2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

[37]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Anyone have an idea of a good defensive catcher who will hit anywhere in the .240-.260 range with a little pop? (around 10 HR's is fine) and a third basemen with pop and a decent average.

I'm looking to upgrade my Cubs franchise because Ian Stewart (.207 BA, 1 HR) and Soto (.197 BA 3 HR's) aren't producing and I'm in June.

I'm willing to part with Stewart, Soto, Soriano, SP Travis Wood, RP Rafael Dolis, Ryan Dempster, RP Casey Coleman, RP Jeff Samardzija, and Randy Wells.

For the most part few a established veterns and guys like Wood, Dolis, Coleman, and Samadzija are 27 and under with a B or C potential rating. If a guy is more of a high quality player or MLB-ready prospect I would be willing to part with younger A or B potential prospects for the right price.

For your catching issue, im thinkin Jeff Mathis (not sure what team he's on this year tho)...a C or D prospect would be all it takes to land him....not sure he'll hit 10 hr's a year but he def fits your defensive criteria....he's is not an every day player either so u'd havta spot-start him...for 3b, how about Edwin Encarnacion? he has pop and hits for a decent avg. Two C prospects would get the job done

Edit: if u want to go the prospect route, i'd go with Austin Romine from the Yankees...highly touted defensive catcher....he's worth 2 B prospects

[sharebear420]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Made a fantasy draft team so don't hate lol my lineup is as follows. 1b Ryan Howard. 2b ackley. SS Hanley rameriez. (sorry for spelling)! 3b freeze. C Carlos santana I'm pretty sure he's a catcher but they have him at 1b. LF Gardner. CF bj upton (traded for) and RF Jason heyward. I know it's a stacked lineup but I was able to get this lineup with minimal trades. My pitching staff is as follows. Lincecum (first pick) Dan haren (3rd pick I think) Justin matterson (think that's hit first name) zach britton and berdard as my fifth and I have Jake Westbrook as a backup/long reliever. Chapman and zumya and some other good RP don't remember his name and David roberston from the yanks as my closer.mi only traded for upton an matterson gave up some good prospects for them. For having a really good team my batting an pitching ratings rant that good. Something like 15th and 16th in the league which is bull. My defense is ranked e best outta the 3 sittin at 11th which should actually not be rated as high

[pistolpete]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

I'm the Mets and I'd like to go after Jose Bautista. Is this realistic at all without including Ike Davis (an A, MLB-ready talent).

What if I send them Davis and another A-prospect.

[37]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

I'm the Mets and I'd like to go after Jose Bautista. Is this realistic at all without including Ike Davis (an A, MLB-ready talent).

What if I send them Davis and another A-prospect.

no it's not realistic w/o including Ike...u'd have to include him with 2 A prospects then u'd have to trade the Jays current 1B Lind

[chicubsfan20]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

For your catching issue, im thinkin Jeff Mathis (not sure what team he's on this year tho)...a C or D prospect would be all it takes to land him....not sure he'll hit 10 hr's a year but he def fits your defensive criteria....he's is not an every day player either so u'd havta spot-start him...for 3b, how about Edwin Encarnacion? he has pop and hits for a decent avg. Two C prospects would get the job done

Edit: if u want to go the prospect route, i'd go with Austin Romine from the Yankees...highly touted defensive catcher....he's worth 2 B prospects

I was actually presented with a trade for Edwin Encarnacion, only took giving up Randy Wells and Blake DeWitt so not too bad. I parted with a SP and I had one pitching long relief and another MLB-ready in AAA. Wells was 6-2 with a 4.03 ERA; Blake DeWitt was hitting .250 sitting on my bench and he'd get an occasional pinch hit when I used my first 2 or 3 options already

I'll look into Jeff Mathis, might be all I need. Soto's struggling mightily, and his backup Wellington Castillo is getting about 2 starts a week and he's hitting a .268 clip but he needs time to progress, so a defensive spot-starter would help out tremendously. Maybe I'll ship Soto and a C potential prospect for him.

Thanks for the insight.

[37]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

I was actually presented with a trade for Edwin Encarnacion, only took giving up Randy Wells and Blake DeWitt so not too bad. I parted with a SP and I had one pitching long relief and another MLB-ready in AAA. Wells was 6-2 with a 4.03 ERA; Blake DeWitt was hitting .250 sitting on my bench and he'd get an occasional pinch hit when I used my first 2 or 3 options already

I'll look into Jeff Mathis, might be all I need. Soto's struggling mightily, and his backup Wellington Castillo is getting about 2 starts a week and he's hitting a .268 clip but he needs time to progress, so a defensive spot-starter would help out tremendously. Maybe I'll ship Soto and a C potential prospect for him.

Thanks for the insight.

You welcome...nice trade for Encarnacion...didnt have to give up much to get him either....As for Mathis, it wouldn't take Soto....give up some C catcher in AA

[chicubsfan20]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

You welcome...nice trade for Encarnacion...didnt have to give up much to get him either....As for Mathis, it wouldn't take Soto....give up some C catcher in AA

I ended up giving up a C potential catcher I had in AAA who wasn't going to make the big league team. Steve Clevenger I think it was. And D potential pitcher (just as a filler).

I was able to ship off Soto too and one of the younger C potential relievers I had Marcus Mateo for a upgrade in the bullpen because my two young arms were nothing more then inning eaters how bad they were doing.

On another note: I'm on June 6th. My team is actually doing surprisingly well, through the first 56 games we are only 26-30. We haven't been .500 or above it, I'm on my longest winning streak of the year too of 6. I was 20-30 and falling. At one point I was 17-20 but a 3-10 skid made things start falling apart. I don't expect to finish above .500 but unless some surprising runs make my team a contender I expect to be selling and Soriano and/or Byrd might be going. Matt Szczur was raking AA so he made a mid-May switch to AAA and currently him and Brett Jackson are raking both hitting above .300 in AAA and I want to bring them up if I'm out of it. Anthony Rizzo is doing well hitting .277 with 14 HR's, my current 1B LaHair is hitting .266 with 12 HR's (tied for 4th in NL) I've been tempted to try him in the OF or 3B but he might be trade bait with Soriano or Byrd to bring in another prospect.

My fault for getting a little sidetracked and off topic.

[37]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

I ended up giving up a C potential catcher I had in AAA who wasn't going to make the big league team. Steve Clevenger I think it was. And D potential pitcher (just as a filler).

I was able to ship off Soto too and one of the younger C potential relievers I had Marcus Mateo for a upgrade in the bullpen because my two young arms were nothing more then inning eaters how bad they were doing.

On another note: I'm on June 6th. My team is actually doing surprisingly well, through the first 56 games we are only 26-30. We haven't been .500 or above it, I'm on my longest winning streak of the year too of 6. I was 20-30 and falling. At one point I was 17-20 but a 3-10 skid made things start falling apart. I don't expect to finish above .500 but unless some surprising runs make my team a contender I expect to be selling and Soriano and/or Byrd might be going. Matt Szczur was raking AA so he made a mid-May switch to AAA and currently him and Brett Jackson are raking both hitting above .300 in AAA and I want to bring them up if I'm out of it. Anthony Rizzo is doing well hitting .277 with 14 HR's, my current 1B LaHair is hitting .266 with 12 HR's (tied for 4th in NL) I've been tempted to try him in the OF or 3B but he might be trade bait with Soriano or Byrd to bring in another prospect.

My fault for getting a little sidetracked and off topic.

haha no worries.....i'd try LaHair at another position and see if he can keep it up offensively before i give up on him...i believe he's still relatively young...ride the wave and keep him around....There's no point in unloading Soriano and Byrd since ur still in it unless both are really stinking up the joint..Neither, however will net u a fortune but still u can always replenish your farm system in doing so...Don't be afraid to bring up your young guns and throw them into the fire if they gunna continue to rake(although i'd wait close to the trading deadline)

[chicubsfan20]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

haha no worries.....i'd try LaHair at another position and see if he can keep it up offensively before i give up on him...i believe he's still relatively young...ride the wave and keep him around....There's no point in unloading Soriano and Byrd since ur still in it unless both are really stinking up the joint..Neither, however will net u a fortune but still u can always replenish your farm system in doing so...Don't be afraid to bring up your young guns and throw them into the fire if they gunna continue to rake(although i'd wait close to the trading deadline)

Yeah I'm kind of at a loss with Soriano and Byrd, by no means are they stinking it up but I don't want to keep my young guns in the minors while they are raking. I'd rather have them come up and show me what my team next year is going to look like. LaHair is in the years of his prime right now so he's still got years left and good offense in head of him.

I was considering unloading my whole outfield: Soriano, Byrd, and keeping DeJesus to have a 4 man outfield rotation with LaHair, and possibly Dempster in hopes to bring up Jackson, Szczur, and Rizzo and just move LaHair to the outfield and get a like atleast one highly touted pitching prospect and the rest for depth in the farm system with trading the vets off. I know I'm still relatively in it, but I would prefer to move on to the youth movement and let them develope and hopefully be in contention for years. I was considering bringing one or two of them up as it is, but with the guys I have at their positions not struggling I would hate to take them out of the line up or bring up a guy and have him sit.

I'll let more of my season play out and see where I am regards of standings wise time come mid-July before I decide who or if I'm gonna trade off my vets.

[37]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Yeah I'm kind of at a loss with Soriano and Byrd, by no means are they stinking it up but I don't want to keep my young guns in the minors while they are raking. I'd rather have them come up and show me what my team next year is going to look like. LaHair is in the years of his prime right now so he's still got years left and good offense in head of him.

I was considering unloading my whole outfield: Soriano, Byrd, and keeping DeJesus to have a 4 man outfield rotation with LaHair, and possibly Dempster in hopes to bring up Jackson, Szczur, and Rizzo and just move LaHair to the outfield and get a like atleast one highly touted pitching prospect and the rest for depth in the farm system with trading the vets off. I know I'm still relatively in it, but I would prefer to move on to the youth movement and let them develope and hopefully be in contention for years. I was considering bringing one or two of them up as it is, but with the guys I have at their positions not struggling I would hate to take them out of the line up or bring up a guy and have him sit.

I'll let more of my season play out and see where I am regards of standings wise time come mid-July before I decide who or if I'm gonna trade off my vets.

yeah it's pretty obvious ur stuck in a tough situation....don't wanna fix what aint broken...however, i dont agree with ur rebuilding attitude....if ur relatively in it, u shudd prolly look to add pieces to get u over the top instead of subtracting....i wanna play the young guys as much as u do but with Soriano and Byrd being productive, u gotta bite the bullet with them until ur mathematically outta it

[sink4ever]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

So once the OSFM rosters are finished, I'll start up my franchises. I'm planning on playing with Seattle and Pittsburgh in one of them. I've been doing some test runs with Seattle to test out different scenarios. I have a list of four position players that I'm interested in, and I'd love to hear anyone's opinions on possible trades. I don't worry too much about realism, but I am quite concerned with fairness.

Looking to acquire:
OF Chris Young - Diamondbacks
1B/OF Brandon Belt - Giants
3B Ian Stewart - Cubs
IF/OF Eric Young Jr. - Rockies

Actively looking to trade:
RF Ichiro Suzuki
3B Chone Figgins
SP Kevin Millwood (assuming he's on the roster)

Willing to trade:
C Miguel Olivo
LF Casper Wells
LF Mike Carp
Either 3B Kyle Seager or Alex Liddi
SS Nick Franklin
SP Jason Vargas
One of SP Danny Hultzen, Taijuan Walker, or James Paxton
Most of bullpen

Ian Stewart shouldn't be too difficult to acquire, and I may try to get Jeff Samardzija as well. With Chris Young and Brandon Belt, I'm thinking of waiting until July or so to see where their teams are. If they're rebuilding I may try to pull off a "three team trade" and ship out Ichiro and Figgins for prospects to deal to Arizona or SF.

Lastly, I would like to keep several speedy/pesky hitters in the lineup. Other than Eric Young Jr, does anyone have any suggestions? I would like to replace Brendan Ryan at SS at some point. I also have room for a 4th outfielder to grab a bunch of at-bats. When Montero catches I'll have Belt at 1B or DH.

Thanks!

[CKW11]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

So once the OSFM rosters are finished, I'll start up my franchises. I'm planning on playing with Seattle and Pittsburgh in one of them. I've been doing some test runs with Seattle to test out different scenarios. I have a list of four position players that I'm interested in, and I'd love to hear anyone's opinions on possible trades. I don't worry too much about realism, but I am quite concerned with fairness.

Looking to acquire:
OF Chris Young - Diamondbacks
1B/OF Brandon Belt - Giants
3B Ian Stewart - Cubs
IF/OF Eric Young Jr. - Rockies

Actively looking to trade:
RF Ichiro Suzuki
3B Chone Figgins
SP Kevin Millwood (assuming he's on the roster)

Willing to trade:
C Miguel Olivo
LF Casper Wells
LF Mike Carp
Either 3B Kyle Seager or Alex Liddi
SS Nick Franklin
SP Jason Vargas
One of SP Danny Hultzen, Taijuan Walker, or James Paxton
Most of bullpen

Ian Stewart shouldn't be too difficult to acquire, and I may try to get Jeff Samardzija as well. With Chris Young and Brandon Belt, I'm thinking of waiting until July or so to see where their teams are. If they're rebuilding I may try to pull off a "three team trade" and ship out Ichiro and Figgins for prospects to deal to Arizona or SF.

Lastly, I would like to keep several speedy/pesky hitters in the lineup. Other than Eric Young Jr, does anyone have any suggestions? I would like to replace Brendan Ryan at SS at some point. I also have room for a 4th outfielder to grab a bunch of at-bats. When Montero catches I'll have Belt at 1B or DH.

Thanks!

Chris Young is kinda difficult to get, at least he was for me. I tried to bring him to the Braves but all they would take for him was Jurrjens AND Hanson. So I went to plan B, which is a trade I posted in this discussion a few pages back. Sent Uggla to Detroit for prospects, then shipped those prospects to Tampa for BJ Upton.

If you compare Young to Upton they are very similar players. Upton will hit for a higher average, both are capable of stealing you 30+ bags and both will hit 20+ HR's. Young has the potential to hit more HR's and has a slight edge defensively, but compared head to head they are very similar, so if you cant get Young, take a look at Upton.

[sink4ever]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Chris Young is kinda difficult to get, at least he was for me. I tried to bring him to the Braves but all they would take for him was Jurrjens AND Hanson. So I went to plan B, which is a trade I posted in this discussion a few pages back. Sent Uggla to Detroit for prospects, then shipped those prospects to Tampa for BJ Upton.

If you compare Young to Upton they are very similar players. Upton will hit for a higher average, both are capable of stealing you 30+ bags and both will hit 20+ HR's. Young has the potential to hit more HR's and has a slight edge defensively, but compared head to head they are very similar, so if you cant get Young, take a look at Upton.

Thanks man. I was thinking about getting BJ and then sending him plus someone to ARZ for Young, but I'm not positive they'll go for it. Maybe just sticking with BJ is a better plan.

[37]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

So once the OSFM rosters are finished, I'll start up my franchises. I'm planning on playing with Seattle and Pittsburgh in one of them. I've been doing some test runs with Seattle to test out different scenarios. I have a list of four position players that I'm interested in, and I'd love to hear anyone's opinions on possible trades. I don't worry too much about realism, but I am quite concerned with fairness.

Looking to acquire:
OF Chris Young - Diamondbacks
1B/OF Brandon Belt - Giants
3B Ian Stewart - Cubs
IF/OF Eric Young Jr. - Rockies

Actively looking to trade:
RF Ichiro Suzuki
3B Chone Figgins
SP Kevin Millwood (assuming he's on the roster)

Willing to trade:
C Miguel Olivo
LF Casper Wells
LF Mike Carp
Either 3B Kyle Seager or Alex Liddi
SS Nick Franklin
SP Jason Vargas
One of SP Danny Hultzen, Taijuan Walker, or James Paxton
Most of bullpen

Ian Stewart shouldn't be too difficult to acquire, and I may try to get Jeff Samardzija as well. With Chris Young and Brandon Belt, I'm thinking of waiting until July or so to see where their teams are. If they're rebuilding I may try to pull off a "three team trade" and ship out Ichiro and Figgins for prospects to deal to Arizona or SF.

Lastly, I would like to keep several speedy/pesky hitters in the lineup. Other than Eric Young Jr, does anyone have any suggestions? I would like to replace Brendan Ryan at SS at some point. I also have room for a 4th outfielder to grab a bunch of at-bats. When Montero catches I'll have Belt at 1B or DH.

Thanks!

glad to see that there's another Chris Young fan in the house!....Would probably take 3 B prospects to obtain him....agreed, it wouldnt take much to acquire Stewart....2 C prospects would be sufficient....For Belt, i'd probably give up 2 B and a C prospect..If either SF or Arizona are rebuilding, there's NO way they would take either Ichiro or Figgins so u'd have to package a few prospects to obtain either CY or Belt......As for your SS inquiry, how about Jason Bartlett from the Padres?...above-average hitting with solid fielding...it'd be certainly fair to trade for him if the Padres are outta it....As for your spare outfielder inquiry, how about Ryan Sweeney from the Red Sox? pretty good fielding and can hit righty's consistently..As for Montero, i'd probably make him my full-time DH and go get yourself a servicable catcher

[sink4ever]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

glad to see that there's another Chris Young fan in the house!....Would probably take 3 B prospects to obtain him....agreed, it wouldnt take much to acquire Stewart....2 C prospects would be sufficient....For Belt, i'd probably give up 2 B and a C prospect..If either SF or Arizona are rebuilding, there's NO way they would take either Ichiro or Figgins so u'd have to package a few prospects to obtain either CY or Belt......As for your SS inquiry, how about Jason Bartlett from the Padres?...above-average hitting with solid fielding...it'd be certainly fair to trade for him if the Padres are outta it....As for your spare outfielder inquiry, how about Ryan Sweeney from the Red Sox? pretty good fielding and can hit righty's consistently..As for Montero, i'd probably make him my full-time DH and go get yourself a servicable catcher

Thanks man. I am somewhat hoping to flip Ichiro and Figgins for trade bait to use on my two main targets (Belt and Young). As for Bartlett, I had a franchise with SD last year and wasn't a huge fan of him. Maybe I'll play a year with Ryan and see if Franklin is ready in '13. Sweeney is an interesting suggestion, I'll look him up when I get home later. Ideally I think I'd like someone I could put in the leadoff spot when they play.