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    Legen - WAIT FOR IT
    • Feb 2003
    • 39337

    #16
    Re: Online will make or break this game for me

    Originally posted by BaseballJunkiesCEO
    That series knows what they're doing with respect to online experience.
    You must be out of touch with what is really going on with the online portion of NBA 2k. Your perception, I would say, is completely wrong.

    If The Show is looking to match that online experience, then the complaints will far outweigh any positives.
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    • Da_Czar
      NBA 2K Gameplay Producer, Offensive AI System - SIM NATION
      • Jul 2002
      • 5408

      #17
      Re: Online will make or break this game for me

      Originally posted by Pared
      You must be out of touch with what is really going on with the online portion of NBA 2k. Your perception, I would say, is completely wrong.

      If The Show is looking to match that online experience, then the complaints will far outweigh any positives.
      I laughed hysterically when I read that myself. LOL
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      • PSNation
        Rookie
        • Feb 2009
        • 217

        #18
        Originally posted by nomo17k
        I think the press has access to online features for reviews, and they should be coming on Monday when the embargo will be lifted as far as I heard. So we'll hear some impressions by then.
        No, we didn't.

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        • Pared
          Legen - WAIT FOR IT
          • Feb 2003
          • 39337

          #19
          Re: Online will make or break this game for me

          Originally posted by Da_Czar
          I laughed hysterically when I read that myself. LOL
          I see you Czar!

          I couldn't believe it when I read it. Still in shock...
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          • Senor_Herbatron
            Pro
            • Oct 2007
            • 589

            #20
            Re: Online will make or break this game for me

            Neither MLB the Show or any of the 2k titles have been successful with online play. I'm not holding out hope anything has changed.
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            • MasonTK
              Rookie
              • Nov 2008
              • 215

              #21
              Re: Online will make or break this game for me

              Baseball doesn't need an online experience to be successful. I would say most sports games have a 70/30 offline to online ratio. NHL may be an exception, but they've become less of a sports franchise, and more of a 'call of duty'. As an NHL fan, I'm upset at the attention to online play over simulation, but it works for them.

              Baseball, on the other hand, is made for simulation. No one played NHL board games 20-30 years ago and kept detailed stats. If this game had only offline play, and took all the attention away from online, it would still sell very well. The fact is, young people like online play more, and young people trade/buy used. Look at the poll in this forum--most people that play this are 28+. The real baseball fanatics spend their time offline, and rightfully so.

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              • nomo17k
                Permanently Banned
                • Feb 2011
                • 5735

                #22
                Re: Online will make or break this game for me

                Originally posted by PSNation
                No, we didn't.

                Http://psnation.org
                Hmmm, maybe there are people with press disc and those who aren't...

                http://www.operationsports.com/forum...post2043420253

                I just meant to quote that post.
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                • deputydon
                  Rookie
                  • Nov 2011
                  • 42

                  #23
                  Re: Online will make or break this game for me

                  Wasn't it confirmed that they finally updated the game to support dedicated servers?

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                  • nemesis04
                    RIP Ty My Buddy
                    • Feb 2004
                    • 13530

                    #24
                    Re: Online will make or break this game for me

                    Originally posted by deputydon
                    Wasn't it confirmed that they finally updated the game to support dedicated servers?
                    It was but that does not mean instant success though.
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                    • BaseballJunkiesCEO
                      Rookie
                      • Feb 2012
                      • 21

                      #25
                      Re: Online will make or break this game for me

                      Originally posted by MasonTK
                      Baseball doesn't need an online experience to be successful. I would say most sports games have a 70/30 offline to online ratio. NHL may be an exception, but they've become less of a sports franchise, and more of a 'call of duty'. As an NHL fan, I'm upset at the attention to online play over simulation, but it works for them.

                      Baseball, on the other hand, is made for simulation. No one played NHL board games 20-30 years ago and kept detailed stats. If this game had only offline play, and took all the attention away from online, it would still sell very well. The fact is, young people like online play more, and young people trade/buy used. Look at the poll in this forum--most people that play this are 28+. The real baseball fanatics spend their time offline, and rightfully so.
                      I respect every thing you say , but most guys over 25 want a simulation with other adults. The single player franchise is awesome already, but guys want online franchises. We can beat up on the CPU all year and rip them off with trades. But online franchises you have the human element that makes it really fun. I think all sports game should focus more on the online because most adults with familys dont have time to play 162 games vs CPU. Us family guys want to hop online and give another user the business with our own custom teams and rosters. In my league its important to be a great GM and to have skills on the sticks. Thats just my opinion. When I was 15 I had time to play 162 games, but now I want leagues wit users. I compare it to fantasy baseball, only fun with your buddies
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                      • nomo17k
                        Permanently Banned
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 5735

                        #26
                        Re: Online will make or break this game for me

                        Originally posted by BaseballJunkiesCEO
                        I respect every thing you say , but most guys over 25 want a simulation with other adults. The single player franchise is awesome already, but guys want online franchises. We can beat up on the CPU all year and rip them off with trades. But online franchises you have the human element that makes it really fun. I think all sports game should focus more on the online because most adults with familys dont have time to play 162 games vs CPU. Us family guys want to hop online and give another user the business with our own custom teams and rosters. In my league its important to be a great GM and to have skills on the sticks. Thats just my opinion. When I was 15 I had time to play 162 games, but now I want leagues wit users. I compare it to fantasy baseball, only fun with your buddies

                        I agree that online games are fun, giving us entirely different experiences from offline. Basically you play against a bunch of different CPUs with all kinds of tendencies, and that's really fun, something I discovered playing online last year (by the way, are you running the Baseball Junkies the league?? I never really thought my experiences were glitch-y online there last year... I had a blast in your league in fact...).

                        CPU AI for the Show is pretty good, giving us challenges all the time, but it doesn't have varying tendencies that we humans have...

                        I don't necessarily think the priority should be given to online over offline, but I definitely think it's a worthy goal to make online gameplay as smooth and close to offline.

                        Edit: except the match fail bug at the start of some games... that was unacceptable bug.
                        Last edited by nomo17k; 03-05-2012, 03:15 PM.
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                        • fatleg3
                          MVP
                          • Aug 2008
                          • 3602

                          #27
                          Re: Online will make or break this game for me

                          For some reason The Show is one of the only games I can play offline and enjoy. I play every other sports games mostly online. But online will be the first thing I test out when I get this game

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                          • BaseballJunkiesCEO
                            Rookie
                            • Feb 2012
                            • 21

                            #28
                            Re: Online will make or break this game for me

                            Im glad you had fun! My league is for guys who enjoy a good online experience, but u are right offline is #1 but just don't ignore the online guys, which they don't. I personally spend more time online. Everyone has thier personal preference. I think we can all agree this game kicks *** regardless!!
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                            • MasonTK
                              Rookie
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 215

                              #29
                              Re: Online will make or break this game for me

                              Originally posted by BaseballJunkiesCEO
                              I respect every thing you say , but most guys over 25 want a simulation with other adults. The single player franchise is awesome already, but guys want online franchises. We can beat up on the CPU all year and rip them off with trades. But online franchises you have the human element that makes it really fun. I think all sports game should focus more on the online because most adults with familys dont have time to play 162 games vs CPU. Us family guys want to hop online and give another user the business with our own custom teams and rosters. In my league its important to be a great GM and to have skills on the sticks. Thats just my opinion. When I was 15 I had time to play 162 games, but now I want leagues wit users. I compare it to fantasy baseball, only fun with your buddies
                              I agree that online modes can be a blast, but I was simply saying that I can't imagine how it can be a make/break type deal. To each his own--I was just stating that this game will do fine without an online presence. And to clarify, I can't imagine ANYONE playing 162 game seasons. One game per scheduled week and I'm still lucky to get through a couple seasons. I would love to jump online and play a great game every day. But, unfortunately, there are too many idiots online....4/5 are certified morons.

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                              • MasonTK
                                Rookie
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 215

                                #30
                                Re: Online will make or break this game for me

                                Oh, one thing I will say...if they ever manage a smooth 9v9, then I'm on board. I highly doubt you'd ever find that many guys with patience, but connecting on a huge hit to help the other 8 guys on your team when you only get maybe 4 ABs would be a sensational feeling. That's what makes playing the sport great to begin with. Its the most individual team sport, and the most team-based team sport in the world, all at the same time. That and I want to turn an inning ending DP with someone.

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