Tiger Stadium

[sixmillion]

Re: Tiger Stadium

Baseball people are too Loyal

Fenway is a hole plain and simple, besides that we all know AT&T is definatley better than any of those hands down.

but no "tradition" so what, move on baseball move on...

I know I am coming across as a traditionalist, don't get me wrong I love some of the newer parks also like At&T with that beautiful quirky right field wall that comes into play, and Camden Yards which in my opinion is the best of the bunch of all the newest parks which has that old school feel to it. But one important point to understand is that parks like Fenway and Tiger Stadium were built for the fans in mind ( very close to the action ) not like todays parks which are built for corporate bussiness with all those boxes etc.

Teams actually taylor their team to fit their home ballpark. The Yankees like left handed power hitters ( short right field ) , right handed line drive hitters excel at Fenway, That right field wall will increase your batting average.

[ParisB]

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I know I am coming across as a traditionalist, don't get me wrong I love some of the newer parks also like At&T with that beautiful quirky right field wall that comes into play, and Camden Yards which in my opinion is the best of the bunch of all the newest parks which has that old school feel to it. But one important point to understand is that parks like Fenway and Tiger Stadium were built for the fans in mind ( very close to the action ) not like todays parks which are built for corporate bussiness with all those boxes etc.

Teams actually taylor their team to fit their home ballpark. The Yankees like left handed power hitters ( short right field ) , right handed line drive hitters excel at Fenway, That right field wall will increase your batting average.

New stadiums have better seating angles, views, and overall fan experiences for the entire family. Just because they cater to corporations also (with luxury boxes etc.) doesn't mean that the fans are left out to dry. That's just a common misconception, which again, is based on the nostalgia factor that "memories" are better. It's not really true if you detach yourself from that.

It's also different times, and there's nothing wrong with that. Baseball was a business back then, just as it is today. Sponsors, ads, corporate boxes, are all part of the package in today's time.

Complaining about this is like complaining that basketball was better when they played with peach baskets and in outdoor areas. Just doesn't make sense to hold progression against it.

I can guarantee you that if your kid grows up going to somewhere like Safeco through his childhood, maybe in 35 years when they get a new park he will complain that it doesn't have the aura of the older Safeco etc.

catch my drift?

[CabreraMVP]

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New Stadiums defenitely lack the "authentic" feel of the stadiums of the past, but personally I could never hate a baseball stadium. Yea, Comerica Park is nowhere near as special as Tiger Stadium was, but I still love Comerica and try to spend every second of my days there in the summer.

But you have to understand, Tiger Stadium was almost 90 years old, it was way out of date, wasn't very accomadating for fans and ESPECIALLY players, it was time to build a new stadium. I can't argue that. I just have a problem with how they let it rot when it carried so much history and meant so much to the fans.

Look at Wrigley. These places are dumps for players. The clubhouses are so small and packed in and miserable. I've been in the Tigers clubhouse quite a few times and it's like a palace down there with plenty of room for players to do whatever their heart desires. I've read things where players complain about Wrigley. The Bathrooms are horrible for the fans. Obstructed view seats. Rotted suport beams. It's 100 years old.

All good things must to come an end as they say. In Wrigley's case, they really need a new stadium. All you can ask is that they preserve Wrigley and keep it alive in whatever way they choose. Don't let it rot away to the city like Tiger Stadium did.

I can guarantee you that if your kid grows up going to somewhere like Safeco through his childhood, maybe in 35 years when they get a new park he will complain that it doesn't have the aura of the older Safeco etc.

This is so true. Nostalgia is everything. Many people see Comerica as the generic coorperate stadium that is terrible. I know people who refuse to go there, ever. But to me, I grew up there. I'm only 18 and some of my fondest memories are me and my dad heading down there in the 119 loss season and seeing so many games. I love this place and it will always be my favorite because I grew up here. I love the skyline along the outfield, I love the weirdness of the Left Field Area, I love the new scoreboard. I loved the old scoreboard (I will kind of miss it because of the nostalgia factor, even though it was ugly).

I'm sure in my lifetime the Tigers will build a new stadium, and it probably won't compare to Comerica Park in my mind. I'll probably be 90 years old telling kids at the stadium about how beautiful the old stadium was and how it was a cathedral, the same way we all reminisce about stadiums now. We will all be the same way.

[Perfect Zero]

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I think there needs to be a balance between the two sides. I was able to catch a game at Yankee Stadium during its final year. Although the nostalgia was great and the history oozed through the stadium, the place was quite the dump. If the Yankees had the same history as say the Mets, nobody would clammer for that stadium any longer.

Sometimes, I think we are swept up by the nostalgia and we really want to go back to our youth. I would love to go to just one more game at Arlington Stadium. I'll never forget my first major league game there; September 7th, 1993 on my fifth birthday with my parents and grandparents (my Grandmother and I shared a birthday fifty years apart). Everything about that ballpark was neat. The aroma of jalapenos from nachos, the cool breeze on a hot evening in the upper deck, the dot race where the dots actually raced around the board. It was all perfect.

And yet, the Ballpark in Arlington does this and much more better. Arlington Stadium might have been the birthplace of ballpark nachos and the dot race (although Colt Stadium might have the rights to hot weather all summer long), but the place was a considered a dump not long after the Rangers moved into the place. We can now find stats at any part of the park. We have better sound systems and electronics to enhance fan interaction. The Ballpark is still in wonderful shape, and it was custom made for this team.

I'm using the Rangers as an example, but that could be said for many of the teams that had historic ballparks that are now nostalgic. Someday, Wrigley, Fenway, even Dodger Stadium and many more will be replaced. You can only catch chunks of concrete with netting for so long before the whole thing falls apart. I've heard that the Cubs are looking to move into New Comiskey Park for the 2013-14 seasons so they can re-do the infield portion of Wrigley Field to bring it up to date and make sure it can live to see another hundred years.

Baseball is like a chalkboard. We write on it, we use it to create our greatest glories, and they we erase it so we can build on it anew. At some point, every stadium will have to meet the eraser. It's what the new piece of chalk does that make the future brighter.

[tigerfanjoe]

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Being a from the area tiger stadium was great, and shouldn't be forgotten. I would be great to be able to play in it in the show, maybe with the new diamond dynasty they'll have classic park packs you can use to have your team play in . But tiger stadium was sitting there rotting, they had no way of fixing it. There was no chance of rebuilding it. Comerica Park isn't all that bad, I wouldn't blame Mr. I either for them moving, sometimes teams just have to move on.

[pc21]

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Last summer our family went to the field where Tiger Stadium once stood. We brought bats and gloves and played some ball. We also just stood and looked at the field and remembered what once was. I collected some paint chips off the center field flag pole and also collected some dirt from the infield and pitchers mound. Attended a few games at Tiger Stadium and have good memories.

[CabreraMVP]

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If anybody is interested in playing there this summer, add me as a friend on here. I have a full army eager to head down there when it's warm. I'll hit you up when the time comes.

[Clarke99]

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The age is just under at 28, I have two Large (table reading) stadium books. My opinion is by no means the end all be all.
Old parks have the great feel to them, I get it. Its just some of the newer ones blow my socks off.

I am Biased against fenway more so though for the simple fact of the Monster. Its one thing to have a few small quirks, but that wall is too much of an advantage for the home team.

I understand the appreciation of an older ballpark, but some (like fenway) I just dont get it. I would personally Take Wrigley over Fenway any day of the week.

[sixmillion]

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New stadiums have better seating angles, views, and overall fan experiences for the entire family. Just because they cater to corporations also (with luxury boxes etc.) doesn't mean that the fans are left out to dry. That's just a common misconception, which again, is based on the nostalgia factor that "memories" are better. It's not really true if you detach yourself from that.

It's also different times, and there's nothing wrong with that. Baseball was a business back then, just as it is today. Sponsors, ads, corporate boxes, are all part of the package in today's time.

Complaining about this is like complaining that basketball was better when they played with peach baskets and in outdoor areas. Just doesn't make sense to hold progression against it.

I can guarantee you that if your kid grows up going to somewhere like Safeco through his childhood, maybe in 35 years when they get a new park he will complain that it doesn't have the aura of the older Safeco etc.

catch my drift?

First off let me say that please bear in mind that I am not trying to take anything away from our game, just add more Like Tiger Stadium ...haha

Having said that, think about this for a moment: Remember back in the late 60's early 70's when they were all building the cookie cutter stadiums - they were all as round as pacman, all had the new innovative astro turf, they were all 330 down the lines and 400 straight away. Richie Hebner , longtime infielder for the Phillies and Pirates once said that " when I am at the plate in PHilly, Pittsburg, Cincy or St. Louis , I can't tell the difference where I am at , they all look alike " They thought these modern looking ballparks with fake grass was the thing of the future and then everybody wanted one.

AH Ha , But then they figured we made a mistake, we are taking away the personality and character of what baseball is, was. Imagine if all golf courses were laid out the same, hmmm, with all these new golf courses built all the time if you ask the current PGA tour players their favorite place to play, most will tell you Agusta in Georgia, Why becasue of the nastalga and character and yes the layout of the course, one of the oldest courses around, and they are keeping it that way because it works and it is loved.

So they decided we have to get ballparks back to where it used to be. So in April of 1992 when Oriole Park At Camden Yards opened it was a return to the classic ballparks , the new Retro look and feel. It has an asymytrical playing surface and that beautiful warehouse in right with the large out of town scoreboard coming into play. So then everybody wanted to get rid of the cookie cutters and build a new ballpark, hence it is what we have now.

As a matter of fact in the ballpark in Texas the two tierd grandstand in right field is a tribute to Tiger Stadium, and the left wall was modeled after Fenways green monster, a mini green moster if you will.

So now we have absolutely beautiful ballparks again in the majors, PNC park in Pittsburg, Coors field in Colorado, Commerica Park in Detroit, Pecto Park in San Diego etc. and I love them.

Having said all that, I love the video game the show and how it plays, but I would love to be able to play with the current tigers in a season in Tiger Stadium in this game now that they have Prince Fielder. His daddy , Cecil once hit a ball over the left field roof at Tiger Stadium.

[Perfect Zero]

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As a matter of fact in the ballpark in Texas the two tierd grandstand in right field is a tribute to Tiger Stadium, and the left wall was modeled after Fenways green monster, a mini green moster if you will.

The first part of that statement is true, but they didn't do too much of a good job with it. If it was a true tribute, the overhang from the upper section would extend past the outfield wall (it's still nice to sit under it during summer days though).

The last part is not correct; the wall in right is a result of a) a need for an out of town scoreboard, and b) the result of the design of the third base side extending around the left field poll and to the office buildings in center.

[sixmillion]

Re: Tiger Stadium

The first part of that statement is true, but they didn't do too much of a good job with it. If it was a true tribute, the overhang from the upper section would extend past the outfield wall (it's still nice to sit under it during summer days though).

The last part is not correct; the wall in right is a result of a) a need for an out of town scoreboard, and b) the result of the design of the third base side extending around the left field poll and to the office buildings in center.

I read an article in a ballpark book I have regarding the left field wall in Texas as a tribute to Fenway Park.

Also, I am correct in saying this: straight from the Wikipedia : The out-of-town scoreboard (removed in 2009 and replaced with a state-of-the-art videoboard from Daktronics) was built into the left-field wall—a nod to Fenway Park,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rangers_Ballpark_in_Arlington

[Perfect Zero]

Re: Tiger Stadium

I read an article in a ballpark book I have regarding the left field wall in Texas as a tribute to Fenway Park.

Also, I am correct in saying this: straight from the Wikipedia : The out-of-town scoreboard (removed in 2009 and replaced with a state-of-the-art videoboard from Daktronics) was built into the left-field wall—a nod to Fenway Park,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rangers...k_in_Arlington

Oh wow! You cited Wikipedia! As we all know, Wikipedia is completely infallible and cannot be edited by anybody who doesn't know what they're talking about!

All sarcasm aside, if it truly was a "mini monster," the the wall would be 305 feet away and would span past the visitor's bullpen. It may look like it if you squint your eyes really hard, but for those of us who don't peel onions it's just an outfield wall that was created for an out of town scoreboard flowing from the natural flow of the infield seats.

It reminds me of when the owner of the Rays said that the outfield at Tropicana Field was inspired by the nooks and crannies of Ebbets Field. I guess you think that that dome was modeled after the stadium in Brooklyn.

[jethrotull]

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I in all honestly would spend $20 extra to buy Tiger Stadium if they made it available for download. I'm not kidding I saw so many things at that ballpark.

[canyonblue]

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What is sad is that it went from this:



To this:

[WatchdogXC]

I'd love to get as many classic stadiums as possible. I always liked playing at Tiger Stadium. I know I'm in the minority because it really isn't nearly as good of a baseball stadium as Progressive Field but I used to love going to games at Cleveland Municipal Stadium. It was gigantic and not that fan friendly but I grew up loving baseball in that stadium. I liked how MVP 2005 had it in there.

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