MLB 12 The Show Screenshots - Your New Default Camera View and Other Tidbits

[GWPump23]

Re: MLB 12 The Show Screenshots - Your New Default Camera View and Other Tidbits

Whether you like it or not the vita version took up a lot of time. There is no special separate development team to do it. Also, if you do not think this had any affect on things: http://www.operationsports.com/forum...-director.html you are fooling yourself. Aaron, the person who is dealing with franchise now is very committed to the challenge. This is not to say there won't be any changes to franchise in 12, there will be! It may not be what everyone is expecting but life happens and we have to deal!

All franchise needs is a little tweaking & tightening IMO. I DO feel confident that it will be better, this game ALWYS gets better.

I play franchise exclusively & in fairness to SouthOakland... when swing stick & analog controls were added to "11", features many of us don't (yes, many DO) use, we were told that "Chise" (never liked that abbreviation) mode was gunna get the majority of "12's" focus...

So again & in fairness to SouthOakland... Many of us franchise guys we're starting & ending threads last season with "wait till next year". Well, "2012" iIS here ;-)

THAT said... SCEA, I LOVE you product! It' the ONLY game I play... It's FAR superior! No, "Buts" to follow...

-GW-

[southoakland16]

Re: MLB 12 The Show Screenshots - Your New Default Camera View and Other Tidbits

What do people expect to see? It's a VIDEO GAME. It will never look like real life. There representation of it though is better than any sports game out there.

True it is a video game, but it is irritating when you have people who just say "The Show is the greatest thing since slice bread" and they have nothing to improve, when in reality there is numerous things that need improvement.

To answer your question about "franchise improvements." If there are 5 different bugs that plague this franchise this will be a fail. I PAY FOR A GAME TO WORK RIGHT OF THE BOX, NOT USE WORKAROUNDS. I will not stand for paying $60 to be the testers of the game. If that 2014 bug is still in franchise there is a problem... As I have stated in previous posts, Divisional and World Series presentation need to be upgraded... IT IS STALE!

[DJ]

Re: MLB 12 The Show Screenshots - Your New Default Camera View and Other Tidbits

I like the new batting angle. The pitcher definitely looks smaller and more zoomed out. A nice change for what I like. I also like the overall pitcher confidence and fatigue meter.

Yeah, I like the new default batting angle as well. It's very similar to the setup I'm using in MLB 11, so hopefully I can jump right in and be very mediocre at the plate

I'm a "hardcore" guy, but I have no issue with the fatigue and confidence meter being on the screen. We're playing a videogame, so if the developers feel having those bars would be of benefit to the gamers, what's the big deal? I get that some people like to have a "clean" screen, but those graphics are only on the screen for a few seconds; once the pitch is on its way, the screen clears off the graphics.

People are entitled to their own opinions, but I think some of this stuff gets way overblown. Again, it's a videogame. You can choose to enjoy it, or dissect every nugget of information 100 times over until you are convinced that the game is horrible.

[Falcon999]

Love the new runners window. Just hope we'll see one when there's a runner on second, not just first and third base.

[Knight165]

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Even though I'm sure I'm responding to a PBU I'll bite.

Show me one post where anyone said that this game doesn't need anything improved on. I'll save you the time. You won't find it.

That being said....

-Franchise was indeed worked on, it just hasn't received the massive overhaul that the team(Aaron in particular) wants to do. Just not enough time even if he started DAY ONE on trying to squeeze it in with the Vita development(there is just no way around not developing for the Vita...love it-hate it or be indifferent to it). So rather than have a potential huge problem with that, the team did the only smart thing they could do. Focus on tightening up franchise. I'd guess there will STILL be things changed a bit to it as well(as some were noted in a previous pre-release item).
You can just accept that as reality for now or not.
I'll stay on franchise a bit.....as I know they are working on the bugs that yes....have plagued the mode for a number of years. You will notice in the list of newcomers to the event that tabarnes is participating this year and I can guarantee that this is a direct result of the fact that he poured over franchise mode last year to figure out lingering problems(this was for the O.S. community ....not for SCEA.....just for US he spent time ripping it apart to figure things out). Ramone, who cares very much about community participation in helping develop this product realized this and what do you know.....he brought him in!
It's become a double edged sword for SCEA....allowing the community to get so involved in developing this problem. They want to involve us on every level they can, but in doing so, they are opening themselves up to what we are seeing now, guys complaining about "promises" and things they asked for.....and particularly in this sort of situation....where something out of it's control comes into the picture, making it impossible to add them all or please everyone with the changes made anyway.
IMO, some guys have really become jaded and dare I say a bit spoiled!(which is probably a GOOD thing in some way...the fact that we have become a bit spoiled....MYSELF included!) about the development of this game. We've sort of come to expect it ....if we post it......but that's not realistic and guys forget that.
It's a real shame that some guys try to capitalize on this though rather than focus on the great things done to this franchise year in and year out...
I'm going a bit off here...sorry.....
It's my end of year rant I guess!!!!



M.K.
Knight165

[BlackBetty15]

Re: MLB 12 The Show Screenshots - Your New Default Camera View and Other Tidbits

I agree...I mean things could be a ton worse if I were a sole 360 owner. (See what I did there) my big issue (not a game killer but rather an irk) is ramone said he did "focus groups" on mob the show the consensus stated that the show was too hard so that's why all the clutter and the hardcore group is just gonna have to deal with it...I mean he dismisses every.notion to just have the option to turn it off. Goodness sake, I mean there is a difficulty anyways for casual gamers. I just want the option to turn it off like I do the strike zone and its not that they can't its they won't or don't feel like it. It kinda feels like if I am not in the inner circle the heck with my voice.

[Knight165]

Re: MLB 12 The Show Screenshots - Your New Default Camera View and Other Tidbits

I agree...I mean things could be a ton worse if I were a sole 360 owner. (See what I did there) my big issue (not a game killer but rather an irk) is ramone said he did "focus groups" on mob the show the consensus stated that the show was too hard so that's why all the clutter and the hardcore group is just gonna have to deal with it...I mean he dismisses every.notion to just have the option to turn it off. Goodness sake, I mean there is a difficulty anyways for casual gamers. I just want the option to turn it off like I do the strike zone and its not that they can't its they won't or don't feel like it. It kinda feels like if I am not in the inner circle the heck with my voice.

He does not mean "the inner circle" when he speaks of this.
....actually what you refer to as "the inner circle" is EXACTLY where YOUR voice gets heard. Every one of the guys going to CD has a list directly from right here on O.S. right from your posts. Mine is usually 10 pages long printed directly from the threads.


M.K.
Knight165

[BlackBetty15]

Re: MLB 12 The Show Screenshots - Your New Default Camera View and Other Tidbits

He does not mean "the inner circle" when he speaks of this.
....actually what you refer to as "the inner circle" is EXACTLY where YOUR voice gets heard. Every one of the guys going to CD has a list directly from right here on O.S. right from your posts. Mine is usually 10 pages long printed directly from the threads.


M.K.
Knight165

Lol...10 pages? Nice...look brother, when you go up there please ask someone who does that paticular area of the game to please just consider giving us the option...its all I ask and really want to happen. Game looks phenominal outside of that.

[speels]

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Why can't we turn the onscreen "clutter" off then!
In 12 it looks even more like your playing a videogame than in previous installments.
Make it at least a little more clean looking, now it looks like everything is thrown in the corner for the sake of having it there. Put it in a nice box or something I dunno.

Isn't this pure beauty!





Ok that was my last rant about the subject, I do like the new score overlay though

Okay, for all you people that are having a coronary episode about all the clutter and then turn around and compare it to these screenshots, in both of these, the ball is in play. The first has the pitcher starting his pitch and the second is while the pitcher is pitching.

All the "clutter" is taken off the screen when the play is started......just like every year. The "clutter" is only on the screen pre-pitch.

[BlackBetty15]

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Okay, for all you people that are having a coronary episode about all the clutter and then turn around and compare it to these screenshots, in both of these, the ball is in play. The first has the pitcher starting his pitch and the second is while the pitcher is pitching.

All the "clutter" is taken off the screen when the play is started......just like every year. The "clutter" is only on the screen pre-pitch.

Lol...look man, I understand how it might be minuscule to you and in the grand scheme of things it probably is. But truth is it takes away from the broadcast experience. Period...I as a hardcore gamers want as little as HUD as I can get. It's all I can do to celebrate when I unlocked hardcore mode in mw3...It's the nroadcast/competition aspect of it all. It forces me to scout my opponent pitcher BEFOREHAND instead of having neat little bits of info about said pitcher all over my stinking screen. It's not like the batter can call time to the ump before each pitch to take a ganders at his pocket scouting guide. If we can't have the hardcore HUD, what's the point of all star and HOF difficulty then.

[HustlinOwl]

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Okay, for all you people that are having a coronary episode about all the clutter and then turn around and compare it to these screenshots, in both of these, the ball is in play. The first has the pitcher starting his pitch and the second is while the pitcher is pitching.

All the "clutter" is taken off the screen when the play is started......just like every year. The "clutter" is only on the screen pre-pitch.

exactly, do any of these people actually take the time to think before they post

[peigone]

Re: MLB 12 The Show Screenshots - Your New Default Camera View and Other Tidbits

But truth is it takes away from the broadcast experience. Period...I as a hardcore gamers want as little as HUD as I can get.

But in reality, when all is said and done, doesn't the math come down to this:

10 (game score) - 0.1 (HUD pre-pitch) = 9.9 (game score after subtraction)

Meaning, you're still going to rush out and buy the game Day 1 because it's a 9.9 game. And all this New Year's Eve discussion hubbub will be long forgotten.

[BlackBetty15]

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But in reality, when all is said and done, doesn't the math come down to this:

10 (game score) - 0.1 (HUD pre-pitch) = 9.9 (game score after subtraction)

Meaning, you're still going to rush out and buy the game Day 1 because it's a 9.9 game. And all this New Year's Eve discussion hubbub will be long forgotten.

Yes...(sigh) its a vicous cycle. Lol its always a day one buy.

[SoxFan01605]

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exactly, do any of these people actually take the time to think before they post

Funny...I was thinking the same thing about his post...

I've never understood why people asking for an option for something that matters to them bothers supposedly uninterested others so much.

For the record (as one of the people who apparently doesn't think clearly and has a heart condition ), I'm well aware that the clutter is there pre-pitch. I'd personally like it removed anyway, as I'd like an option for a clean screen. It's moot for now though, as we know it's not in 12.

[LastActionHero]

Okay, for all you people that are having a coronary episode about all the clutter and then turn around and compare it to these screenshots, in both of these, the ball is in play. The first has the pitcher starting his pitch and the second is while the pitcher is pitching.

All the "clutter" is taken off the screen when the play is started......just like every year. The "clutter" is only on the screen pre-pitch.

I know that but that was the only way to show it in those screens. It was more to get the idea how it could look pre-pitch. Some don't care some do, that's how it is in life and that's why this game has so many options...besides this one that is