather change...

                It's so hard to satisfy everyone!
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                • jd369
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                  • Sep 2008
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                  #23
                  Re: Is This the New Miami Marlins Ballpark in MLB 12 The Show?

                  Originally posted by nomo17k
                  I'm sorry for being uninitiated, but in real life do they ever close/open the roof *during* a game due to a sudden weather change? (Of course they wouldn't do that intentionally, but I'm just wondering if it is done rather regularly...)
                  it doesnt happen often, but the mlb rule is that if the roof is open and weather warrants it being closed then it will be closed at the completion of the current full inning. now from what I have read most roofs take 20-30 minutes to fully close, so it may be possible to not wait for the inning to end if the weather is bad enough.

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                  • ty5oke
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                    • Feb 2003
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                    #24
                    Re: Is This the New Miami Marlins Ballpark in MLB 12 The Show?

                    Originally posted by nomo17k
                    I'm sorry for being uninitiated, but in real life do they ever close/open the roof *during* a game due to a sudden weather change? (Of course they wouldn't do that intentionally, but I'm just wondering if it is done rather regularly...)
                    Been to a few games at Safeco where they have closed the roof during the game.
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                    • Blzer
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                      • Mar 2004
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                      #25
                      Re: Is This the New Miami Marlins Ballpark in MLB 12 The Show?

                      Originally posted by nomo17k
                      I just asked because Russell_SCEA said that the stadium models are not made of lego pieces, which perhaps means they are static and made of no dynamic components. So if people really want true dynamic weather implemented some time later and the stadium roofs respond accordingly *during the game*, then continuing on with the system with stadium models with roofs open/closed might not go a long way...

                      (Either way I'm fine...)

                      it's just amazing how much realism people want in this game, and once the models for stadiums with roof open/closed get implemented, there probably will be some people crying out loud for IN-GAME dynamical roof opening/closing based on weather change...

                      It's so hard to satisfy everyone!
                      I said this in another post once before, but I don't think people are necessarily looking for their roof to close mid-game. I think most people would just like to see the option of having their roof opened or closed for their game once they begin playing it, kind of like what All Star Baseball offered (well, I can't really remember if it was an option, or if it was just closed when it was raining, but they had two different types).

                      The problem with that would still mean that they would have to have a cloned version of their current stadium model, alongside the new aspects of the stadium being closed. That said, they would still have to do some building and modeling, and the other issue is one of memory. These stadiums take up quite a bit of space; the classic stadiums are probably DLC for that very reason. Having an open option and a closed option would probably mean having two different stadiums, and that maybe be a resourcefully incompetent procedure for them.

                      The alternative, as has been suggested, is to re-work the stadium so that it functions to both open and close, and I think that would take much, much longer to do. Hopefully, this new Marlins stadium is the start of that, but I can't be sure that any/all of this is actual in-game footage from MLB 12: The Show.
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                      • Woodweaver
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                        • Apr 2006
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                        #26
                        Re: Is This the New Miami Marlins Ballpark in MLB 12 The Show?

                        Originally posted by jd369
                        it doesnt happen often, but the mlb rule is that if the roof is open and weather warrants it being closed then it will be closed at the completion of the current full inning. now from what I have read most roofs take 20-30 minutes to fully close, so it may be possible to not wait for the inning to end if the weather is bad enough.

                        Now you've hit upon the real reason we don't have retractable roofs in the game. Do you really want to extend games and/or load times by 20-30 mins!?!?


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                        • Errors Occurred
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                          • Aug 2011
                          • 360

                          #27
                          Re: Is This the New Miami Marlins Ballpark in MLB 12 The Show?

                          It doesn't really matter if the roof opens up are not because wow the Marlins ballpark looks un-real and if this is the version for the show then I don't know what to say other than WOW!!!

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                          • sydrogerdavid
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                            • May 2009
                            • 3109

                            #28
                            I'm saying it's not real. The Show banners themselves look like they say MLB 09 The Show. Besides, it's too good to be true.

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                            • bp4baseball
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                              • Dec 2009
                              • 1315

                              #29
                              Re: Is This the New Miami Marlins Ballpark in MLB 12 The Show?

                              Originally posted by sydrogerdavid
                              I'm saying it's not real. The Show banners themselves look like they say MLB 09 The Show. Besides, it's too good to be true.
                              You're right the banners are clearly not this year's because there is no red number. And as you say they seem to be 09 or something like that...which would seem odd to have put in older banners into a new model even if it's not Mlb The Show's model.
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                                • Aug 2011
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                                #30
                                Re: Is This the New Miami Marlins Ballpark in MLB 12 The Show?

                                Originally posted by sydrogerdavid
                                I'm saying it's not real. The Show banners themselves look like they say MLB 09 The Show. Besides, it's too good to be true.
                                Man that hurts I hope you are wrong I was about to jump off the hood of my truck in joy i'm to scared of heights to jump off anything any taller lol

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