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[misterkrabz]

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I am thoroughly disgusted at this point with the hitting in this game.I want to love this game because it is so great in many areas but holy crap the hitting is beyond frustrating. I have been playing this series for 5 yrs now. I play on veteran with the red sox. I have upped my timing all the way up, contact up 1, cpu pitching down almost all the way, lowered the pitch speed all the way. Still horrible. Oh I am getting hits, about 8-10 /game. A walk or two /game as well. I have a good batters eye, striking out around 7-8 times /game. Strike to ball ratio is around 60/40%.I am thumping the ball hard, line drives, a ton of them, usually right at somebody. I just finished up the 5th game today with Boston and no HR's at all even though I am wacking the hell out of the ball. I don't know what else to do but it shouldnt be this freaking hard to score runs.In those 5 games I have scored a total of 1 run in each game. Any help would be appreciated.I have tried everything.I am patient at the plate taking alot of pitches.I am hitting the ball fine, but not a homer in 5 games , come on. Ok Im done with the rant.

My experience is nearly identical. I'm 1-8 in spring training (with the Mariners) and I'm just not scoring runs...my era is above 5.00 and my team batting average is below .200...I chalked some of it to just being the Mariners but there are situations where my timing it "perfect" my contact is "wheelhouse" and my cursor is right on the ball location and I hit a hard grounder right at someone. It's had me feeling a little cheated at times.

It seems like I get cheated more than I catch a break...the game could really even out some of that if it did a better job surrendering cheap hits. I never really see a jam shot soft liner float over the head of an infielder ...that never seems to happen for me and if you go to a game you hardley watch a game where it doesn't happen at least once. It also seems like it's more difficult to beat out an infield grounder this year. For all the talk of the ball physics being a "game changer" i honestly don't see it...after about 15 games, the hit variety really isn't all that different from past years IMO.

[mondoguitar]

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My experience is nearly identical. I'm 1-8 in spring training (with the Mariners) and I'm just not scoring runs...my era is above 5.00 and my team batting average is below .200...I chalked some of it to just being the Mariners but there are situations where my timing it "perfect" my contact is "wheelhouse" and my cursor is right on the ball location and I hit a hard grounder right at someone. It's had me feeling a little cheated at times.

Well hitting the ball hard right at someone is part of real baseball. But when it happens almost EVERY SINGLE TIME you make solid contact, it should be fixed. Again, I can only speak for online though.

[HustlinOwl]

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It's very confusing to me that on this site the devs are saying hitting is reflective of real life, but then on their official game site, they are saying the following:



Maybe I'm confusing online with offline (people aren't stating which mode in this thread) but there is no way online hitting is reflective of real baseball right now. I'm not trying to be rude, but I just don't understand the differing comments by the same person. Is it the hardest thing to do in sports or is it in need of being fixed as indicated above?

To be fair this quote was posted in the ONLINE section... so if only the online hitting is affected, he should've made that clear in this thread as well. As I've said, I haven't played offline modes yet, so if people in this thread are talking purely offline, I can't comment on that. If we're talking online opinions, I have more than enough games to give a fair assessment IMO.

When making posts regarding the hitting difficulty of this game, they really need to be clear about which mode they are talking about because online is a different animal where there is latency that needs to be taken into consideration as well.

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then move to rookie for play now plus, using the above settings and not having any issues hitting the ball.

[mondoguitar]

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then move to rookie for play now plus, using the above settings and not having any issues hitting the ball.

Nobody plays rookie level online and they shouldn't have to. I set hitting to veteran (as recommended) and I still have people demanding HoF/Legend batting, then I look at their average and they're hitting .150.

The problem is simple, when you have perfect timing and perfect swing location, you should make consistent hard contact (on any level) not popping the ball up. All upgrading the difficulty should do is decrease your batter's eye. What is the purpose of swing analysis if it doesn't help you?

Even on rookie level, the timing is off. You know how it feels to see a hanging curve coming in, eyes light up, you're right on the ball, and then you pop it up every single time? That's what's happening right now online on ALL levels. I've played them all.

[HustlinOwl]

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Nobody plays rookie level online and they shouldn't have to. I set hitting to veteran (as recommended) and I still have people demanding HoF/Legend batting, then I look at their average and they're hitting .150.

The problem is simple, when you have perfect timing and perfect swing location, you should make consistent hard contact (on any level) not popping the ball up. All upgrading the difficulty should do is decrease your batter's eye. What is the purpose of swing analysis if it doesn't help you?

Even on rookie level, the timing is off. You know how it feels to see a hanging curve coming in, eyes light up, you're right on the ball, and then you pop it up every single time? That's what's happening right now online on ALL levels. I've played them all.

and the person pitching having perfect location and perfect release should be penalized?

[mondoguitar]

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and the person pitching having perfect location and perfect release should be penalized?

Yes... If you're timing your swing and guessing the correct location of the pitch, then of course, it should be a hard hit ball if it's in the strike zone!

I just want to know how you can have PERFECT TIMING and PERFECT LOCATION and be hitting constant pop ups on a consistent basis on all difficulty levels. That's it.

The whole pitcher/batter match up should be a chess match. If the batter guesses the correct location and is right on the ball, he should hit it hard. Just because a pitcher hits a corner like he was planning on doing, doesn't mean it can't be a hard hit ball. If the batter is sitting on that pitch, it should be crushed at least half of the time. How can you disagree with that?

Regardless, Russell_05 has stated a problem with online hitting... is he wrong then? I played 300 games last year, 60+ games this year... I shouldn't have to wait for rookie opponents to hit the ball. I'm not a rookie. I'm batting .150 on veteran level, which is where I should be at minimum. Veteran is one step above rookie, does .150 sound reasonable at that level? Not to 95% of the people who play the game online. There's thread after thread after thread on the official site reporting timing issues.

We agree to disagree I guess.

[mondoguitar]

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and the person pitching having perfect location and perfect release should be penalized?

You're on the other forums, we should play a game and see how few hits we each get. Sound fair?

[Ranger05]

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You gotta just keep working w/ the sliders. Then one day, BAM, you'll get it just right! I was having the same problem and bumped the hitting down from All-Star to Veteran but that didn't work. Although it did increase HR it also increased basehits to an unrealistic level. I went from getting 8-9 hits a game to 14-15. So I bumped back up to All-Star and bumped my power and contact slider up one. I'll try it tonight and see how it goes.

My guess is there was complaints last year that the game was HR crazy and therefore they attempted to correct it this year. Last year I was having the exact opposite problem. I was half way thru a season and was having to adjust my sliders to keep the ball in the park. I was averaging like 2 HR's a game.

Oh, and if your not on timing hitting that's where you need to be. I can't see how anyone at all enjoys analog hitting. Way to hard, way to frustrating, and simply not fun IMO.

[HustlinOwl]

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I'll leave it at that, I like the way the game plays and glad to see not every perfect swing is crushed nor is every late or early swing hit into foul play. As Russell stated

Perfect timing and perfect location doesn't guarantee you a base hit. There are multiple factors involved for instance where is the perfect contact and timing. The ball is going to react differently if you hit it perfectly high or you hit it perfectly low. You must also look at the Pitchers H/9, K/9, BB/9, and HR/9 ratings they play a factor in hitting. Then you must look at the players contact and power attributes. A player with a 90 contact hitting the ball perfectly is different than a player with a 65 contact rating.

Hitting online will always have different timing than offline it's the nature of the beast. It will never be like offline there is a timing adjustment and most people have adjusted. As the median batting avg. and ERA have both been raised across the board the past 4 days.

[Bear]

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I am thoroughly disgusted at this point with the hitting in this game.I want to love this game because it is so great in many areas but holy crap the hitting is beyond frustrating. I have been playing this series for 5 yrs now. I play on veteran with the red sox. I have upped my timing all the way up, contact up 1, cpu pitching down almost all the way, lowered the pitch speed all the way. Still horrible. Oh I am getting hits, about 8-10 /game. A walk or two /game as well. I have a good batters eye, striking out around 7-8 times /game. Strike to ball ratio is around 60/40%.I am thumping the ball hard, line drives, a ton of them, usually right at somebody. I just finished up the 5th game today with Boston and no HR's at all even though I am wacking the hell out of the ball. I don't know what else to do but it shouldnt be this freaking hard to score runs.In those 5 games I have scored a total of 1 run in each game. Any help would be appreciated.I have tried everything.I am patient at the plate taking alot of pitches.I am hitting the ball fine, but not a homer in 5 games , come on. Ok Im done with the rant.

I feel your pain, buddy. I went through this last year, and it left me frustrated and hampered my ability to enjoy the game. What's worked nicely for me this year is switching to the timing-only option. I do better when I'm only focusing on the timing instead of timing and location. Also, try not to manipulate the left stick when using the timing option, as it still seems to move your contact zone if you do, which defeats the purpose.
So far, I'm pleased with the results. I'm putting up realistic numbers. While I don't always get a lot of hits, I feel with every AB that I have a chance to be successful, to at least hit he ball hard somewhere, which keeps it satisfying. If, on the other hand, I'm consitently striking out and hitting weak grounders, well, that just isn't any fun at all.
Good luck.

[mondoguitar]

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I'll leave it at that, I like the way the game plays and glad to see not every perfect swing is crushed nor is every late or early swing hit into foul play. As Russell stated

Well, there's a HUGE gap between every perfect swing being crushed and almost NO perfect swing being crushed. There's a large grey area in there. I've faced Strasburg online and all the opponent does is throw fastballs down the middle and because of the timing you cannot hit it. You sit there for 9 innings swinging early, swinging late, getting "perfect" swings and you end up with 1 hit. I don't care what the pitcher's ratings are... a mistake is a mistake and a fastball down the middle is a mistake that should be punished.

I'll leave it at that too, hitting online is not reflective of how accurate your swing is at all. Right now hitting online is a pure fluke most times.

This thread is clearly 99% offline folks, so I'll leave my points at that.

[HustlinOwl]

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Well, there's a HUGE gap between every perfect swing being crushed and almost NO perfect swing being crushed. There's a large grey area in there. I've faced Strasburg online and all the opponent does is throw fastballs down the middle and because of the timing you cannot hit it. You sit there for 9 innings swinging early, swinging late, getting "perfect" swings and you end up with 1 hit. I don't care what the pitcher's ratings are... a mistake is a mistake and a fastball down the middle is a mistake that should be punished.

I'll leave it at that too, hitting online is not reflective of how accurate your swing is at all. Right now hitting online is a pure fluke most times.

This thread is clearly 99% offline folks, so I'll leave my points at that.

so you are swinging at every first pitch and getting outs, thus increasing his confidence and what contact method are you using power, regular or contact? I say take some pitchers lower his fatigue, maybe foul some balls off work is confidence lower

[mondoguitar]

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so you are swinging at every first pitch and getting outs, thus increasing his confidence and what contact method are you using power, regular or contact? I say take some pitchers lower his fatigue, maybe foul some balls off work is confidence lower

Now you're just speculating as to how I play the game. I usually take 2 strikes and lately I've only been using the contact swing, so I'm VERY good at fouling the ball off. haha, that's basically all you can do right now. Anyways, you're happy with the game... enjoy

EDIT: You're 34-10 and only batting .211. My point is made. On what planet is .211 a good batting average? 11pts over the Mendoza Line? Yet you have a 78% win percentage. If you're winning 8/10 games batting .211, doesn't that make my point?

[HustlinOwl]

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Now you're just speculating as to how I play the game. I usually take 2 strikes and lately I've only been using the contact swing, so I'm VERY good at fouling the ball off. haha, that's basically all you can do right now. Anyways, you're happy with the game... enjoy

EDIT: You're 34-10 and only batting .211. My point is made.

shhhhh, Im a center swinger

[HustlinOwl]

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lol @ that record, trust me Im not that good I PLAY FOR FUN. Most of those wins are due to guys quitting after several balks (trying to quick pitch me) or simply losing connection. Record has nothing to do with my Batting average