Extremely Low BABIP

[Sinner618]

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I just finished a series in my Franschise using the exact same tips as I posted on page 1...
Second game of the series, had a 2 run homer with berkman in 1st inning, had another 3 run homer with berkman later, a freese homer, 2 triples, 5 doubles, batted around in one inning, with a total of 20 hits, drawing 8 walks, and won 13-3...
The next game, I only got 7 hits, but drew 6 walks, loaded the bases twice, but lost 3-0...

You say you're guessing fastball, hitting fastball, its going straight to someone... you hit a fastball for an out once, his confidence in that pitch goes up... next time you hit fastball it goes straight towards someone, the confidence goes up more... his overall confidence goes up... he's starting to pitch a gem on you... and he knows even if he hangs a fastball down the middle its gonna land in a glove

Don't guess fastball everytime... don't guess everytime period... take an inning or two without guessing, don't swing at everything, when you get a real nice looking pitch, take a cut, whether it be fastball, changeup, slider, whatever... make him throw balls, work the count deeper, when you start knocking down the confidence of one pitch to about a quarter of a bar of confidence, guess that low confidence pitch every now and then, even if its not fastball, cause if he throws it, you're more likely to put that ball past someone and not just straight in their glove... you don't need to guess pitch everytime to try to get the bonus and go for the homer all the time, there's a certain time to be trying that and that's when you're #3 or 4 guys up to plate and you got you're 1 and 2 guys on by slapping the low confidence pitches down the line or into the gap...

[Qrusher14242]

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yeah its frustrating when you get good contact and good timing and can't produce any runs. I hate getting wheelhouse and great contact and bouncing it to 2nd. Something just seems different this year. I've shelved for the time being, too frustrating.

[Devastant1971]

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Raising solid hits is counter productive. With it higher all you're doing is making the ball go faster not making it hit better. Timing only has been changed some this year. I didn't notice this until it was pointed out by someone in the TNKGM-Royale slider thread. On timing batting, the "batter's eye" is all over the place. It doesn't matter if you have wheelhouse ball placement an perfect on your timing, if the pci isnt on the ball, the hit will suck. There are 2 fixes for this. Either raise Human Contact to 6 or even 7 out of 10, or go zone hitting with pci off.

[MLB Bob]

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I may be off line here but the one thing I notice and see is people saying "I get the same result every time". since one person is controlling every batter in a line up, Im guessing you pretty much approach every pitcher pretty similar as well and probably react to pitches at the same speed so unless the pitcher varys his speeds your contact and swing is at the same speed as every other batter causing you to see the same result over and over again. If you are using timing that would only be amplified in my opinion. if you never get ground balls its because you are always swinging just early and or below the pitch. Ive simmed, watched, recorded played and tested and I get a huge variance in flyballs, ground balls, singles doubles hits all over the field and have never seen these problems...EXCEPT when I noticed I just had one approach at the plate for all my batters.

The game is quit capable of producing all these desired stats, hits, types of hits, locations...everything that peopel strive for...honestly. It is possible

[Bobhead]

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Raising solid hits is counter productive. With it higher all you're doing is making the ball go faster not making it hit better.

Yeah this is totally incorrect.

Anyway, how many pitches are you seeing per at-bat? Per game? Just because a pitch is in a good place to hit doesn't mean it was a good pitch to hit. If you are showing patterns of being aggressive (ie: short at-bats), the CPU is more apt to throw max effort pitches that are generally quite difficult to hit, regardless of how well you hit them.

Try just drawing out your at-bats, not just until you get a pitch that looks nice, but literally for an arbitrary amount of time. Even if you strikeout looking a few times, the more pitches you make the opponent throw, the more likely those pitches will be hittable.

[Heroesandvillains]

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I just finished a series in my Franschise using the exact same tips as I posted on page 1...
Second game of the series, had a 2 run homer with berkman in 1st inning, had another 3 run homer with berkman later, a freese homer, 2 triples, 5 doubles, batted around in one inning, with a total of 20 hits, drawing 8 walks, and won 13-3...
The next game, I only got 7 hits, but drew 6 walks, loaded the bases twice, but lost 3-0...

You say you're guessing fastball, hitting fastball, its going straight to someone... you hit a fastball for an out once, his confidence in that pitch goes up... next time you hit fastball it goes straight towards someone, the confidence goes up more... his overall confidence goes up... he's starting to pitch a gem on you... and he knows even if he hangs a fastball down the middle its gonna land in a glove

Don't guess fastball everytime... don't guess everytime period... take an inning or two without guessing, don't swing at everything, when you get a real nice looking pitch, take a cut, whether it be fastball, changeup, slider, whatever... make him throw balls, work the count deeper, when you start knocking down the confidence of one pitch to about a quarter of a bar of confidence, guess that low confidence pitch every now and then, even if its not fastball, cause if he throws it, you're more likely to put that ball past someone and not just straight in their glove... you don't need to guess pitch everytime to try to get the bonus and go for the homer all the time, there's a certain time to be trying that and that's when you're #3 or 4 guys up to plate and you got you're 1 and 2 guys on by slapping the low confidence pitches down the line or into the gap...

Do you draw walks like this on a regular basis?

I'll take some advice if you have any. By chance, are you hitting on All-Star?

[Sinner618]

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Do you draw walks like this on a regular basis?

I'll take some advice if you have any. By chance, are you hitting on All-Star?

I do not draw quite that many walks normally... the 13 run game, the pitchers started getting very nervous and pitching away from anything I could hit, they nibbled corners, I had a few strikeouts looking on a couple bad calls by the ump and some that coulda gone either way, but lotsa times I could contact swing some of the too close to call ones foul, worked some full counts, and waited for either that low confidence pitch to be hung, or one to be well outside and trot to first... but typically I get maybe 2 or 3 walks a game... if I got guys on, my weakness is I see breaking ball but fail to see the "future spot" of where it will cross the plate... I see it high, I know its gonna break and come down lower, and in my mind I'm. Trying to put the pci on it and track down with it, when I should be putting it where its gonna be... these tend to be low and I dribble them back to the mound (but I'm workin on that) so most of the "shoulda been a walk" pitch end up as an easy toss to first or a double play...

I am hitting with veteren right now, but I think I may go to all-star when I start my new franchise after the OSFM rosters come out... and all that advice from me you're looking for from me I've got on the first page of this thread.. its really the only advice I've got, which is play to your strengths and the pitchers weakness by paying very close attention to each pitch's confidence bar in the pitchers arsenal.. if his fastball is maxed out with confidence, and you see a fastball coming and its goin low or out of the zone, don't even almost swing, move the fingers away from all buttons and let it go... the more balls he throws with that drains that pitch of confidence, each hit off a pitch drains that pitches confidence, and he may go with another pitch which may have lower confidence... the pitchers actual overall self confidence and each individual pitch's confidence go a long way in determining if that wheelhous fastball gets lined directly to a glove, finds a gap, or lands on the street outside the stadium... but don't just use my advice, try it and see if its for you and a style of playing you like, try it the way I have it detailed on the first page of the thread, I think I explained it also somehwhere on the "all hitting tips" thread... but to each his own, there's lots of tips and advice spread across this board, try several other peoples tips and strategies and see if they might fit you too...

[AUTiger1]

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I have trouble drawing walks but that's just because I can't keep myself but swing at those high fastballs. If I could ever learn to lay off them pitches then I could get walks. At least I'm finally getting some balls because I finally learned to lay off those low balls for the most part.

[Heroesandvillains]

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Sinner,

You weren't kidding! That's a great write-up on page one.

I actually play very similarly to this, but in NO WAY could I have articulated it like you were able to. I learned a few things by reading your thoughts as well.

Thanks!

Man, I skipped that post because of the lack of paragraphs. BAD HEROES!

[Bobhead]

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Sinner,
Man, I skipped that post because of the lack of paragraphs. BAD HEROES!

So did I, it's pretty difficult to read and I just was like "ehh too many lines" but I just read the first half or so, and it is actually a pretty good writeup.

[jct32]

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I have always used guess pitch and still am. I am using Amour and Swords veteran sliders with guess pitch and I'm doing just fine in my franchise and even better in my RTTS.

If that's the route you want to go then don't give up but in the end it's your game. I am having blast and can't wait to play the game each time.

Good luck in your quest.

[Sinner618]

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So did I, it's pretty difficult to read and I just was like "ehh too many lines" but I just read the first half or so, and it is actually a pretty good writeup.

Oooooo, sorry about the giant paragraphs. I'm posting on here on my phone; guess I'm used to the way I text and end thoughts with a series of "....." lol

Anyway, thanks for the feedback on the pitch confidence tips, and just to re-affirm those points, here's what just happened on my latest games right before this post...

Tyler Green, been on my AAA squad all year, my SS was need a day off so I call Green up mainly for his glove, not his bat. He goes 4 for 5 with 2 rbi batting 7th...

I think its just a fluke, go to the next game, my 2B needs a rest, so I figure why not Green again? As my #8 batter,groundout against Wandy Rodriguez first at-bat, Home Run second AB...

and THEN, the very next pitch, my pitcher, Wainwright goes deep for a double off the wall which missed being a homer by a foot...

All because I spent the first time through the lineup keeping an eye on the confidence meters .. he gave up a 2 hits to the fastball first time through the lineup, its confidence went to about half, and he went to his other pitches... and everytime he showed me fastball again it was outside, which brings the confidence down even more. He musta been confident enough to give a wheelhouse fastball to my 8 hitter, and even after a homer, he musta thought a pitcher could never... but he almost did! Lol

EDIT: Just to add even more unlikelyhood to that game, Rodriguez holds off the fastball on everybody EXCEPT Green! Who just hit his second homer off him in the game...

[rkligman]

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N51 did the same thing as I did. Raised the Hitting sliders to Max for Hits and Contact and then the key I believe was to lower by 2 clicks or so the Fielders Speed and Reaction. I also switched to Zone hitting from Timing but I usually just center swing. That ensures I get solid contact. I'm about 10 games in and love it to death. My BA is .327 with the 19th place Giants. I use everyone in the lineup being Spring Training. Typical games are something around 5 runs for me, 3 for the opponent. My Avg. game is about 10 hits. Oh, and I'm using Rookie.

Is this real? I don't care. It's not like I'm easily getting hits everytime I swing the bat. I only strike out an avg. of 3 times a game. If I continue on this torrid pace then I may bump the fielder speed/reaction up 1 notch to see the effect and maybe take away a couple of hits. But for now, I'm having a blast and it feels pretty realistic not cheap.

[jripper09]

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when i used guess pitch i would think like a hitter use pci on so when you guess wrong you will see it shrink more or less depending on quality of hitter. or it grow when you guess correct. and if you guessed fastball and missed placement and location move youre pci toward the other parts of the strike zone and try to read that curve slider or changeup if you square it up you can still get hits especially against 3 4 and 5 starters. against lincecum and kershaw because of there skill guess wrong and you will have the pci of a pitcher! lol i used to play exscusively with this because i can care less about my stick skills its actually very challenging to figure out pitching patterns and do not guess fastball all the time. early in the count every now and then guess breaking ball get it and do some damage. plus confuse cpu pitcher a bit. to lessen penalty a bit if you use guess pitch exsclusively hit on veteran youll have a blast. when you guess right zone and pitch you will see youre pci lock in on the pitch and as youll see sometimes youll pop it up slow roller wont always get hit. matter of fact i get alot of basehits after i guess wrong if you square it up even with a smaller pci youll have success with this guess pitch. so all you guess pitch bashers lay off! LOL! anyway sorry about long post just giving my 3 cents worth.

[chadomac]

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I played Veteran/Veteran last year and won the World Series - and my team batted over .300. Unlike most of you, I do not seek a simulation... it's more fun for me to be pretty good and have good stats, etc.

But I wanted more of a challenge as far as winning games goes... so I bumped myself up to All-Star/All-Star this year. It's working out fine for pitching... but hitting was just too hard. I was behind on everything - even when I got good pitches to hit - so I knocked the pitch speed down 2 ticks. Still couldn't score runs... I lost 9 out of my first 10 games and never scored more than a run or two at most. Very low BABIP like the original poster was saying.

Now I'm back at Veteran hitting/All-Star pitching... and I've won my first two games pretty easily. Not sure where I'm going to go from here... I need some type of middle ground. I'd rather not mess with sliders but I may have to.