MLB 12 The Show Screenshots - Your New Default Camera View and Other Tidbits

[Phi4life]

Screens are looking great! I really like the new score bug design unintrussive sleek and not taking up too much real estate. I rather this format then the clunky side ones that cover up my stadium. If you have watched enough games you know they go back and forth between the 2 formats. There is only so many ways you can lay the same info out. this years they just happen to be doing the side ones on tv but again between the 2 formats I prefer te horizontal layout hands down. The new one on fox looks like toy r us designed it. Please add pitch count on the score bug, that would be a small but usefull feature.

Looking at the comparison shots from last year looks like the guess pitch is under the pitch selection now, has the functionality changed? It used to be its own osd?. Also I do like the larger pitch bars much better, before they were too small and not easy to see. As a hole this is looking very promising can't wait to see more screens!! As everybody else is mentioning please give us the option to turn things on or off, do I really need the power swing osd there oh and the pci graphic doesn't fit the rest of stuff on screen, hopefully not final. I do like the pitch info piece I think that kind of info can really help me fine tune my pitching, without having to l3 all the time. But again once I've mastered it let me turn it off!

[Bahnzo]

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One thing I'll never understand, is how companies that make sports equipment (like Rawlings, Louisville, etc) wouldn't be clamoring to have their stuff in games? Especially something as good and as respected as The Show.

Or maybe I'm thinking about it the wrong way...maybe they want to be in and were refused for whatever reason(s)? Can't pretend to know how the licensing works.

[decga]

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Nope, the logo isn't on the bat anymore, not a big deal. The Show does still have Majestic though.

Not big deal to me either. I have been this product since 2004. I just play the game and love it.

[Bobhead]

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One thing I'll never understand, is how companies that make sports equipment (like Rawlings, Louisville, etc) wouldn't be clamoring to have their stuff in games? Especially something as good and as respected as The Show.

Or maybe I'm thinking about it the wrong way...maybe they want to be in and were refused for whatever reason(s)? Can't pretend to know how the licensing works.

I don't know how licensing works with regards to sports either, but your logic isn't that far off. In (good) movies, companies pay to have their products in a movie. I don't know if MLB is an issue here, and I'd imagine it is, but in a perfect world the same would hold true in video games, and a game development company could hypothetically profit from allowing brand names in their game.

But like I said I'm sure the core issue here is that Bud Selig guy. Maybe he doesn't want these brand names accidentally misrepresented, and so MLB refuse brand incorporation altogether.

Or maybe MLB requests chicken dinners that Russell refuses to part with.

[nomo17k]

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I think we are going to eventually see dynamic ads in video games (I bet some games do already... am just not familiar with too many games...). We already have something like State Farm advertising on the Show...

The Show could sell ad spaces in those stadiums, tie that in with Google ad-sense or something, so 20-something would see cars or some fashion items, whereas 40-/50-somethings would see Viagra ads.

So it doesn't even have to be baseball-related companies...

What we see on TV broadcast they already cater the contents to the audience digitally, so the technology is definitely there. Maybe it isn't worth the effort yet...

[jd369]

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This is funny that someone said this is not a Q & A thread yet that is all anyone on here is doing. I asked a question about stats on page 25 or around there and I was told that this is not for questions. Almost everyone on here is getting theirs answered but I dont get squat. Thanks guys. Remember that this is not a Q & A thread.

exactly why there needs to be an OFFICIAL Q & A thread...

[jd369]

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I don't know how licensing works with regards to sports either, but your logic isn't that far off. In (good) movies, companies pay to have their products in a movie. I don't know if MLB is an issue here, and I'd imagine it is, but in a perfect world the same would hold true in video games, and a game development company could hypothetically profit from allowing brand names in their game.

But like I said I'm sure the core issue here is that Bud Selig guy. Maybe he doesn't want these brand names accidentally misrepresented, and so MLB refuse brand incorporation altogether.

Or maybe MLB requests chicken dinners that Russell refuses to part with.

Im sure the MLB is the reason for it (since MLB games are the only major sports game without licensed equipment). Is it that they want money on top of having to pay the equipment companies (I cant see how that would even be legal)? It would be nice to get an ACTUAL answer instead of the "we cant but cant tell you why" thats getting a bit old. No ones getting sued for saying "the MLB wants too much money etc etc" and if they are then theres more wrong with this world than getting some nikes in a baseball game.

[Bobhead]

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exactly why there needs to be an OFFICIAL Q & A thread...

And the questions would be answered by who? you? You realize that the developers are already doing us an incredible favor by even participating in discussions, or even by having accounts on these forums? They don't have to do any of that. Look what happened in that other thread (or maybe it was this one? I don't remember). Russell tried to be nice and answer a few questions, and before you know it, there was like 8 pages of questions, and people complaining that their question had not been answered.

I'm not saying there's anything wrong with wanting answers, but I think some of us need to take a look in the mirror and remind ourselves who is on the more fortunate side of the Dev/OS cooperation deal.

[Heroesandvillains]

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Q&A thread(s) should be opening soon; if years past are any indication. Not to mention some extremely valuable writeup/question/response threads by the CES attendees.

Just a little bit of patience guys. I know, easier said than done.

[nemesis04]

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Q&A thread(s) should be opening soon; if years past are any indication. Not to mention some extremely valuable writeup/question/response threads by the CES attendees.

Just a little bit of patience guys. I know, easier said than done.

Correct! There will be a Community day discussion: Question & Answer thread up soon. There will be a ton of info shared!

[EnigmaNemesis]

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One thing I'll never understand, is how companies that make sports equipment (like Rawlings, Louisville, etc) wouldn't be clamoring to have their stuff in games? Especially something as good and as respected as The Show.

Or maybe I'm thinking about it the wrong way...maybe they want to be in and were refused for whatever reason(s)? Can't pretend to know how the licensing works.

Im sure the MLB is the reason for it (since MLB games are the only major sports game without licensed equipment). Is it that they want money on top of having to pay the equipment companies (I cant see how that would even be legal)? It would be nice to get an ACTUAL answer instead of the "we cant but cant tell you why" thats getting a bit old. No ones getting sued for saying "the MLB wants too much money etc etc" and if they are then theres more wrong with this world than getting some nikes in a baseball game.

It is not the companies themselves.

It is the MLB Union... since the players "wear said equipment"... the Union "wants their cut of the pie now too".

It is too expensive and complex. The uniforms and hats are a tad different and are licensed because they are part of the MLB Style Guide... everything else is "players personal choice"...

Not going to get into it any more than that due to legalese reasons, and not wanting to piss off their licensees... but that is how business is now-a-days. It is not spoken upon by Sony officially, because that is not how big business works. You respect each other and work with each other and there is give and take.

That is why gone are the days where you can push the envelope like 2K, Acclaim, EA, etc used to. Better safe than sorry.

Football/Hockey/Basketball, etc have totally different unions. I can only speak for what I know about the MLB one, and why it is recently been so complex.

[jd369]

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And the questions would be answered by who? you? You realize that the developers are already doing us an incredible favor by even participating in discussions, or even by having accounts on these forums? They don't have to do any of that. Look what happened in that other thread (or maybe it was this one? I don't remember). Russell tried to be nice and answer a few questions, and before you know it, there was like 8 pages of questions, and people complaining that their question had not been answered.

I'm not saying there's anything wrong with wanting answers, but I think some of us need to take a look in the mirror and remind ourselves who is on the more fortunate side of the Dev/OS cooperation deal.

Now why would I answer the questions? Do I make the game? You had to know that was pretty ridiculous even as you typed it out. These guys GET PAID to spend time on the internet conversing with people that purchase their game. Your example is exactly why there needs to be an official QA thread. then people could get their questions answered in one place with a set up format. That way people wouldnt have to complain that they arent getting questions answered. when theres 10 different questions in 10 different threads that would make it near impossible to get to everyone so it only takes a little common sense to show that one thread for questions is the way to go. Its a pretty simple concept: someone asks a question, one of the devs quotes it and and gives an answer, any other post is either ignored or deleted. Its great to have them here, but no one is doing anyone a "favor" when they are on the clock making money to post on the net.

[EnigmaNemesis]

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Now why would I answer the questions? Do I make the game? You had to know that was pretty ridiculous even as you typed it out. These guys GET PAID to spend time on the internet conversing with people that purchase their game. Your example is exactly why there needs to be an official QA thread. then people could get their questions answered in one place with a set up format. That way people wouldnt have to complain that they arent getting questions answered. when theres 10 different questions in 10 different threads that would make it near impossible to get to everyone so it only takes a little common sense to show that once thread for questions is the way to go. Its a pretty simple concept: someone asks a question, one of the devs quotes and and gives an answer, anything other post is either ignored or deleted. Its great to have them here, but no one is doing anyone a "favor" when they are on the clock making money to post on the net.

Read this from above...

Q&A thread(s) should be opening soon; if years past are any indication. Not to mention some extremely valuable writeup/question/response threads by the CES attendees.

Just a little bit of patience guys. I know, easier said than done.

Correct! There will be a Community day discussion: Question & Answer thread up soon. There will be a ton of info shared!

Stay tuned... when we are allowed to speak, you will get information answered within what we are allowed to talk about.

And I, as well as the 6-7 other guys that are attending these community events, NOT getting paid, taking TIME OFF of work to do so, are not getting paid to answer your questions. We do it because we have so much passion for the game of baseball, this very video game, respect for the developers since they show us what they do, show us their very same passion by holding these events for the hardcore community (which is not even a dent in overall sales of the usebase), and our love for Operation Sports.

The devs do not have time to sit there and do a Q & A thread themselves. Ramone is insanely swamped this time of year, as well as the entire staff. Most right now have cots set up in their cubicles with the house pets with them. And never see their own home the next few months. Work 20 hours a day and sleep in their offices/cubicles. (I know one has his Pitbull across from Kolbe's now old office who scares the crap out of me late at night with the lights off, lol)

Ramone and Woodweaver are not paid to post. They do not even have to post. They are gathering information, and when they see fit to answer something or give any tidbits, they then do so. And most on here who do not have the "entitled" way of thinking appreciate it.

You will see threads coming soon for us to gather information... and I am sure if it is anything like last year, a plethora of information will be coming your way. We just ask for everyone's patience and co-operation... because it can turn into a hot mess real quick.

[Woodweaver]

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Now why would I answer the questions? Do I make the game? You had to know that was pretty ridiculous even as you typed it out. These guys GET PAID to spend time on the internet conversing with people that purchase their game. Your example is exactly why there needs to be an official QA thread. then people could get their questions answered in one place with a set up format. That way people wouldnt have to complain that they arent getting questions answered. when theres 10 different questions in 10 different threads that would make it near impossible to get to everyone so it only takes a little common sense to show that one thread for questions is the way to go. Its a pretty simple concept: someone asks a question, one of the devs quotes it and and gives an answer, any other post is either ignored or deleted. Its great to have them here, but no one is doing anyone a "favor" when they are on the clock making money to post on the net.

1) I believe his question was rhetorical
2) We do NOT "GET PAID to spend time on the internet conversing with people that purchase their game."

[Heroesandvillains]

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Now why would I answer the questions? Do I make the game? You had to know that was pretty ridiculous even as you typed it out. These guys GET PAID to spend time on the internet conversing with people that purchase their game. Your example is exactly why there needs to be an official QA thread. then people could get their questions answered in one place with a set up format. That way people wouldnt have to complain that they arent getting questions answered. when theres 10 different questions in 10 different threads that would make it near impossible to get to everyone so it only takes a little common sense to show that one thread for questions is the way to go. Its a pretty simple concept: someone asks a question, one of the devs quotes it and and gives an answer, any other post is either ignored or deleted. Its great to have them here, but no one is doing anyone a "favor" when they are on the clock making money to post on the net.

JD,

If I'm not mistaken (which I frequently am, by the way), Q&A threads with Devs have taken place here on OS in the past. Not to say that's any guarantee that it will take place again, however.

Regardless, Nemesis04; and the other CES invitees, go in to painstaking detail once their time with the game and Dev team is over. Do a search for it, specifically Nemesis' thread from last year. It's astounding the things he was able to write about (as well as the others). I'd expect nothing short of the same from these guys this year, taking all of their remarkable character traits into consideration. Yeah, I'll be on these boards for hours on end. Mark my words. Great stuff!

That said, Russell_SCEA answers questions all over this board. I see you're not new here, but just incase you don't navigate the site too frequently, do a member search for his name once you believe he's taking part in MLB 12 Q&A. Also, other Devs such as Woodweaver and ESPECIALLY Brian_SCEA - if you want to have your mind blown - answer a treasure trove's worth of information pre-release and are worth looking up. It makes finding their posts much easier, especially if you chose to have the individual posts themselves show up in your results.